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Royals.com: Francoeur is double-threat player in KC

CLEVELAND - Right fielder Jeff Francoeur, in his first season for the Royals, has already matched his career high in doubles at 40.

Francoeur’s double in the second inning of Friday night’s 2-1 loss to the Indians equaled his total for 162 games in 2007 with the Braves. That might have been his best all-around season as Francoeur also batted .293 with 19 homers and 105 RBIs.

This season, Francoeur has 15 home runs and 19 stolen bases, thus joining a select list of six Royals who had seasons with 40 or more doubles, 15 or more homers and 15 or more steals. The others: Amos Otis, ‘76; Hal McRae, ‘77; George Brett, ‘79; Johnny Damon, ‘00; and Carlos Beltran, ‘02.

“I hope I’m not going to stop at 40,” Francoeur said. “I give a lot of credit to Seitz [hitting coach Kevin Seitzer] and the guys here keeping on me, and making sure I get my work in every day. I feel like it’s been a good season so far, but I’m looking forward to finishing even stronger.”

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1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 01:44 PM (#3912157)

This season, Francoeur has 15 home runs and 19 stolen bases, thus joining a select list of six Royals who had seasons with 40 or more doubles, 15 or more homers and 15 or more steals. The others: Amos Otis, ‘76; Hal McRae, ‘77; George Brett, ‘79; Johnny Damon, ‘00; and Carlos Beltran, ‘02.

2011 Alex Gordon is one steal away from this.

Frenchy is having a terrific year, but its only about as good as Gordon's "disappointing" 2008 season.

2. zack Posted: August 30, 2011 at 01:45 PM (#3912158)

“I give a lot of credit to Seitz [hitting coach Kevin Seitzer] "

Ok, so the (much lamented) current sports nickname scheme is to take the first syllable of the last name and add -er.

Except, apparently, when that is already the last name, in which case you subtract the -er?

3. gay guy in cut-offs smoking the objective pipe Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:01 PM (#3912179)

Yeah, he's both a threat to their quest for .500 and a threat to their ability to sign players who are actually good.

4. Ron J Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:12 PM (#3912190)

#2 Seitzerer.

I like that better than Seitz.

5. flournoy Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:18 PM (#3912194)

Francer.

6. Cowboy Popup Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:22 PM (#3912199)

2011 Alex Gordon is one steal away from this.

Frenchy is having a terrific year, but its only about as good as Gordon's "disappointing" 2008 season.

Can we turn this into a Alex Gordon is having a super awesome year thread? He's sixth in WAR in the AL in both WARs among position players and he is on fire right now. He's at .305/.378/.506 (143 OPS+ after last night. How much longer is he under club control? He'd be a real good building block to have around when the young guys start earning more playing time.

7. Pat Rapper's Delight Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:24 PM (#3912203)

K-Seit in da house!

8. Rants Mulliniks (formerly Cold Prosimian) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:25 PM (#3912204)

It is nice to see Gordon having a great year. Not a conventional guy to have in the leadoff spot, but I don't have a problem with that at all, he's getting more PAs, and its obviously suiting him.

9. SoSH U at work Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:32 PM (#3912213)

Frenchy is having a terrific year, but its only about as good as Gordon's "disappointing" 2008 season.

But much better than Alex Gordon's three other disappointing seasons, right?

10. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:35 PM (#3912215)

Can we turn this into a Alex Gordon is having a super awesome year thread? He's sixth in WAR in the AL in both WARs among position players and he is on fire right now. He's at .305/.378/.506 (143 OPS+ after last night. How much longer is he under club control? He'd be a real good building block to have around when the young guys start earning more playing time.

I think he has two more years, but they're said to be working on a long-term deal this winter.

11. Zach Posted: August 30, 2011 at 02:37 PM (#3912218)

12. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 30, 2011 at 03:16 PM (#3912263)

13. Eugene Freedman

Posted: August 30, 2011 at 03:20 PM (#3912267)

Except, apparently, when that is already the last name, in which case you subtract the -er?

