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Safest Bet in Sports: Men Complaining About a Female Announcer’s Voice

Women in sports broadcasting are used to men criticizing their voices. In my three years in sports radio, I’ve had more men complain about my voice than everything else about me combined — and trust me, there are a lot of other things they don’t like about me.

“It has nothing to do with you being a woman,” they tell me, “I just can’t stand the sound of your voice.”

ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 08:08 AM | 57 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:19 PM (#5533892)
"I just can't stand that your voice is an octave or more higher than everyone else's."
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:27 PM (#5533897)
“It has nothing to do with you being a woman,” they tell me, “I just can’t stand the sound of your voice.”

I believe it. I'm sure they wouldn't find anything to criticize if she looked the same but had a voice that sounded exactly like Vin Scully. Those sorts of people probably wouldn't find anything amiss at all.
   3. simon bedford Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:28 PM (#5533899)
Up here in Canada we had a guy named Howie Meeker who did analysis during the intermissions of hockey games, his voice was about as shrill as you will hear and he used to punctuate his speech with silly phrases and get exasperated and screech "Thats not hockey!!" etc, he could be good but his voice was pretty terrible.
The two sports networks up here have some good female announcers , and we seem also to be stuck with Hazel Mae who is just terrible but not due to the timbre of her voice.
   4. Howie Menckel Posted: September 18, 2017 at 06:07 PM (#5533935)
just spitballing here, but let's say a female broadcaster - let's call her, I don't know, Wuzyn Saldman - DID have an incredibly shrill voice.

would any of the people interviewed believe that opinion wasn't sexist?

   5. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 06:16 PM (#5533944)
just spitballing here, but let's say a female broadcaster - let's call her, I don't know, Wuzyn Saldman - DID have an incredibly shrill voice.

would any of the people interviewed believe that opinion wasn't sexist?


Depends on if you were voicing similar complaints about shoutmasters like Chris Russo.

Now if you really want to hear a "shrill" female announcer, tune into BBC America some evening on PBS and listen to Jane O'Brien. I love English accents, but she sounds like Audrey Hepburn's Eliza Doolittle selling flowers on the street during the first few scenes of the movie version My Fair Lady.
   6. JJ1986 Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:02 PM (#5533971)
The second safest bet is that said women is Suzyn Waldman.
   7. Man o' Schwar Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:32 PM (#5533996)
Is it OK to complain about a woman if she's as bad as a bad man in the booth is? Or is that still somehow sexist?

Beth Mowins continues to be awful, and it has nothing to do with the octave of her voice. Her time calling Big 10 football has helped show that women can be just as bad as men in the broadcasting booth.
   8. winnipegwhip Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:37 PM (#5534001)
If I wanna hear Suzie Essman I watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. I dont need to hear that voice on Yankee broadcasts
   9. winnipegwhip Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:40 PM (#5534008)
Waldmyn has a face meant for radio and a voice meant for newsprint.
   10. Howie Menckel Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:45 PM (#5534013)
I haven't heard Mowins and I don't mind Mendoza's voice at all on MLB. her banal cliches I could do without, but she's no worse than a typical male broadcaster on that front.

if Mowins would say that a football miscue means the player "fumbled" rather than the now-mandatory "put the ball on the ground," I'd listen to that in an operatic voice and feel like I came out ahead.
   11. Man o' Schwar Posted: September 18, 2017 at 07:56 PM (#5534022)
I haven't heard Mowins and I don't mind Mendoza's voice at all on MLB. her banal cliches I could do without, but she's no worse than a typical male broadcaster on that front.

Mendoza is fine. She could use some more time as the 2nd person in a two-person booth, rather than being shoehorned in as a third wheel. I think given time and opportunity she could be pretty good in the booth, better than a lot of what they've thrown out there the last 25 years. If I never have to hear Rick Sutcliffe or John Kruk call a game again, I'll be perfectly happy.
   12. Leroy Kincaid Posted: September 18, 2017 at 08:41 PM (#5534051)
Mets have had a woman's voice in the TV booth for years and lotsa folks here rave about SNY.
   13. Lassus Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:20 PM (#5534102)
re: #12, I admit, I don't get it.
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:31 PM (#5534111)
If I wanna hear Suzie Essman I watch Curb Your Enthusiasm. I dont need to hear that voice on Yankee broadcasts

Come on, you know you'd love to hear Susie Essman wax eloquent about some umpire's call. I know I would.
   15. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:39 PM (#5534118)
Men do experience a loss once broadcast booths are opened up to women--the mere presence of the female voices forces the male listeners to hold their tongues and refrain from sexist jokes and comments. It's the same loss that white people experience after black families move into their neighborhood (or start showing up at formerly all-white bars or job sites or whatever): they're no longer free to make racist comments to their friends, they now have to speak guardedly, cautiously.

