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Friday, April 13, 2012
Come back, Mickey Herskowitz!
Then came Wednesday night’s Astros/Braves game and the Progressive Fan of the Game feature. Frankly, of all of the stupid features Fox Sports Houston does at baseball games, this is the stupidest. I don’t care what a person sitting in the stands thinks about the game, especially since, as it’s an Astros game, Fox Sports Houston ignores the action on the field for the insipid interview. If I want to hear a fan talk at Minute Maid Park, I’ll go up there and sit next to the fools who still boo Carlos Beltran.
But the Wednesday Night Fan of the Game was a New York Yankees fan. And it wasn’t a Yankees fan who even lives in Houston, it was a Yankees fan from New York and the interview was all about how this guy’s damn AL-only fantasy baseball team and how he was here scouting Astros players so he’d know who to draft next season. And to make it worse, this New York Yankees fan was surrounded by people wearing Atlanta Braves shirts and caps.
I realize that nobody’s attending Astros games. I realize that most of the stadium is empty. But really, is a New York Yankees fan surrounded by Atlanta Braves fans really the best that Fox Sports Houston could do for the fan of the game? I know that real Astros fans were there because they kept punching up shots of people in the stands wearing Astros gear, so at least the camera people knew how to find actual Astros fans, but it just must have been too difficult for Bart Ennis and the broadcast producer.
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Posted: April 13, 2012 at 10:27 AM | 68 comment(s)
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1. Mayor Blomberg Posted: April 13, 2012 at 10:48 AM (#4105551)This can't be true. None of the Astros are worth drafting in a fantasy league.
An example from opening week:
Milo: OH what a terrible play! I can't believe what I just saw. (followed by 5 uncomfortable seconds of dead air while his partner waits for the main play by play guy to clarify what he just saw).
(then finally) Dave Raymond: The Astros runner on first(JD Martinez, I think) took off on a line drive to left field. The outfielder came on and caught it with his weight moving toward the infield and easily doubled off Martinez, who didn't even try to get back (or something like that).
I know lots of people love Milo because he was a decent announcer during the Nixon and Ford adminstrations. But in the last 20 years the best you can say about him is that he should be retiring soon.
And the worst part about all this is a that I am a Rangers fan marooned in the middle of the Astros fan zone and I can't find a single Rangers broadcast because all 100 local radio stations carry the Astros.
Hey buddy, don't swallow the Boston lies about how Don & Jerry are "among the best in the game", even though Don is made from cardboard and Jerry hates everybody who wasn't a no-hit infielder like himself.
The Mets and the Giants have excellent teams. I enjoy the A's too, even if Fosse grates on some people.
Did you even read what I wrote? I hate Don & Jerry. Also, I said "Dodgers."
White Sox broadcasts, on the other hand, are basically my idea of Hell.
"Actually Larry, looks like Reyes might have been safe on that one."
The Red Sox broadcast is growing unlistenable for me. The Nationals broadcasts with Dibble were even worse than the White Sox, without Dibble they're now just garden variety bad. The Diamondbacks broadcast is often overlooked for its badness.
I really dislike Santangelo. Even after a year, he still sounds to me like a guy who's just learning the job. He's hesitant and overly deferential.
Unrelated to the above, but MLB.tv on X-Box Live is wonderful. Given this was the first season on XBL, I was expecting to run into issues, but it's been seamless so far. The picture is wonderful, the transition from home-to-away broadcast or switching games is simple, rewind/fastforward very easy. Haven't even run into any extended periods of pixelated/fuzzy screens, which I usually run into with NHL's/FoxSoccer's online services.
They've actually been dropping sabermetric stuff on us a bit this season. The other day during the game against Verlander they were talking about WAR and show his compared to other top pitchers last season and yesterday when they were discussing shifts Staats was talking about how all the new technology these days is starting to allow teams to really separate pitching from fielding and understand better how much credit to give to each.
It would be nice if someone (hello ESPN!) would try an experiment with a single announcer. Instead they seem to be going the opposite direction and adding more announcers to the booth. I'm trying to think if it's necessary in say football to have color announcers. It's certainly not necessary in baseball.
I was hoping they wouldn't bring that back this year, but during the opener they specifically said that viewers liked it last year so they're doing it again, which made this viewer facepalm.
While he sounded somewhat nervous early last season, Santangelo seems to have settled in as time went on. I find him OK, but I only follow the Nationals sporadically.
I enjoyed the fan of the game interview that the Rangers had on Darvish's debut. Drunk Japanese kid who barely knew English and just kept screaming, delightedly, "I ... LOVE ...YU!"
God yes. Hudler was the worst I've ever heard.
Ron Darling is one, and I'm lucky to watch him do my team's games.
The best thing about Darling is that he once sucked - with the Nationals - and was smart enough to be able to fix it become good.
Whoever introduced sideline reporters should burn in hell.
The Angels duo that replaced them is completely forgettable, which makes them a vast improvement. I actually like Mark Gubicza. Victor Rojas (Cookie Rojas' kid) does play-by-play, and he's... meh. His routine calls are fine, but his homer calls get on my nerves, especially calling homers "jimmy-jacks". Also, I'm convinced his ongoing-attempts to give Kendrys Morales the nickname "The Cuban Missile" is what hurt Morales in the first place.
The sideline reporter used to be actually useful. They could go to the clubhouse or the sidelines during a game and find out about injuries. They would then report it to the broadcast team in the background. Then it just became a thing where the sideline reporter actually spoke on air, and then all hell broke loose with that moron Craig Sager wearing those hideous jackets.
