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Friday, March 15, 2013

Russell Martin, who was booed at Jays game, will not turn his back on Canada

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The East York, Ont. native has turned into a whipping boy for Canadian fans and experienced a first-hand account of the backlash Wednesday, getting booed in all three of his plate appearances from a strong Blue Jays contingent at his home park, McKechnie Field.

“They are booing me because they care. I’m sure if they saw me at dinner or something, they would want to come and shake my hand,” said Martin, who signed a two-year, US$17-million deal with the Pirates in the off-season.

“It’s just part of the game. It’s the same line every time — something about shortstop coming from the stands. I think it’s funny.

“Everybody is going to feel foolish for booing me, that’s what’s going to happen. That’s my prediction,” Martin said with a chuckle.

Canadian fans were not the only ones Martin caught flak from regarding his decision to skip the event. Fellow countrymen Justin Morneau and Brett Lawrie also voiced their displeasure. Lawrie took issue with Martin withdrawing from the event less than two weeks before it started because he could not play shortstop, calling Martin’s decision for skipping “weak.”

Martin, however, is not interested in getting into a war of words with the Blue Jays third baseman.

“He’s just a young kid voicing his opinion,” Martin said. “I’m just going to keep it at that. I respect his opinion, it doesn¹t bother me. Same thing with Justin. I did not feel ready to go out there and compete. It¹s not that I don’t want to represent Canada. People are crazy if they think that because that’s just not who I am.”

Repoz Posted: March 15, 2013 at 06:20 PM | 32 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 15, 2013 at 10:44 PM (#4389300)
Laudably level-headed response from Martin.
   2.   Posted: March 15, 2013 at 11:42 PM (#4389331)
Laudably level-headed response from Martin.


He's Canadian. He's always level-headed and polite.

Wait, no, Canadians always are getting into brawls.

I can't keep my stereotypes straight.
   3. alkeiper Posted: March 16, 2013 at 12:04 AM (#4389338)
Typical unpredictable Canadian.
   4. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 16, 2013 at 12:59 AM (#4389348)
Typical unpredictable Canadian.

Good thing the USA provides a wide buffer, otherwise those crazy Canucks would be on their 4th Mexican War.
   5. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: March 16, 2013 at 01:06 AM (#4389350)
Much ado aboot nothing.
   6. Tschingsch Posted: March 16, 2013 at 01:13 AM (#4389353)
"I did not feel ready to go out there and compete."

But if they let me play a position I've never played before, I would have been ready to go out there and compete...
   7. valuearbitrageur Posted: March 16, 2013 at 02:45 AM (#4389364)
But if they let me play the position they agreed to let me play, the one I likely prepared to play that puts far less wear and year on my body than catcher , I would have been ready to go out there and compete...


FYP.

   8. Austin Posted: March 16, 2013 at 04:59 AM (#4389367)
I respect his opinion, it doesn¹t bother me. Same thing with Justin. I did not feel ready to go out there and compete. It¹s not that I don’t want to represent Canada.


Okay, I'm genuinely curious: how the heck did these superscript 1's end up where apostrophes were supposed to go? Did the author hand-write Martin's quotes and feed them into a character recognition program, at which point the computer misread them and the author failed to notice the error?
   9. Greg K Posted: March 16, 2013 at 05:48 AM (#4389370)
Okay, I'm genuinely curious: how the heck did these superscript 1's end up where apostrophes were supposed to go? Did the author hand-write Martin's quotes and feed them into a character recognition program, at which point the computer misread them and the author failed to notice the error?

I'm too cheap to buy Office, so for almost 10 years now I've been writing papers on whatever free knock-off version of Office I have, and then using a library computer to convert to Word. The process occasionally spits out all sorts of ridiculous changes that make no sense...though I have never seen the superscript for apostrophe game.

EDIT: It's also interesting to note (or maybe it isn't) that Chris Robinson, the catcher Canada ended up using instead of Martin, was one of their better players of the tournament.
   10. jyjjy Posted: March 16, 2013 at 07:04 AM (#4389373)
Hasn't Open/LibreOffice handled that fine or a long time? Personally I have no qualms about pirating MS Office or anything MS really, for obvious reasons.
   11. Greg K Posted: March 16, 2013 at 07:08 AM (#4389374)
Hasn't Open/LibreOffice handled that fine or a long time? Personally I have no qualms about pirating MS Office or anything MS really, for obvious reasons.

Yeah I use Open Office at the moment. It works a lot better than other programs I've used in the past, but it still spits out random footnotes that are superscripted, or turns the occasional quotation mark into a dollar sign or something when you convert it to Word.
   12. depletion Posted: March 16, 2013 at 08:51 AM (#4389379)
Hasn't Open/LibreOffice handled that fine or a long time? Personally I have no qualms about pirating MS Office or anything MS really, for obvious reasons. 

They're richer than you so it's OK to steal from them?
   13. Greg K Posted: March 16, 2013 at 09:04 AM (#4389380)
Microsoft may be evil, but at least they don't wreck the formatting of threads.
   14. Flynn Posted: March 16, 2013 at 09:08 AM (#4389382)

They're richer than you so it's OK to steal from them?