Perhaps you feel that this loss is insignificant in comparison to the benefits of integration. But that does not mean there are no negatives.
   16. Bote Man Posted: September 19, 2017 at 12:23 AM (#5534150)
You can like or dislike whatever you want, even voices coming out of the speaker. It's a free country.
   17. Rusty Priske Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:15 AM (#5534220)
An article on sexism that quickly devolves into sexism.

Great.

You give Winnipegers a bad name.
   18. Greg Pope Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:35 AM (#5534228)
This happens because it's just different. You can turn on any baseball game and all of the announcers' voices are similar enough that you just don't notice. But when you hear a woman's voice, you notice it. It's not inherently better or worse, it's just different. But that makes it noticeable. And then you think about it more. And many, many people will just decide that they don't like it. They may not even know why. If you put Barry White in the booth, you'd get the same kind of responses. They're basically just knee-jerk reactions to something different. I don't think they're inherently sexist, but of course it comes across that way.

I would think that women would say the same thing, but there are obviously a lot less of them watching and they probably would feel more pressure not to complain.
   19. TDF, FCL Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:37 AM (#5534230)
My mom (93 next month) despises women sportscasters. Says there's no place for them.
   20. Charles S. hopes his opening day is b4 opening day Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:09 AM (#5534252)
Your mom has a right to her opinion and at 93, she gets a pass, but that's a terrible opinion.
   21. wjones Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:09 AM (#5534255)
I DVR'd the Emmy Awards and watched it last night so I could fast forward through all the dead time. Not sure who the guy was that did the traditional voice-overs, but apparently he was being showcased, because I don't remember ever seeing this person on any previous award shows, and the camera kept showing him. His voice was terrible, shrill, and he kept making bad jokes as the winners were coming to the stage. Maybe others like that sort of thing, but I hated it.
   22. Howie Menckel Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:16 AM (#5534260)
Men do experience a loss once broadcast booths are opened up to women--the mere presence of the female voices forces the male listeners to hold their tongues and refrain from sexist jokes and comments. It's the same loss that white people experience after black families move into their neighborhood (or start showing up at formerly all-white bars or job sites or whatever): they're no longer free to make racist comments to their friends, they now have to speak guardedly, cautiously.

Perhaps you feel that this loss is insignificant in comparison to the benefits of integration. But that does not mean there are no negatives.

I'm 60 percent on this being satirical - which means it's either weak satire, or a bizarre extrapolation, or it was written around 1970.
   23. TDF, FCL Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:20 AM (#5534263)
Your mom has a right to her opinion and at 93, she gets a pass, but that's a terrible opinion.
Not to turn this into OTP or anything, but she also very reluctantly voted for Hillary. To her, the White House is another place a woman doesn't belong.

EDIT: My mom is surprisingly modern about many things, but the roles of the sexes isn't one of them.
   24. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:26 AM (#5534268)
Mowins's voice seems a little raspy to me, but it's certainly not the worst I've ever heard in a broadcast booth, and I don't really get "shrill" or "abrasive" from it.
   25. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:36 AM (#5534275)
I'll admit I prefer the deeper voice in the booth. I don't have any issues with Mendoza (and she's a lot better than Boone and frankly most of what ESPN has rolled out over the years). Even among male announcers the more histrionic types (Gus Johnson, Kevin Harlan) are people I find unwatchable.

Voices matter. Among US soccer fans there is definitely a prejudice against announcers who don't have a British accent of some sort. It's a tricky thing. On the one hand liking the voice is a fundamental issue for liking a broadcaster. At the same time there is definitely going to be a not insignificant percentage of people who are going to use "I just don't like the higher register" as a way of hiding "that announcer doesn't have a penis."

