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Tuesday, April 24, 2012

Royals Not THAT Much Better Than You Think

Like, for example, saying the Kansas City Royals, now 3-13 after losing 11 straight games, have been (and/or are) the seventh-best team in the major leagues. That’s interesting and crazy, and that’s what our FanGraphs pals have done in their new Power Rankings.

Yeah. And if you focus on just the American League Central, it goes like this:

1. Royals (7)
2. White Sox (8)
3. Indians (13)
4. Tigers (14)
5. Twins (27)

Based on that alone, we might accurately describe these Power Rankings as idiosyncratic, no? The Royals have the ninth-best OPS in the American League, and the 11th-best ERA; the Tigers rank 12th and 4th.*

Interesting discussion of how the 3-13 Royals placed 7th overall in the latest FanGraphs/SI Power Rankings. Apparently, if you remove the fielding WAR from the equation, they drop to 19th.

Tom Nawrocki Posted: April 24, 2012 at 01:43 PM | 7 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: royals, sabermetrics

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   1. RB in NYC (Now Semi-Retired from BBTF) Posted: April 24, 2012 at 07:54 PM (#4115181)
I'm willing to allow that the seventh-best team in baseball could go 3-13 for a stretch. It seems unlikely, but I suppose it is possible.

On the other hand, I am not willing to allow that the Kansas City Royals are the seventh-best team in baseball.
   2. McCoy Posted: April 24, 2012 at 08:05 PM (#4115187)
Couldn't they have figured out a way to make them the 6th best?
   3. Jim Wisinski Posted: April 24, 2012 at 11:00 PM (#4115410)
I'm willing to allow that the seventh-best team in baseball could go 3-13 for a stretch. It seems unlikely, but I suppose it is possible.

You could argue that it happened last season. The Red Sox, in a tough division, finished tied for the 8th best record in baseball and had a pythag of 94 wins. They went 3-14 from 9/7-9/25 (4-18 if you go start at 9/4).

You are of course correct that the Royals aren't remotely close to the 7th best team in baseball.
   4. Bote Man Posted: April 24, 2012 at 11:29 PM (#4115435)
But...Francoueueour's arm!!!11!!
   5. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: April 25, 2012 at 12:46 PM (#4115754)
I think there was more than a little optimism in KC, what with all the young talent. But, geez, an 0-10 home stand to open the season? That'll cause some serious fan base enthusiasm evaporation.
   6. Danny Posted: April 25, 2012 at 12:52 PM (#4115757)
From the SI/FG rankings:
Judging by wins and losses alone, the Royals have been atrocious. But their offensive line of .254/.316/.408 is pretty close to league average and their pitching hasn't been disastrous.

That certainly sounds like the 7th best team in baseball...
   7. fra paolo Posted: April 25, 2012 at 01:08 PM (#4115773)
Useful cliches:

"It's always darkest before the dawn."
"Failure is the first step on the path to success."
"Rome wasn't built in a day."

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