All of the functions that Scully fulfills by himself have been parsed up and doled out to 50 different people now. It's odd.
Well... yes. I would never take myself so seriously as to call it "scouting", but there are a lot of things you can see at a game that you don't get on a broadcast. Maybe those things have dubious fantasy value, but I wouldn't think the basic statement would be all that controversial.
The quality of a broadcast often comes down to chemistry. Darling is great on SNY but pretty difficult to stomach on TBS.
An underdiagnosed problem is that many broadcast teams have too much chemistry, so to speak. For example, the Phillies have a color guy named Chris Wheeler who is awful. He speaks entirely in cliche, never says anything remotely insightful or even explanatory, openly roots for the Phillies, calls players by their first names all the time, constantly tells awful "jokes" and pointless stories about talking to the Phillies players in airports, etc. But the PBP guy and the other color guy seem to like Wheeler so they often encourage him to continue or otherwise egg him on. I don't expect them to say, "shut up and stop wasting everyone's time," obviously, but if these guys didn't feel like they were all buddies I think they would just ignore him and he would fade into the background.
Ugh. That's part of what I was referring to in [10]. While that was going on, a friend of mine wondered on Facebook just how much Jim Knox (sideline reporter) was regretting his career choice right about then.
I guess it doesn't bother me much for hall of famers, guys who have earned nicknames and such. Hearing announcers called Halladay "Doc" doesn't bug me, but when Joe Crede comes to the plate and the announcer says "Here's Joey now." I mean #### off.
Rex Hudler used to call David Eckstein "X Factor." It was beyond irritating.
I can't really stand Berman anymore, but I was reading a blurb yesterday describing how Ray Knight remains disgruntled at never hearing from the Mets and I immediately thought "Ray (I Dub Thee) Knight."
No way that's not funny.
No doubt. I think similar sentiments are behind the nose-in-the-spreadsheet/mom's-basement anti-stat arguments. Bill Plashke, say, sees himself as an expert with access to special knowledge tha only he can decipher and relate to the masses. Then a bunch of people come along and say that most what Plashke is saying is irrelevant, much of the remainder is wrong, and, in fact, Juan Pierre is not an elite player even though Ned Colletti sauntered away from the contract signing with a rueful gleam in his eye, or whatever. Then Plashke has a sad.
Watching the Detroit game right now, and I agree that the Tigers have a good booth: unobtrusive, professional, and not opposed to stretches of silence.
Yes. Yes. Yes. Yes.
You see this everywhere. "As first reported by US." Nobody cares who first reported it. Get over yourself.
Dear Fox Sports Houston: Your Astros broadcast suck. That is, the Astros, your Astros, the ones you do the TV coverage of ... they are broadcasting some serious suck right now.
That is to say, like all things in our media ecology, it is the business of broadcasting broadcasting that Fox Sports Houston is in.
Yeah. If you read "broadcast" as a verb, and "suck" as a noun, it works. And is potentially accurate.
The Bill James ones are better.... like Scott "Would Your Sister" Leius.
That's odd, because I was living in Indy until two years ago, and on Direct TV, Comcast Sports Chicago was the local sports channel. The only games blackouted were Bulls because of the Pacers.
Rays and Astros have by far the worst picture quality of any broadcasts. Terrible white balancing (I'm sure that has something to do with domes) and awful HD signal.
On the opposite side of the spectrum, the Twins picture is a true thing of beauty.
Whoever introduced sideline reporters should burn in hell.
I am down. Mark me down! The guy they had before Burkhardt was even worse. I even named one of my fantasy teams ChrisCotterMustDie.
Generally, I don't get the love SNY receives around here. As someone pointed out above, they do more than their share of nonsense. Do they still drag poor Kiner out of his crypt to ramble on for an inning or so? Not only Burkhardt, but get rid of Cohen too. It's a shame, he was very good as the #2 guy to Murphy on the radio. They were a pleasure to listen to, even as a Yankee fan. But he's become more and more obnoxious ever since Murphy retired.
I've had little exposure to Hudler before this season. But after six-plus games I'm already tired of him. His only endearing quality is that he's not afraid to admit he's pretty stupid.
Interestingly, the Japanese language doesn't have a native word for "love".
I'm a cable guy, no Comcast Sports here in Carmel via BrightHouse (TWC), yet no Cubs or Sox. Most of the Reds games though are carried on FS-Indiana (same network which carries Pacers). One of the AM stations here carried Cubs games on the radio a couple years ago, but that lasted all of one season.
The Brewers trading Daron Sutton for Brian Anderson was a massive upgrade. Sutton is a Reds broadcaster waiting to happen, while Anderson is exactly what you said, cromulent. I might be the only person who'd rather listen to a Brewers TV broadcast than a radio one.
SNY has Ron Darling, who is excellent in spite of Cohen. Keith, as someone cleverly pointed out, is lazy, but when on is very good. Cohen's ego seems larger than it should be most of the time, that's when SNY isn't a pleasure. I don't mind Kiner being unwrapped from his tomb. It seems something an old timey fan can tolerate, even if it is forced and he says the same things every time.
"Here comes the pizza!" remains one of the great 2 minutes in baseball broadcasting.
Also, obviously Kiner is years past his sell-by date, but the man has continuously broadcast the Mets since their very first game. If he wants to work on Sundays, he's entitled to.
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