What I will say is I haven't hear any women who have broadcasting jobs that I find grossly unqualified. The sports that seem to have had female announcers; college hoop and football, are sports I don't watch. The little I've seen of Mendoza or Pam Ward have been no better or worse than any men I've heard. I'm more bothered by people like Thom Brenaman and Chip Caray being employed.
   26. Tim D Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:45 AM (#5534284)
There are a lot worse voices that have been around forever than the women broadcasters I have been hearing.

Howie Meeker was awesome, btw, although his voice was incredibly bad. He was kind of a poor man's Don Cherry (old-time hockey and all, although sometimes actually insightful, plus he just got so worked up). This was while Cherry was still an overrated coach rather than an overrated, fatuous, boneheaded joke of a commentator.
   27. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 19, 2017 at 11:23 AM (#5534335)
What I will say is I haven't hear any women who have broadcasting jobs that I find grossly unqualified.

You don't live in NY. As a Yankee fan, both our male and female radio announcers are grossly unqualified.
   28. simon bedford Posted: September 19, 2017 at 11:29 AM (#5534345)
Tim
Howie could be really great, he would pick up goals that the officials had missed etc and was often spot on BUT he could go off the rails with his silly expressions ("Look at Robinson dispy doodling with the puck thats not hockey! THATS NOT HOCKEY") and his weird dislike for certain excellent players ( kinda like don only not so boneheaded).
When he got agitated he was extremely shrill was my only point , more so than anyone I have ever heard on air with the exception of perhaps Jackie Stewart.
   29. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 11:43 AM (#5534361)
Men do experience a loss once broadcast booths are opened up to women--the mere presence of the female voices forces the male listeners to hold their tongues and refrain from sexist jokes and comments. It's the same loss that white people experience after black families move into their neighborhood (or start showing up at formerly all-white bars or job sites or whatever): they're no longer free to make racist comments to their friends, they now have to speak guardedly, cautiously.

Perhaps you feel that this loss is insignificant in comparison to the benefits of integration. But that does not mean there are no negatives.


I'm 60 percent on this being satirical - which means it's either weak satire, or a bizarre extrapolation, or it was written around 1970.

Or maybe it was just written by one of OJ's many incarnations.
   30. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: September 19, 2017 at 12:37 PM (#5534411)
simon (#3) - I wholeheartedly disagree with you about Hazel Mae. Of all the female announcers / anchors / commentators I see on Sportsnet or TSN, she strikes me as one of the few who actually sounds like she is speaking with her own voice. Plus, she seems knowledgeable and comfortable on camera.

So many others -- Jennifer Hedger, Kate Bierness, et al -- feel the need to use some strange husky bro-speak style that I cannot un-notice. Couple in some pretty strong Ontario accents and I find them difficult to listen to.
   31. CheersUnusualPlays Posted: September 19, 2017 at 12:49 PM (#5534415)
I don't mind women in the broadcast boost - but I do think that Hazel Mae is clumsy in interviews (based on a small sample size of 2). I do prefer alto voices to sopranos in general, so that is probably some kind of sexist bias.
   32. Booey Posted: September 19, 2017 at 12:52 PM (#5534417)
This happens because it's just different. You can turn on any baseball game and all of the announcers' voices are similar enough that you just don't notice. But when you hear a woman's voice, you notice it. It's not inherently better or worse, it's just different. But that makes it noticeable. And then you think about it more. And many, many people will just decide that they don't like it. They may not even know why. If you put Barry White in the booth, you'd get the same kind of responses.


Oh, I know EXACTLY why I'd be uncomfortable hearing Barry White's voice in the booth, seeing as he's been dead for 14 years.

Now BETTY White, that would be interesting...
   33. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 01:36 PM (#5534469)
So many others -- Jennifer Hedger, Kate Bierness, et al -- feel the need to use some strange husky bro-speak style that I cannot un-notice. Couple in some pretty strong Ontario accents and I find them difficult to listen to.

