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Tuesday, September 02, 2014

Rule change means more players to choose from for postseason roster

In the past, players on the 25-man roster as of Aug. 31 were eligible, along with players on the disabled list. The overall restriction was not that severe, however; any player in the organization could replace an injured player.

The difference now is that all players on the 40-man roster as of Aug. 31 are eligible. The Pirates, for example, can name outfielder Gregory Polanco to their postseason roster even though they will not recall him from the minors until Tuesday.

Polanco also was eligible under the previous rule, as a potential injury replacement. But this system is cleaner. Teams did not need to place players on the “phantom” DL in late August to keep them eligible for the postseason. They can simply pick from their 40-man roster before the playoffs start.

Also, there can be no shenanigans with bumping players off the 60-day DL to create space on the 40-man roster. That player cannot be replaced on the 40-man unless he has served the full 60 regular-season days on the DL.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 02, 2014 at 10:50 AM | 15 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Sean Forman Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:26 PM (#4783742)
Also, there can be no shenanigans with bumping players off the 60-day DL to create space on the 40-man roster. That player cannot be replaced on the 40-man unless he has served the full 60 regular-season days on the DL.


Are there any teams that don't have a player on the 60 day dl?

Seems to me it would be cleaner to just say, "40-man roster on Aug 31. Done."

Also I assume this rule change was made a while back. Can't imagine they would do it just now.
   2. Best Regards, President of Comfort, Esq. Posted: September 02, 2014 at 12:37 PM (#4783756)
Also I assume this rule change was made a while back. Can't imagine they would do it just now.


I don't think MLB publishes their roster rules, so a lot of what we know is just from what team officials tell reporters. Someone probably asked, "Wait, how is so-and-so going to be eligible for the postseason if he wasn't on the roster?"
   3. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 02, 2014 at 01:18 PM (#4783789)

Also I assume this rule change was made a while back. Can't imagine they would do it just now.


It was made last winter I believe.
   4. Shredder Posted: September 02, 2014 at 03:16 PM (#4783897)
I don't see a reason why any player who is part of your organization as of August 31st shouldn't be eligible. This isn't beer league softball. MLB teams are not bringing in ringers for the playoffs.
   5. Shibal Posted: September 02, 2014 at 03:23 PM (#4783913)
How does the NFL do it? Can they sign guys off the street for a playoff game?

It's not unheard of to lose a couple of running backs in a game. A team would be screwed if they can't replace those guys.
   6. Davo Dozier Posted: September 02, 2014 at 03:33 PM (#4783926)
I'm just glad this means I won't have to manually make this change myself anymore when I run OOTP simulations.
   7. Gary Truth Serum Posted: September 02, 2014 at 03:34 PM (#4783927)
How does the NFL do it? Can they sign guys off the street for a playoff game?

They can. Due to an injury to Chad Lewis, Jeff Thomason was signed by the Eagles for Super Bowl XXXIX three years after he had last played in in NFL game.
   8. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 02, 2014 at 03:43 PM (#4783933)
Yea, IIRC, the Giants signed that long-snapper who messed up the snap in that wild 49ers-Giants playoff game awhile back in the middle of the week. He had been retired sitting at home.
   9. JJ1986 Posted: September 02, 2014 at 04:29 PM (#4783987)
This must be why the Royals purchased the contract of a player and then optioned him right back to Northwest Arkansas.
   10. Sunday silence Posted: September 02, 2014 at 04:33 PM (#4783992)
Pudge Heffelfinger says "hello."
   11. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 02, 2014 at 05:02 PM (#4784042)

This must be why the Royals purchased the contract of a player and then optioned him right back to Northwest Arkansas.


Not sure who you're referring to. Liam Hendriks? He made a spot start for Yordano Ventura.

They sent a bunch of players to AA Northwest Arkansas to avoid the rule that you have to keep guys in the minors for ten days. NW Arkansas's season is now done so they can call those guys up. AAA Omaha is in the playoffs.
   12. esseff Posted: September 02, 2014 at 05:23 PM (#4784065)
Because of the injury replacement provision, this really isn't much of a change at all. Teams always have injured players whom they can replace with anyone who was in the organization as of Aug. 31. One example is Francisco Rodriguez, who wasn't on the Angels' 40-man until mid-September 2002, but pitched his way onto the postseason roster as a replacement for an injured player.

One change made a few years ago that does allow flexibility is that injury replacements can now be made without regard for positions. Before that, pitchers had to be replaced by pitchers, position players by position players.

Also re: "there can be no shenanigans with bumping players off the 60-day DL to create space on the 40-man roster," I presume that should say bumping players to the 60-day disabled list. Doesn't make sense the other way.
   13. JJ1986 Posted: September 02, 2014 at 05:29 PM (#4784078)
Not sure who you're referring to.


Terrence Gore. They added him to the 40-man on Sunday even though they weren't calling him up until today.
   14. esseff Posted: September 02, 2014 at 06:07 PM (#4784105)
Are there any teams that don't have a player on the 60 day dl?


Answer to possibly rhetorical question: Currently, the Red Sox, Indians and Pirates appear to have no players on the 60-day DL.
   15. Pirate Joe Posted: September 02, 2014 at 11:10 PM (#4784269)
Terrence Gore. They added him to the 40-man on Sunday even though they weren't calling him up until today.


The Pirates did the same thing with John Holdzkom, who they have just brought into the game against the Cardinals. Holdzkom actually pitched some in the independent leagues this year. He's 6'9" tall, and he just struck out the first batter he faced (who then got to first on a wild pitch).

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