Jeet (er)

14. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: August 30, 2011 at 03:30 PM (#3912281)

2011 Alex Gordon is one steal away from this.

and Melky is 4 doubles away.

Let's make a group, as Bill James said, take any half decent player, pick out their BEST numbers, make those numbers the floor and you can group that guy with a bunch of MVPs/HOFers.

Let's look at that Frenchified 15-15-40 group, Frenchy is a corner OF with an OPS+ of 117, he has 1.8 WAR, far and away the worst of the "group."

How about a new group? 15 hrs, 15 sb, 35 doubles and a .300 average, that drops Frenchy and lets in Melky- Melky and a couple of guys lots better than Melky

15. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: August 30, 2011 at 03:40 PM (#3912289)

EDIT: Add Brandon Inge to that club as well.

Brandon Twinge was a .199/.260/.330 hitter as a catcher, .245/.317/.405 as a 3B

Gordon was a .248/.331/.413 hitter at 3B- if he shows the same *sustained* degree of improvement as Inge, the Royals would be ecstatic.

16. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: August 30, 2011 at 03:48 PM (#3912297)

Royals batters have gone 15-15-40 six times. Bobby Abreu has gone 15-15-40 seven times.

17. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: August 30, 2011 at 03:51 PM (#3912301)

Inge improved but his first season off the catcher position was by far his best, it didn't accurately represent his offensive performance going forward.

18. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:01 PM (#3912310)

Francoeur is double-threat player in KC

Yes, he's a threat to strike out, or ground out.

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19. Horror Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:26 PM (#3912339)

He's having a decent enough year, but yeah that he gets so much attention for it while Gordon has been essentially ignored is strange. The media fetish with Jeff Francoeur knows no bounds...

20. SoSH U at work Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:31 PM (#3912345)

He's having a decent enough year, but yeah that he gets so much attention for it while Gordon has been essentially ignored is strange. The media fetish with Jeff Francoeur knows no bounds...

Or the BTF fetish with Frenchy. It can be hard to tell.

21. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:36 PM (#3912349)

Gordon is a great example for moving a player off a position he can't handle defensively. His offensive explosion dates almost to the day that the Royals sent him to the minor leagues to learn left field.

The stats show he was fine at 3B in 2007-8 (avg. to a little below).

I'd date the "offensive explosion", which is really just reaching what his minor league numbers suggested, to the Royals stopping dicking him around and letting him play.

22. Guapo Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:40 PM (#3912353)

Ok, so the (much lamented) current sports nickname scheme is to take the first syllable of the last name and add -er.

Except, apparently, when that is already the last name, in which case you subtract the -er?

So what would Hitler's nickname be?

23. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:46 PM (#3912357)

So what would Hitler's nickname be?

Der Furher, duh.

24. I Am Not a Number Posted: August 30, 2011 at 04:50 PM (#3912361)

So what would Hitler's nickname be?

end of thread

25. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: August 30, 2011 at 05:15 PM (#3912383)

Inge improved but his first season off the catcher position was by far his best, it didn't accurately represent his offensive performance going forward.

no but until this year, his post catching performance was still far better than his catching performance.

26. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: August 30, 2011 at 05:16 PM (#3912384)

I'd date the "offensive explosion", which is really just reaching what his minor league numbers suggested, to the Royals stopping dicking him around and letting him play.

agreed

27. Dale Sams Posted: August 30, 2011 at 05:19 PM (#3912391)

and meanwhile Clint Robinson and Lorenzo Cain rot.

28. The District Attorney Posted: August 30, 2011 at 05:24 PM (#3912402)

Ok, so the (much lamented) current sports nickname scheme is to take the first syllable of the last name and add -er.

Except, apparently, when that is already the last name, in which case you subtract the -er?

Francou?

29. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 05:26 PM (#3912407)

and meanwhile Clint Robinson and Lorenzo Cain rot.

To be dealt for Felix Hernandez

30. Zach Posted: August 30, 2011 at 08:50 PM (#3912639)

The stats show he was fine at 3B in 2007-8 (avg. to a little below).