No female announcer's voice on earth could possibly be 1/100th as grating and obnoxious as Dick "DOOOOOOOK" Vitale.
   34. Man o' Schwar Posted: September 19, 2017 at 02:02 PM (#5534497)
No female announcer's voice on earth could possibly be 1/100th as grating and obnoxious as Dick "DOOOOOOOK" Vitale.

Someone just talked himself off the list of PTPers.
   35. phredbird Posted: September 19, 2017 at 03:07 PM (#5534553)

i just want vin scully to come back, and for him and jon miller to live forever, vin doing the dodger games and jon doing the jints.

if that makes me wrong, i don't want to be right.
   36. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 03:15 PM (#5534563)
No female announcer's voice on earth could possibly be 1/100th as grating and obnoxious as Dick "DOOOOOOOK" Vitale.

Someone just talked himself off the list of PTPers.


Since I assume that refers to Vitale, I count it among life's minor blessings that I no idea what that means. The mute button is my friend whenever that creep is on the air.
   37. Man o' Schwar Posted: September 19, 2017 at 03:24 PM (#5534575)
Since I assume that refers to Vitale, I count it among life's minor blessings that I no idea what that means. The mute button is my friend whenever that creep is on the air.

PTPer - Prime Time Player.

Not to be confused with a Diaper Dandy.

I haven't watched college basketball in 15 years, and sadly I still remember this stuff. Maybe he's changed his schtick since then.
   38. simon bedford Posted: September 19, 2017 at 03:35 PM (#5534586)
Hazel Mae always reminds me of Fergie Oliver , doing pointless "human interest" stories that are not remotely interesting, she just gets in the way and does not give the appearance of having the least bit interest in what she is actually doing ( not that I blame her).
   39. Tim D Posted: September 19, 2017 at 04:07 PM (#5534612)
Simon, I agree Howie was fun, and "shrill" to the point of hurting your ears. But he was just so irrepressible, so genuine, you couldn't help but like him. He was unrehearsed, something we sadly see very little of today. Hockey Night in Canada in the 60's and 70's was incredibly great. In Detroit it was a god-send to hockey fans, the Dead Things were so bad. Not like it used to be but HNIC is still good, even Cherry is fun to watch to see how big of a horse's ass he will be tonight.
   40. Rickey! the first of his name Posted: September 19, 2017 at 04:11 PM (#5534620)
Not to be confused with a Diaper Dandy.


I think, technically, at least originally, the "Diaper" there was a tensed adjective. "A diapered dandy," meaning a very young player showing skills. Please do not interpret this comment as a defense of Vitale's continued existence on the planet.
   41. Rickey! the first of his name Posted: September 19, 2017 at 04:12 PM (#5534622)
I'll admit I prefer the deeper voice in the booth.


Not that there's anything wrong with that. You do you, Jose. You do you.
   42. Tim D Posted: September 19, 2017 at 04:24 PM (#5534630)
Vitale is as bad as there is. After he was fired by the Pistons his first basketball TV gigs were in Detroit. He did an MSU/U-Detroit game during Magic Johnson's freshman year. He opined loudly and long-windedly that Magic would never make it because he couldn't shoot, he couldn't play guard because smaller guys would always be stealing from him, and that he was too slight and not enough of a rebounder to play forward. MSU predictably clobbered U-D with Magic making incredible passes that resulted in dunk after dunk. I never heard him doubt Magic again, to his credit. But he is still "Mute Button" Vitale. What an awful voice.
   43. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: September 19, 2017 at 04:45 PM (#5534650)
Vitale is as bad as there is.


Disagree. His opinions can be weird and his style is obnoxious, but he does at least seem like he enjoys the sport that he's covering... which puts him up on probably 50% of the on-air talent for ESPN.
   44. Blanks for Nothing, Larvell Posted: September 19, 2017 at 05:05 PM (#5534666)
Beth Mowins simply isn't a good announcer. A woman certainly could be. But she isn't. (*)

There's no political content in that piece of criticism, and it's bizarre that one is so readily inferred. Some women aren't that great at their chosen vocation, some women are fantastic. Same with men. So why would anyone be surprised to come across a woman who isn't that great at their chosen vocation, or to think there's anything "political" in making reference to that fact?

