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Rustin Dodd on Twitter: “Here’s the space between the yellow line and the first row in right field at Minute Maid Park:… ”

 

Jim Furtado Posted: October 18, 2018 at 10:05 AM | 18 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Anthony Kennedy of BBTF (Scott) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 11:55 AM (#5770277)
Sure, but everyone was standing up and at least one dude literally had his hands on the yellow stripe.
   2. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: October 18, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5770325)
Right. The two guys on the right side of that group were pretty clearly leaning out over the field of play.
   3. Red Voodooin Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:10 PM (#5770355)
While not being definitive in showing where Mookie's glove was when contact was made, the combination of these two shots -- this one just before the ball arrives, and this one as the glove, hands and ball all converge -- make it reasonably clear that multiple hands were reaching into the field of play.
   4. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 18, 2018 at 01:32 PM (#5770380)
What I'm trying to figure out is what point this guy thinks he's making? I think they got the call right but I'm open to an argument that they didn't but "look, the seats are 3 feet away from the yellow separated by a flat floor!" is not really proof of anything. Hmmmm..there IS a sign politely asking people not to stand or lean against the rail. People wouldn't ignore a sign.
   5. Khrushin it bro Posted: October 18, 2018 at 02:45 PM (#5770456)
Interfering with a ball AND drinking Michelob Ultra???
   6. Zonk qualifies as an invasive species Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:01 PM (#5770502)
What I'm trying to figure out is what point this guy thinks he's making? I think they got the call right but I'm open to an argument that they didn't but "look, the seats are 3 feet away from the yellow separated by a flat floor!" is not really proof of anything. Hmmmm..there IS a sign politely asking people not to stand or lean against the rail. People wouldn't ignore a sign.


Meh, I said it in the other thread - but I blame the architect/designer.

There is zero reason that a seat needs to be thisclose. There are no shortage of methods such that the view is just as good, but a moat, space, basket, whatever ensures something like that never happens.

I'm sure the team/architect had visions of a leaping OF catch into the crowd... but this is the more likely result. Surprised it doesn't happen more often.
   7. SandyRiver Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:16 PM (#5770514)
ESPN (and others, I'm sure) had comments by the fans involved, which claimed they never touched Mookie's glove, and that he closed it himself when he hit the wall. Ri-i-ight, no bias there. Leap with wide open glove and close it just as the ball arrives? That's something I've yet to see happen. (In MLB, anyway)
   8. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:19 PM (#5770517)
What I'm trying to figure out is what point this guy thinks he's making?


I think he is just giving context to the situation, which I appreciate.

ESPN (and others, I'm sure) had comments by the fans involved, which claimed they never touched Mookie's glove, and that he closed it himself when he hit the wall.


It all happened so fast, I don't think any of the involved fans have an accurate recollection of what happened.

   9. The Interdimensional Council of Rickey!'s Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:21 PM (#5770518)
1. Yes, this design is terrible. You can't put people in a position where they have to be responsible and make good decisions. People are morons. CF November, 2016.

2. Doesn't matter if they think they touched his glove, or if they didn't and it closed by itself. They're clearly hanging out into the field of play, interfering with a fly ball. West made the right call.
   10. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:21 PM (#5770520)
I remember in the 2003 ALCS Todd Walker hit a homer for the Sox down the RF line that was a bit controversial. Eventually they showed replays that showed it was fair but then Fox interviewed the Yankee fan (and god help me I remember that his name was Ed Hillel) who insisted it was a foul ball.
   11. Red Voodooin Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:24 PM (#5770521)
#10 wasn't that Mark Bellhorn and wasn't that in the 2004 ALCS?
   12. Nasty Nate Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5770525)
Bellhorn's one down the line hit the foul pole. His controversial one was a different one.
   13. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:29 PM (#5770527)
Do not mess with me on pointless information! Bellhorn's HR smashed against the foul pole, it was a no brainer, Walker's was touched by a fan as it curled around the pole I think.
   14. Zonk qualifies as an invasive species Posted: October 18, 2018 at 04:51 PM (#5770539)
I give older parks a pass - at this point, that's pretty much Fenway and Wrigley, no? - but everything else has been built not since people have been acting like morons, but since people cared about the impact of people acting like morons at a professional sporting event.
   15. Kiko Sakata Posted: October 18, 2018 at 05:28 PM (#5770563)
I give older parks a pass - at this point, that's pretty much Fenway and Wrigley, no? - but everything else has been built not since people have been acting like morons


Wrigley doesn't even need a pass here. Long ago, they added the baskets below the outfield bleachers for precisely this reason - to prevent fans from interfering with balls in play (and also to prevent fans from falling onto the field of play).
   16. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: October 18, 2018 at 06:46 PM (#5770586)

There is zero reason that a seat needs to be thisclose.

There are plenty of rea$on$ that teams wouldn't want to remove what is effectively the most expensive row of seats from the ballpark.
   17. Red Voodooin Posted: October 18, 2018 at 07:44 PM (#5770599)
Do not mess with me on pointless information! Bellhorn's HR smashed against the foul pole, it was a no brainer, Walker's was touched by a fan as it curled around the pole I think.


I was thinking of this Bellhorn HR. But this is in left field, not right. I remember the fan that touched it being interviewed about it later during the game.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: October 18, 2018 at 10:11 PM (#5770672)
at this point, that's pretty much Fenway and Wrigley, no?

Dodger Stadium and Anaheim are the 3rd and 4th oldest parks according to some article I read the other day. Anaheim went under a significant re-design so possibly it shouldn't count (I have no idea how different the park was). Anyway, Anaheim is younger than me so it can't possibly be "old" but it's old enough that you should cut it some slack for telling millenials annoyed by fan interference (or anything else) to get off its lawn.

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