Gordon requested the move, though.

I don't think Gordon's struggles were a case of him being messed with. It was more like an unlucky streak that lasted several years. He had a terrible beginning to his rookie year, then had an encouraging sophomore season before suffering a badly timed hip injury in 2009. 2010 is when he requested the position change, and that's when he started hitting.

Until this year, Gordon was going to be my nominee for this generation's "Could I try this career again?" award.

31. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2011 at 08:58 PM (#3912641)

So what would Hitler's nickname be?

AHit?
AdoHi?
Dolfie?
Hittie?

32. DanG Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:03 PM (#3912643)

Adolf "The Hit Man" Hitler

Adolf "Killer" Hitler

33. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:06 PM (#3912644)

end of thread

I think you mean "thread enderer."

34. Dale Sams Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:08 PM (#3912646)

Adolf Hitler them where it hurts...bakbakbakbakbakbak. gone.

35. The Id of SugarBear Blanks

Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:09 PM (#3912648)

If he was a hockey player, Hitzie.

36. The Id of SugarBear Blanks

Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:12 PM (#3912652)

Adolf Hitler them where it hurts...bakbakbakbakbakbak. gone.

Adolf (Bong) Hitler.

Adolf (Top 40) Hitler.

Adolf (He's a Big) Hitler.

37. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:20 PM (#3912658)

"Well, that last double by Hitler should send Schmidt to the showers..."

38. McCoy Posted: August 30, 2011 at 09:55 PM (#3912676)

Koufax.

39. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 10:56 PM (#3912701)

Adolf "Puttin on the Reich" Hitler

40. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 11:04 PM (#3912706)

Hitty is a good choice. The Austrian Anschlusser!

41. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: August 30, 2011 at 11:21 PM (#3912728)

As suggested by a friend, if Hitler were a reliever: "The Fuher of the Third Strike"

42. Ron J Posted: August 31, 2011 at 12:17 AM (#3912795)

#23 Wouldn't that be a violation of show business rules?

I mean we already have Der Peerless Furher.

43. McCoy Posted: August 31, 2011 at 12:34 AM (#3912815)

As suggested by a friend, if Hitler were a reliever: "The Fuher of the Third Strike"

If Hitler was the closer he would be Adolf "The Final Solution" Hitler.

44. Lassus Posted: August 31, 2011 at 12:56 AM (#3912860)

Rory disagrees.

45. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:05 AM (#3912873)

Until this year, Gordon was going to be my nominee for this generation's "Could I try this career again?" award.

Not Brandon Wood?

And I assume it is now Pedro Alvarez.

"Well, that last double by Hitler should send Schmidt to the showers..."

"French surrenders the lead to Hitler...."

46. McCoy Posted: August 31, 2011 at 01:41 AM (#3912910)

Someone smarter than me make a witty one liner that includes Hitler and Mussina.

47. Something Other Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:13 AM (#3913033)

Der Francouer since June 22 to August 29: .303/.359/.494/.853.

Uh-oh--what's that? What's that BABIP? .364?

Hey Jeffy! Can you spell U-N-S-U-S-T-A-I-N-A-B-L-E ??

edit: has anyone ever done a chart of BABIP as it related to the slash line? You drop that .364 to Francouer's career BABIP and he's hitting little better than he did as the worst player in the majors from 2008-2010.

48. Bob Evans Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:30 AM (#3913043)

Francoeur is double-threat player in KC

He'll both rip off your head AND sh*t down your neck.

49. BourbonSamurai, vassal of the Harpsburg Empire Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:40 AM (#3913046)

43 wins.

50. Coot Veal and Cot Deal make $486 every day Posted: August 31, 2011 at 03:57 AM (#3913051)

So what would Hitler's nickname be?

A-Dolf, natch

43 wins.

yup.

51. Walt Davis Posted: August 31, 2011 at 05:09 AM (#3913071)

Chris Berman: Adolf "Hitler Baby One More Time"

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