(*) Jessica Mendoza is pretty good. Above average. Does a good job. You know a woman in sports voicing/announcing who's really good? The Giants' PA announcer at Polo Grounds at China Basin.
   45. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 05:32 PM (#5534685)
Simon, I agree Howie was fun, and "shrill" to the point of hurting your ears. But he was just so irrepressible, so genuine, you couldn't help but like him. He was unrehearsed, something we sadly see very little of today.

Funny, but when I read this, for a second I thought you were talking about Howard Cosell, who wasn't quite as bad as Vitale, but it was close. Listening to Cosell talking about himself was a torture somewhere on the spectrum between Donald Trump talking about his hotels and John Sterling discussing the shortcomings of sabermetrics with Suzyn Waldman.

But Vitale is worse than all of them. He's only man I'd ever want to kidnap and force into one of those accent deprogramming schools. Jane O'Brien is the only woman.

   46. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 05:34 PM (#5534688)
Vitale is as bad as there is.

Disagree. His opinions can be weird and his style is obnoxious, but he does at least seem like he enjoys the sport that he's covering...

Yes, and I'm sure that Dan Snyder enjoys owning the Redskins.
   47. DaVoice of DaPeople Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:49 PM (#5534798)
I wasn't even ALIVE in 1970. Jeez.
   48. Tim D Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:14 PM (#5534818)
Rick Sutcliffe likes baseball. Does that make him better?

Vitale should be shot out of a cannon. To Venezuela or some other place far away.

Agree on Cosell. The worst Cosell torture was when ABC inexplicably put him on baseball in the 70s. He hated baseball and made it very clear every game he did. He said race car drivers were better athletes than baseball players. In an A's game that had Reggie, Billy North, Campaneris, Bando, Rudi, Vida Blue, etc. "Fatuous" and "pompous" are words that were invented for the likes of Cosell. And his voice was fingernails on the blackboard. Before cable so you had to cross the room to turn the sound down. Some exercise at least.
   49. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:24 PM (#5534827)
Vitale should be shot out of a cannon. To Venezuela or some other place far away.

Have you no sense of decency, sir?? As if the Venezuelans aren't suffering enough already.
   50. Tim D Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:29 PM (#5534835)
Ok, pick a country, any country. Albania. Liechtenstein. Senegal. Anywhere. Please.
   51. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:31 PM (#5534839)
I'll admit I prefer the deeper voice in the booth.

This only makes you unique in that you admit it. People have been found to prefer lower pitch because it's authoritative and engenders trust. But not too low, because then our reptilian brains identify a threat to our lives.
   52. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:42 PM (#5534852)
Ok, pick a country, any country. Albania. Liechtenstein. Senegal. Anywhere. Please.

What did the people of those countries ever do to you? Vitale sprung from the loins of American society. He's our fault. It's our moral duty to fall on the grenade and not inflict him upon innocent people elsewhere.
   53. Tim D Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:47 PM (#5534859)
Vitale doesn't speak their language (or any language for that matter). His impact will be ameliorated.
   54. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:49 PM (#5534861)
Vitale doesn't speak their language (or any language for that matter). His impact will be ameliorated.

Doesn't matter what language the writing on the chalkboard is, the raking nails sound the same.
   55. PreservedFish Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:56 PM (#5534864)
20 years ago I saw Dick Vitale in an airport, I think in Virginia. My father prodded me to go get his autograph, which I did. He wrote: "Study awesome baby."

The other thing I remember is that he bought a Milky Way bar and removed the entire wrapper before eating it, rather than exposing only one bite at a time.
   56. Jose is an Absurd Doubles Machine Posted: September 19, 2017 at 11:12 PM (#5534869)
Rick Sutcliffe likes baseball. Does that make him better?


It makes him better than he would be but he still sucks. In general though I noticed this when MLBN started up. They just seemed so excited about baseball and that wasn't something you got from ESPN. Enjoy what you are doing.

Speaking of which I'll shout out to everyone's favorite Joe Buck. Buck isn't great but to me he is a dramatically different announcer since his health scare a few years ago. My guess is that he realized how lucky he was and it has made a difference in the way he calls baseball games (I don't watch football).
   57. Lassus Posted: September 20, 2017 at 09:15 AM (#5534932)
They should have Gary Thorne do the Puppy Bowl one year.

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