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Wednesday, January 18, 2012

Rox sign Jaime Moyer to Minor League deal

Fun fact: When the Rockies came into existence, Jaime Moyer was in his eighth Major League season.

The Rockies’ search for a veteran for the starting rotation could take them to the ultimate veteran, 49-year-old left-hander Jamie Moyer.

Colorado and Moyer have agreed to a Minor League deal that includes an invitation to Spring Training, the club announced on Wednesday. The agreement is pending a physical.

Moyer underwent Tommy John surgery on his throwing elbow in 2010 and didn’t pitch last season. The lefty worked as an analyst for ESPN in 2011 but stated that he intended to try to pitch again in ‘12.

Moyer went 9-9 with a 4.84 ERA for the Phillies in 2010.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 18, 2012 at 09:14 PM | 128 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   101. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:17 PM (#4040728)
When Jamie Moyer debuted, the Rockies didn't exist. Not the team. The mountains.
   102. Something Other Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:37 PM (#4040739)
Given how much money there is in being even a below average pitcher, I'm a little surprised there aren't a couple more 45 year old knuckleballers still pitching. Odd, that we almost never hear of a guy in his late 30s whose career is winding down having spent the last offseason working on the knuckler.

Btw, I don't think the problem with Tim Wakefield is that he kinda sucks, it's that he kinda sucks for a very good, big market team. I have to think that if he could keep up his performance of the last couple of years, he could do so practically forever for teams like Pittsburgh or Houston as long as he was willing to pitch year to year for a million or two. Heck, the Mets could probably use him, especially if they go ahead and trade Jon Niese. Wakefield's pretty close to what they got last season from Capuano, who signed with LA for 2/10 based on his crappy yet durable year of 80 OPS+ for the Mets.

   103. base ball chick Posted: January 19, 2012 at 07:52 PM (#4040753)
it must be actually tough to throw a good knuckler. either that or it's that most 38 year old pitchers are tired and or want to be with their kids or are tired of their bodies hurting all the time for 7-8 months straight

or too many pitchers think that throwing a knuckleball is not macho
   104.     Hey Gurl Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:15 PM (#4040768)
Doesn't Moyer have like 7 kids or something? No wonder he wants to stay on the road.
   105. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:25 PM (#4040772)
Older here, by plenty.
   106. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:26 PM (#4040774)
Mrs. Ochmonek wasn't Mrs. Seinfeld yet.

Fun fact: She was about to be Mrs. James Dean before life got in the way.
   107. AndrewJ Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:37 PM (#4040779)
i remember watching MTV like ALL the time but couldn't remember what videos were big that year.

When Jamie Moyer debuted, the original five VJs were all still regularly on MTV.
   108. phredbird Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:53 PM (#4040792)
Mrs. Ochmonek wasn't Mrs. Seinfeld yet.

Fun fact: She was about to be Mrs. James Dean before life got in the way.


wow. i checked out her website. never knew that.
   109. AndrewJ Posted: January 19, 2012 at 08:58 PM (#4040797)
I think Liz Sheridan also dated Marlon Brando...
   110. ajnrules Posted: January 19, 2012 at 09:16 PM (#4040803)
At the time the 300 win club was the largest of the three major milestone clubs with 18. If Moyer gets to 300 he would be the 25th. Among the seven that reached 300 wins since then, Don Sutton won his 300th game two days after Moyer's debut. Nolan Ryan had 244 wins, although he hadn't won in over a month. Roger Clemens would win his 28th game later that night. Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, and Randy Johnson were all still in the minors.

At the time there were just 16 players with 3,000 hits. Now there are 28. Of the 12 that reached the plateau since then: George Brett had the most hits with 2,028 after a one-hit game. Dave Winfield went hitless, but he had 1,988 hits. Robin Yount had a 4-hit game that day to bring him to 1,925. Eddie Murray was also hitless and had 1,591 hits. Paul Molitor was about to get off the DL with 1,113 hits. Rickey Henderson went hitless and had 1,092 hits. Wade Boggs was also hurt but had 855 hits. Cal Ripken Jr. had one hit to give him 812. Tony Gwynn went hitless with 639 career hits. Rafael Palmeiro was in AA Pittsfield. Craig Biggio was playing ball at Seton Hall. Derek Jeter was looking forward to his 12th birthday in ten days.

At the time the 500 home run club was even smaller, with only 13 members. Now there are 25. Of the 12 that reached the milestone since then: Mike Schmidt was the closest with 468 home runs. Eddie Murray had 267 home runs. Barry Bonds hit his 4th home run that day. Mark McGwire, Rafael Palmeiro, and Sammy Sosa were all still in the minors. Gary Sheffield had just been picked by the Brewers and was deciding whether or not to sign (he would 10 days later). Frank Thomas was 18 and Ken Griffey Jr. was in the summer before his senior year in high school. Jim Thome was 15 years old. Manny Ramirez had just turned 14. Alex Rodriguez was still only 10.
   111. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: January 20, 2012 at 01:33 AM (#4040934)
When Jamie Moyer debuted, George Bush was Vice President. Then he became President. Then his son became President. Then a guy became President who is only one year older than...Jamie Moyer.
   112. Hysterical & Useless Posted: January 20, 2012 at 02:12 PM (#4041265)
Well I certainly hope that this Moyer kid makes it in the Bigs. I know how tough it is for kids to get jobs today, 'cause my younger son, who was born ~6 weeks after Moyer's debut, is STILL LIVING WITH US.

It would be teh awesome if Moyer could pitch regularly in the Majors after his 50th birthday.
   113. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: January 20, 2012 at 02:25 PM (#4041300)
'cause my younger son, who was born ~6 weeks after Moyer's debut, is STILL LIVING WITH US.