They're an anti-trust lawyer's wet dream, so it's OK to steal from them.
   15. jyjjy Posted: March 16, 2013 at 09:09 AM (#4389384)
They are basically a leveraged quasi-legal monopoly with a long history of very shady business practices and a recent history of spectacularly stupid and arrogant ones(ty Ballmer) which is the only reason their stranglehold on the IT ecosystem is slipping despite their ability to buy and sell elected officials to help maintain their monopoly. Yes, it is ok to steal from them, though Greg makes a good point.
   16. Swedish Chef Posted: March 16, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4389444)
Yes, it is ok to steal from them, though Greg makes a good point.

The telling part of your rationalizations is that you fail to recognize that you help perpetuate their market position by pirating their software, if you had been in it for the principles you wouldn't have touched it with a ten-foot pole.
   17. depletion Posted: March 16, 2013 at 01:58 PM (#4389473)
I guess we have different opinions about the relative morality of anti-trust violations and intellectual property theft. As Swedish states, if you want to put it to the Man, use Open Office and fastidiously report all bugs to them. Extra points if you download the free version of Microsoft Visual Studio, compile Open Office for debug, fix the bugs yourself and send the bug fixes in to Open Office.
   18. jyjjy Posted: March 16, 2013 at 03:08 PM (#4389514)
16) If it was so easy to avoid using their products then they wouldn't be a monopoly now would they? As an IT professional I often do not have a choice at all and even when possible finding, setting up and using alternatives to MS products that are compatible with them in a broader sense is often a long, complex and annoying process often specifically due to the very nature of what I am complaining about. After doing so for some time I no longer have the desire to devote significant chunks of my life dealing with this on a personal or professional level in order to meet your standards of ideological purity so take your ten foot pole and shove it somewhere.
   19.   Posted: March 16, 2013 at 03:35 PM (#4389526)
Well this thread went exactly where I expected it to.
   20. jyjjy Posted: March 16, 2013 at 03:51 PM (#4389533)
Even depletion's interestingly colored quote formatting faux pas?
   21. Der-K and the statistical werewolves. Posted: March 16, 2013 at 03:56 PM (#4389540)
Don't use code to id a quote, folks.
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: March 16, 2013 at 05:36 PM (#4389576)

I see many of you have adopted the endearing practice
of writing all the way across the screen, forcing
others to scroll left and right to try to make sense
of the discussion. That'll learn 'em!
   23. jyjjy Posted: March 16, 2013 at 06:56 PM (#4389592)
See the discussion of depletion f**king up the thread above.
   24. Pirate Joe Posted: March 16, 2013 at 09:55 PM (#4389659)
To get back to the original point, Martin has only caught three games for the Pirates so far this spring,
the first of which was last Sunday. So by the time he was ready to start catching the Canucks were already
on their way out the door.

   25. depletion Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:35 AM (#4389786)
Friends. I cut and pasted jyjjy's comment as a quote. Added nothing, subtracted nothing. I'm not sure why the page got wider. I find that annoying as well, but I would venture a guess that it's a BBTF issue. Nulls and carriage returns, or lack of therein, shouldn't do this to a page.
   26. jyjjy Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:47 AM (#4389792)
You used code, not quote, as der k pointed out.
   27. Swedish Chef Posted: March 17, 2013 at 10:58 AM (#4389799)

Friends. I cut and pasted jyjjy's comment as a quote. Added nothing, subtracted nothing. I'm not sure why the page got wider. I find that annoying as well, but I would venture a guess that it's a BBTF issue. Nulls and carriage returns, or lack of therein, shouldn't do this to a page.


It's not a site issue, but a clumsy fingers issue :-)

In your defense, "code" is unusably shitty and shouldn't be there. Clever people use <pre></pre>

 Like this
   28. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 17, 2013 at 11:06 AM (#4389807)
It's one thing to have to work with MS products because of their monopoly in business life. It's a wholly other thing to download and use their products in your personal life when there's other options available. I have to use Microsoft Office for work, but at home I'm happy to use Open Office.

I'm not saying it's a moral failing, but if you'd otherwise have bought the product then it is a lost sale for Microsoft.
   29. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: March 17, 2013 at 11:07 AM (#4389810)
And unbearably twee people use colored font!

edit: Aww, the p tag doesn't work. So much for that joke.
   30. valuearbitrageur Posted: March 18, 2013 at 01:41 AM (#4390335)
I almost pirated MS Windows yesterday. I wanted to install my ancient copy of XP from my PC onto my Mac but it requires my license ID. I tried using my Dell install disk, but no license number anywhere on it or in it (apparently). I booted my ancient Dell, and was shocked it actually ran. I looked all over Windows but could not find it because, as it turns out, MSFT refuses to make it simple or easy for their own customers to find or get their license numbers.

I searched the web (on my mac) and found lots of programs that would read an encryted version from my copy of Windows and unencrypt it to make it usable , but my Dell doesn't have wifi, my mac doesn't have any disk drive, and I don't have an ethernet cable anymore, so I couldn't figure out how to get one of the programs on the PC.

I found other directions that gave me three (!) unique serial numbers in files on my Dell PC, but all were declared invalid by MSFT. Finally, after a few hours of my life wasted, I found the original ID on a sticker still on the PC (thank god), in a location that wasn't apparent.

Another 15 minutes and I pirate, and without an ounce of guilt, but with a great deal of angry self justification.
   31. Howie Menckel Posted: March 18, 2013 at 09:24 AM (#4390388)

Ok, I'll say this really slowly.
Either fix the width problem,
or STOP WRITING SENTENCES THAT GO ACROSS
THE ENTIRE SCREEN.

Thank you.

   32.   Posted: March 18, 2013 at 10:29 AM (#4390426)
I think you guys need bigger screens.

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