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Thursday, December 19, 2013

Royals acquire Valencia from Orioles for Lough - Third baseman to back up Moustakas, possibly play first base

Lough’s status with the Royals was in jeopardy after right fielder Norichika Aoki was obtained from the Brewers. Lough had spent his entire career in the KC organization, so the trade to Baltimore was unsettling.

“It was kind of a shock to me,” Lough said.

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 19, 2013 at 09:30 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: baltimore, general, kansas city, orioles, royals, trades

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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 19, 2013 at 10:15 AM (#4620797)
Nice deal for both teams. Both are out of options, and both didn't have a place on their current rosters. Lough is a nice player, but he's due for a major regression with his defensive stats, and he's below average with the stick. He can be a nice 4th OF I suppose. Valencia can mash lefties, so he'll probably platoon a bit with Moustakas, although the Royals still have a bit of a roster crunch if the plan to carry 12 pitchers with Bonifacio, Hayes, Maxwell, and Dyson already on the bench.
   2. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: December 19, 2013 at 10:32 AM (#4620812)
On the whole, I think Lough might be the better player of the two.
   3. JJ1986 Posted: December 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM (#4620815)
If Cain is starting 75 or 80% of the time, I don't think you need to carry Dyson. Bonifacio can function as the 5th outfielder. I might try to replace Hayes with a LHH so you have better options to pinch hit from either side.
   4. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: December 19, 2013 at 10:33 AM (#4620816)
Really like this trade for the Orioles. Lough will probably provide 95% of McLouth's value (and maybe more) for 1/10 the price.
   5. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: December 19, 2013 at 10:35 AM (#4620817)
If they can sign Burnett (or even Arroyo) to a reasonable deal I'll be very happy with the O's offseason.
   6. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 19, 2013 at 11:03 AM (#4620845)
If Cain is starting 75 or 80% of the time, I don't think you need to carry Dyson. Bonifacio can function as the 5th outfielder. I might try to replace Hayes with a LHH so you have better options to pinch hit from either side.


Maybe, but Cain is hurt a lot. Dyson is the only player that can really handle CF on a daily basis. Aoki and Maxwell could stand out there, but I wouldn't feel great about it. Plus he is their best pinch runner that can actually make a big impact with his legs, and has started to show he's not a zero with the bat either. I like Maxwell a lot, but he suddenly seems like the guy they can't fit on this roster.

Really like this trade for the Orioles. Lough will probably provide 95% of McLouth's value (and maybe more) for 1/10 the price.


That's a pretty good comp I think, a poor man's McLouth.
   7. DJS, the Digital Dandy Posted: December 19, 2013 at 11:20 AM (#4620873)
Yeaarrgghhhh as usual is more optimistic than I am. This looks like an 83-79 team to me. Woo.
   8. Dingbat_Charlie Posted: December 19, 2013 at 12:26 PM (#4620919)
I foolishly thought the brief moment in the sun would inspire Pete to spend some MASN cash.
   9. Swedish Chef Posted: December 19, 2013 at 12:30 PM (#4620922)
As fun as it is, acquiring players for laughs is probably not a winning strategy.
   10. Johnny Sycophant-Laden Fora Posted: December 19, 2013 at 01:17 PM (#4620967)
Really like this trade for the Orioles. Lough will probably provide 95% of McLouth's value (and maybe more) for 1/10 the price.

That's a pretty good comp I think, a poor man's McLouth.

4 AAA years, averaged out to a league average hitter, that projects to about an 80 in the MLB, sure he put up a 96 part time in KC last year (which is what McLouth did in Baltimore...)
better fielder than McLouth I presume

95%?
100%
sure, but if you're trying to contend shouldn't the goal be to upgrade McLouth not simply replace him?
   11. Davo's Favorite Tacos Are Moose Tacos Posted: December 19, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4621236)
Agree with #1, here, for sure.

Royals had too many outfielders, and needed an infielder (and preferably a RHB who can spell MooseTacos at third). Lough is a quality little player, who should definitely provide some value to the Orioles (who are pretty thin in the outfield after McLouth's departure).

Also agree that Dyson looks like the odd man out if this is the offense they start the year with.

The Royals pretty desperately need another starting pitcher still, but you have to assume they're done with free agents. They have spare parts in Luke Hochevar and Lorenzo Cain (I think a Maxwell/Dyson platoon replaces almost all of his production). Just a matter of finding a trade partner. Maybe talk to the Marlins about Tom Koehler or the Rockies about Juan Nicasio, someone in that area?
   12. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: December 19, 2013 at 05:09 PM (#4621245)
Rockies about Juan Nicasio, someone in that area?


The Rockies supposedly love Wade Davis.
   13. Zach Posted: December 19, 2013 at 06:19 PM (#4621313)
I can see the rationale for the Royals, but I like this trade for the Orioles better. I agree with the "poor man's XXX" comments -- Lough does everything well, just not quite as well as the real stars. He'll end up producing a lot of value with mediocre rate stats -- he'll get a lot of playing time even if he's not a starter, because he's too good to leave on the bench.

If I were a value shopper trading with the Royals, Lough and Will Smith would have been two guys I'd like to pick up. I'm a little perturbed that the Royals let both of them go.
   14. McCoy Posted: December 19, 2013 at 10:14 PM (#4621427)
Read it as "Royals acquire Valence from Orioles for laughs" and figured that that sounds about right.
   15. Walt Davis Posted: December 20, 2013 at 12:54 AM (#4621479)
A little weird ... Xavier Paul just signed an NRI with the O's. Pretty much the same player as Lough -- although Paul was apparently terrible defensively last year, he's been average in the majors before that.

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