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Sabean on Dbacks acquiring Bell: “That’s the nature of our division”

Ordered Bell numbers…and that’s exactly what they’ll get.

Even as his Giants are battling to advance to the World Series, general manager Brian Sabean looks around and sees his NL West rivals already gunning for San Francisco next year.

You bet he took note when the Diamondbacks slithered into action Saturday by acquiring reliever Heath Bell from Miami and shortstop Cliff Pennington from Oakland.

“That’s the nature of our division,” Sabean said Sunday afternoon as the Giants prepared for Game 6. “Our division is very competitive and very underrated.

“I say it every year. Every year, it’s a shotgun start in our division. And it will be the same next year.”

With Bell, if Arizona can get him back on track, the Diamondbacks could have a lockdown bullpen next season. General manager Kevin Towers says he envisions Bell as his seventh inning guy, David Hernandez for the eighth and J.J. Putz to close. Plus, ground-ball specialist Brad Ziegler will be an important factor.

“I can see why they did it,” Sabean said. “A strong bullpen is very important. A lot of tight games are played in this division.”

Repoz Posted: October 21, 2012 at 07:27 PM | 23 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: October 21, 2012 at 07:47 PM (#4278282)
Yeah, that's how we roll on the NL West. We get worser as others stand pat. It's our way....

   2. zenbitz Posted: October 21, 2012 at 07:59 PM (#4278308)
Shotgun start? WTH? Some kinda golf thing.
   3. Bhaakon Posted: October 21, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4278400)

Shotgun start? WTH? Some kinda golf thing.


Its when, instead of every group starting on the first hole and teeing off in order and playing the course in order, they all start at the same time on a different holes and continue until they've played all 18 (in my experience, signaled by a wrist watch rather than a shotgun blast).

I have no idea what it means in this context. I don't think Sabean understands the words he's using here.
   4. Walt Davis Posted: October 21, 2012 at 08:30 PM (#4278404)
Shotgun start?

i.e. be active and you're bound to hit something.
   5. boteman Posted: October 21, 2012 at 09:38 PM (#4278510)
If Heath Bell's performance with the Marlins is predictive of his future performance with the D-backs, it's probably a signal to Sabean to stand pat. Or maybe it means he can't trade Brian Wilson to the D-backs now.
   6. Howie Menckel Posted: October 21, 2012 at 11:03 PM (#4278645)
"(in my experience, signaled by a wrist watch rather than a shotgun blast)."

geesh, if the course can't at least do an air horn, might as well take "shotgun start" out of the equation altogether.

:)

tends to be linked to "scramble" tournaments - golfers of varying levels of skill play as a team, each hitting a second shot from the spot of the best 1st shot, then each hitting from that spot until the ball is holed.

the closer you get to the hole, the more likely even a mediocre golfer might hit the best shot (or at least establish a "safe spot" where all the better golfers know they can live with that result if no one hits a great shot).


   7. shoewizard Posted: October 22, 2012 at 12:42 AM (#4278689)
NL West has represented the NL in the WS twice in the last ten years, which is at least one time less than should be expected.

Bah !

   8. DA Baracus Posted: October 22, 2012 at 12:55 AM (#4278693)
“That’s the nature of our division,” Sabean said Sunday afternoon as the Giants prepared for Game 6.


"People do stupid things like those contracts we gave Barry Zito and Aaron Rowand, but sometimes they still win the World Series" he added.
   9. Dale Sams Posted: October 22, 2012 at 12:55 AM (#4278694)
So the Sox could have traded Crawford for Bell and Hanley...and then flipped Bell.
   10. Greg K Posted: October 22, 2012 at 03:16 AM (#4278708)
"(in my experience, signaled by a wrist watch rather than a shotgun blast)."

I was at a wedding this summer on a farm across the road from a golf course/shooting club. There was a lot of golf punctuated by gun shots...I never considered that they may have been the same activity!
   11. Walt Davis Posted: October 22, 2012 at 04:46 AM (#4278712)
NL West has represented the NL in the WS twice in the last ten years, which is at least one time less than should be expected.

The Cubs have represented the NL in the WS zero times in the last 67 years which is actually more times than you'd expect given how pathetic they have been. (I know, it surprised me too. It's the pancake flops that kill them.)
   12. Bhaakon Posted: October 22, 2012 at 07:07 AM (#4278720)
geesh, if the course can't at least do an air horn, might as well take "shotgun start" out of the equation altogether.


To be fair, I've only played ina couple of them, and mostly at a course adjacent to a shooting range (which isn't nearly noisy enough to carry across all 18 holes, so I can see why they shotgun part might have fallen out of favor)

NL West has represented the NL in the WS twice in the last ten years, which is at least one time less than should be expected.


I count three of the last ten: Giants in 2002 and 2010, Rockies in 2007.
   13. RollingWave Posted: October 22, 2012 at 07:42 AM (#4278723)
To be fair, it's more like Barry Bonds represented the NL in 2002 rather than the Giants

If Sabean implies that people generally don't think much of the NL West... he's got that right... then again, on a relative level most people don't think much of any NL division as a whole....
   14. shoewizard Posted: October 22, 2012 at 07:51 AM (#4278729)
I count three of the last ten: Giants in 2002 and 2010, Rockies in 2007.


Oops.... I included 2012....what a dumbarse....
   15. BochysFingers Posted: October 22, 2012 at 08:12 AM (#4278737)
Add the 2001 Arizona appearance and you get four in eleven.
   16. Blubaldo Jimenez (OMJ) Posted: October 22, 2012 at 08:39 AM (#4278746)
I have no idea what it means in this context. I don't think Sabean understands the words he's using here.


He is saying everyone hits the ground running at the start of season. Sheesh guys, get your heads out of the spreadsheet and read some poetry once in a while..
   17. Howie Menckel Posted: October 22, 2012 at 08:48 AM (#4278748)

Also that each team starts out in a different place, but is ready to compete from Day One.

if you're going to use a cliche, I say, at least make it one with a creative twist.

   18. Bhaakon Posted: October 22, 2012 at 09:24 AM (#4278775)
He is saying everyone hits the ground running at the start of season. Sheesh guys, get your heads out of the spreadsheet and read some poetry once in a while..


A poor metaphor indeed, as a shotgun start has no impact on quality of play.
   19. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: October 22, 2012 at 11:08 AM (#4278870)
That’s the nature of our division

Everytime I see this headline, I hear it said in Hyman Roth's voice (this is the business we’ve chosen)
   20. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: October 22, 2012 at 01:31 PM (#4279017)
Everytime I see this headline, I hear it said in Hyman Roth's voice (this is the business we’ve chosen)


As opposed to his less famous brother Hymen Roth who was removed earlier in the movie.
   21. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: October 22, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4279090)
Seems to me that the way you guys are defining 'shotgun start' it's actually a very apt analogy (though strikes me as quite unlikely Sabean meant it that way). Aren't the Giants on the 17th green as the Diamondbacks have just hit their tee shot from the first hole?
   22. AJMcCringleberry Posted: October 22, 2012 at 02:52 PM (#4279111)
the Diamondbacks slithered into action

I like to think the author gave a fist pump after he thought of this line.
   23. jack the seal clubber (on the sidelines of life) Posted: October 22, 2012 at 03:56 PM (#4279187)
As opposed to his less famous brother Hymen Roth who was removed earlier in the movie.


He was in the hospital a lot in the movie.

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