Name: Steve Earle
You have to at least consider pitch count in today’s game. Any manager/GM/owner that doesn’t is a redneck and a dinosaur. Pitchers are too valuable, and they are asked to throw more different pitches at higher velocities than ever before. One hundred pitches going into the 9th? Depends on the pitcher, the batters he’ll face in the inning, importance of the game, etc. One thing’s for certain – you better get it right.
Name: Handsome Dick Manitoba
Everything depends on the situation, and all the microscopic aspects involved: Who the pitcher is, how deep in the season we are, and what the relief options are. I think, after watching our very own Joe Girardi on a daily basis, there is too much importance based on stats in general, and not enough importance placed on “instinct” and “the moment”. (Girardi and his ####### “book”!) My thinking: “Who is my pitcher, how durable is he, how much has he thrown this season, were the hundred pitches a laboring hundred, or an in-command, fairly easy hundred?” Based on all of the above, I would probably let him start the ninth. I believe pitchers should be stronger and less babied than they are these days. I hate the automatic “go to the closer” era we have been in for years
Name: Ken Casey
Band: Dropkick Murphys
These guys make millions – let them pitch, for Christ’s sake!!!
Okay. Dropkick Murphy’s (Johnny & Tom) 166 career saves.
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1. Dale Sams Posted: April 25, 2012 at 01:00 PM (#4115764)Really? Cause "Reverse slider" notwithstanding I thought the screwball had gone the way of 'rednecks and dinosaurs'. The knuckler is barely seen anymore also.
The two easiest pitches on the arm going away can't help.
Knuckler + change-up?
Makes me madder than a 14-year-old boy being told his 12-year-old sister is off limits.
"You Redneck, illiterate, Nascar-loving stereotyping bigots!" always makes me laugh.
There are protected groups, and non-protected groups in the tolerance framework.
Being a white, conservative christian is three strikes against you.
Edit: BTW, I'm reading an excellent book about how conservatives and liberals think differently about morality, and why liberals can't understand conservative thought. The author is an atheist, liberal, but the presentation is very fair; it is based heavily on evolutionary psychology.
http://www.amazon.com/The-Righteous-Mind-Politics-Religion/dp/0307377903
evolutionary psychology is almost totally ########.
There are protected groups, and non-protected groups in the tolerance framework.
Being a white, conservative christian is three strikes against you.
You obviously have had it very tough in life. And you're straight, which is strike four or something like that.
"Back when men were men and legends like Sandy Koufax, Bob Gibson, Tom Seaver and Catfish Hunter stalked the mound, nobody gave a rat's ass about how many pitches they threw per game."
Oh well -- three out of four ain't bad. Which isn't quite Meat Loaf, but anyway...
I think he's talking specifically about their complete game totals as compared to today's starters. Hunter had 30 CG in 1975, which makes him the last pitcher to complete that many in a season.
Remember that TV Movie of the Week where the guy was raped by a woman and no one would take him seriously, and his wife left him?
No? Oh well, nevermind.
Paul Sorvino, wasn't it?
Ahh here it is.
You obviously have had it very tough in life. And you're straight, which is strike four or something like that.
American white conservative christians complaining about bigotry is like redneck 14 year old boys complaining about getting raped by their 12-year old sister.
Of course I never said anything like that.
I said in the progressive tolerance framework, white conservative christians are not considered worthy of tolerance. You can make fun of rednecks or evangelicals or Catholics and never be called out by progressives.
If you make fun of Muslims for truly retrograde views you'll be called a bigot, but never for criticizing conservative Christians.
Thank God the majority of the US, especially outside the coasts, doesn't subscribe to the progressive worldview, so conservative Christians aren't actually persecuted. But they are certainly denied respect for their views in progressive circles.
As has been pointed out, there's a lot of context you're ignoring.
I don't know of any progressives that do this. Knee-jerk anti-Muslim viewpoints are not the same as pointing out that some (many?) Muslims have "retrograde views" (and the ones holding the "retrograde views" are the conservative Muslims). Find me a progressive the defends these "retrograde views".
The problem here isn't Christianity or Islam. It's the conservative part of both that's mostly abhorrent in both religions.
Amen. Wish we could start this one over. Indy rock nerds talking about baseball. I expected more... or less, maybe.
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