Harder than getting them out of your house is getting them off your cell phone plan.
   114. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 20, 2012 at 02:40 PM (#4041321)
Harder than getting them out of your house is getting them off your cell phone plan.

This could be the most profound statement ever on BBTF.

And so very, very true.
   115. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: January 20, 2012 at 02:55 PM (#4041346)
Sure, I may have a PhD and still be on my parents' cell phone plan, but I make up for it by having only used 3 phones in nine years, none of which have a keyboard or can display a photo.
   116. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 20, 2012 at 03:06 PM (#4041364)
or can display a photo

How is that even possible? An old Motorola RAZR can display a photo, fer Chrissakes.
   117.     Hey Gurl Posted: January 20, 2012 at 03:17 PM (#4041378)
A writeup of Moyer's debut, courtesy of Bill Conlin

Moyer, a slender 170-pounder who looks like he will be a Randy Jones-, Tommy John-style lefthander, took a 7-2 lead into the seventh. Manager Gene Michael came out for the youngster after Schu, Juan Samuel and Mike Schmidt singled with one out. With two runs home and two outs, the Phils cut it to the final 7-5 against reliever Jay Baller on a throwing error by third baseman Davey Lopes on a routine bouncer by Glenn Wilson.

"It was just a tremendous thrill for me to make my first major league start against a pitcher of Steve Carlton's stature," Moyer said. "All through my high school and college career he was the premier lefthander in the game. Not even in my wildest dreams did I ever think I'd pitch against Steve Carlton in the major leagues."
   118. villageidiom Posted: January 20, 2012 at 03:34 PM (#4041394)
The reigning World Champion when he debuted was the Kansas City Royals.
   119.     Hey Gurl Posted: January 20, 2012 at 03:47 PM (#4041412)

The reigning World Champion when he debuted was the Kansas City Royals.


We have a winner.
   120. Hysterical & Useless Posted: January 20, 2012 at 05:43 PM (#4041524)
Oh, jeez, my older one is still on our cell phone plan, and our e-z pass as well, and I'm fine with that. They don't text, and I hardly ever call anyone other than them (and Mrs Useless), so the cost is minimal.

But I hate having to get dressed in order to visit the bathroom at 3 am.
   121. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: January 20, 2012 at 05:51 PM (#4041530)
But I hate having to get dressed in order to visit the bathroom at 3 am.

Having a bathroom in the master bedroom is far more important than you realize when you're 28 and buying a house. :)
   122.     Hey Gurl Posted: January 20, 2012 at 07:58 PM (#4041622)
Ièm not sure which is more annoying: people who brag about not watching TV, or people who brag about not using cellphones. It's a toss-up...

People who brag about not being on Facebook are up there, too.
   123. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: January 20, 2012 at 08:09 PM (#4041630)
I don't watch tv because I'm too cheap to pay for cable but I watch tv on hulu all the time. Does that count?
   124.     Hey Gurl Posted: January 20, 2012 at 08:12 PM (#4041632)
Pretty soon you'll be in the majority

(Probably 1/2 the people I know do that...or something similar.)
   125. Something Other Posted: January 20, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4041641)
it must be actually tough to throw a good knuckler. either that or it's that most 38 year old pitchers are tired and or want to be with their kids or are tired of their bodies hurting all the time for 7-8 months straight

or too many pitchers think that throwing a knuckleball is not macho
It must be very very tough, otherwise there'd have to be at least a few guys who pulled it off. Even the one non-Tim Wakefield knuckleballer currently in the majors was throwing one years ago without quite knowing it. From wikipedia,

Throughout his career, Dickey did not know that his "forkball" pitch was actually a hard knuckleball, but by 2005, Dickey had discovered that the best way to extend his career was to perfect the pitch.[3]


What's impressive about Dickey is that he was able to add a soft knuckler, which makes the hard knuckler that much more devastating.

I'm not sure the sissy factor enters into it. It's probably like cross-dressing in the privacy of your own home. A guy could go out behind the barn and start throwing the knuckler into one of those bounceback pitching things. Nobody would ever have to know.


Doesn't Moyer have like 7 kids or something? No wonder he wants to stay on the road.
I gotta say, too, there have to be at least a few families who encourage grumpy dad to not retire and be home all the time.
   126. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 20, 2012 at 09:22 PM (#4041662)
When I was a teenager, I played catcher on a baseball team with a guy who would occasionally throw a pretty good knuckleball, along with the standard fastball / curve. I think most big-time coaches and players have come to see it as a specialty pitch, but it wasn't always that way.
   127. cardsfanboy Posted: January 20, 2012 at 09:31 PM (#4041670)
I don't watch tv because I'm too cheap to pay for cable but I watch tv on hulu all the time. Does that count?


Yep that is me also. Won't get cable because the cable company soaks you above and beyond the agreed upon amount. You agree for $30 a month, and they somehow end up charging another $15 in made up taxes and interest and bs. And until I see actual proof of satellite working in the rain(you know the time when you most likely want to watch tv) I'm not even considering that as an option(I know after I say that, 100 people will post "I have satellite, and it never goes out" and you are the 100 luckiest people in the world, I've been to bars and seen a gush of wind take out the satellite for 30 seconds, or even worse turn it into a 16bit nintendo pixelation of whatever it is you are watching, I've sold satellite for years, and it's always embarrassing trying to sell someone as they are watching it and it freezes up etc.--and f course, who the heck wants a box for every tv, that is just a silly unneeded expense that they are trying to soak you on. With cable, every tv in the house gets the major channels, and the primary tv gets any special channels.)
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