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The Yankees are the worst though, as they have statues at ss and 1b.
I wonder if the A's will have a statue at their new park? Hunter, Fingers, Eck could be options. Rickey in his trademark crounch at the plate or sliding headfirst into second would be best. Or they could just put Emil Brown somewhere.
They will if Beane can trade a veteran sculptor for someone in an MFA program who is graduating in 2010.
My question is, when will the Giants erect a statue of Bonds?
Perhaps a statue of Beane poring over a spreadsheet?
Nah. At his computer, writing the first draft of Moneyball.
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(Yes, I read primer on the hopper; I am a sick monkey)
Arthur was actually a quite fascinating President -- he rose to power as yes-man for the corrupt Stalwarts, then completely turned his back on them after James Garfield's assassination and enacted the most ambitious civil service reform in our nation's history. In fact, he so enraged the GOP that he couldn't even resecure the nomination the next cycle.
Chester Arthur is sort of the Mike Piazza (no, not in that way... you're thinking of James Buchanan) of Presidents. A late rounder afterthought of whom not much was expected, who then went on to far exceed expectations... not that Arthur deserves a spot in the pantheon of greats like Piazza might, but if you were lay out the expectations of Presidents entering office and rank their chances for success without the benefit of 20/20 hindsight, Arthur would probably have been ranked at the bottom of the list.
He's no Warren Harding, that's for sure.
And Harding is no Millard Fillmore.
Furtado should build a monument to it, to go with the Katrina, PETCO and Obama thread monuments.
And McCovey didn't "come up with Cepeda." Cepeda played in the Giants' first game in San Francisco in 1958 and preceded McCovey in the lineup by a full year and a half. Marichal didn't get there until 1960.
Why thank you, kind sir!
Sounds like you need to get Kaufman off your lawn, too. ;-
harry truman wasn't taken very seriously at the start. of course, he didn't have much support at the end either.
Mister, we could use a man like Herbert Hoover again.
I figured it would be him drinking a beer in the clubhouse.
Sure, says you!
"Chester Arthur is sort of the Mike Piazza (no, not in that way... you're thinking of James Buchanan)"
Ha!
Thanks.
Frank Thomas, chump of the week? And saying 24 is Rickey's number is like saying Wings was Paul McCartney's band.
And if Mike Gallego and a bunch of sub-Mike Gallegos can wear 9 before they finally retire it for Reggie, or a scrub reliever can come in after being dumped in Phladelphia and be given Rollie Fingers number (even if he did become Dave Stewart)....
I'm a Taft fan myself. Anyone who is that fat has to be good for a laugh.
Harrison is pretty tight too. It only took him 3 weeks to make his mark.
Winnable wars are nice for politicians (see Falklands).
And twenty years after Lilburn W. Boggs's Missouri Extermination Order, to boot. It should have been clear by then that Mormons were not an existential threat.
Can someone please start a Madame Tussaud's-style wax museum with sports figures as caricatures of themselves? You know, Wade Boggs pounding 7 beers at once, Manny making a phone call while fielding a ball, etc.
That one could be easily adapted for the Melky Cabrera exhibit, too.
It's because his name's too normal--it just doesn't sound as amusing as "Chester Arthur" or, even better, "Rutherford B. Hayes."
They're waiting until they can perfect the technology that would allow them to depict a thrown chair in midflight.
Thank you for vindicating the reputation of Chester A. Arthur. He was easily the best of the Gilded Age presidents.
WORST. PRESIDENTS. EVAR.:
20th/21st Century Tier:
1.) Woodrow Wilson
2.) Herbert Hoover
3.) John F. Kennedy
4.) Richard Nixon
5.) Jimmy Carter
6.) George W. Bush
HONORABLE MENTION: Franklin D. Roosevelt. (Near-disastrous economically, and mediocre everywhere else. Mere longevity does not make for greatness.)
19th Century Tier:
1.) James Buchanan (the worst of all time)
2.) Andrew Johnson
3.) Ulysses S. Grant
4.) Franklin Pierce
5.) Martin Van Buren
6.) Millard Fillmore
Founding Fathers Tier
1.) John Adams
2.) Thomas Jefferson
3.) James Madison (The father of the Constitution. Shockingly ineffective C-in-C. The Andy Marte of Presidents.)
As a graduate of Chester Arthur's alma mater, I can assure you that a statue of him already exists (fifth from the top).
How about a hologram? That's close enough, no?
Oh yeah, and you guys are total dorks.
But unlike some presidents, he also has a rugged Masonic pyramid commemmorating his birthplace.
Should today's Nationals be unrepresented by a statue? I recommend doing one of Ronnie Belliard.
I recommend Termel Sledge. Those 20 games were magic.
Really? Why? I don't mean this contentiously, I really know why you think so.
Elijah Dukes typing a text message on his phone? Then again, I suppose his heyday was in Tampa Bay.
I'd never heard of this.
Winnable wars are nice for politicians
The 1857 US Army stood a very good chance of getting an a@@kicking in Utah, at least at first. The Mormons weren't the Quakers, after all.
Also, when it came to Presidents of the mid-1800s, Lincoln stands out like Carlton on the '72 Phillies, doesn't he?
yeah, I'd like to know why you ranked the 20th century presidents the way you did myself. Wilson and Carter worse than Bush?
20th/21st Century Tier:
1.) Woodrow Wilson
2.) Herbert Hoover
3.) John F. Kennedy
4.) Richard Nixon
5.) Jimmy Carter
6.) George W. Bush
HONORABLE MENTION: Franklin D. Roosevelt.
That's one interesting mix, Eso. I have a feeling you're going to be stocking up on Prilosec in November no matter who wins. But curiously, you got five of the seven of them right.
Coolidge is the most underrated.
really? I would say he's the most overrated, but worst is a bit much. My rankings:
1) Nixon
2) Hoover
3) Bush
4) Kennedy
5) Reagan
6) Carter
Woodrow Wilson is kind of the unity candidate - he did stuff that all the progressives, all the libertarians, and the 2 conservatives on this site all hate.
Kennedy was President for too short a time, maybe. Consequently, I'm not sure he's among the worst ever. W is President now, and certainly not popular; but do let's let some history go before we put him up there with Nixon and Carter.
sorry, but I think Bush has done enough already to solidify his place on the crap list
Him or Salami.
What about conservative libertarians, or conservatives with a libertarian heart (or whatever you might call folks like that)? But we, um, they, hate Wilson too.
Could be so, just saying he needs to be gone for a little while first.
Jefferson could also be somewhat considered the father of the spoils system - as he more or less purged the federal government of Federalists when he took office.
Jefferson was a man of contradictions... he'd have never made it in politics in the modern era - I guarantee you he'd have been a think tank writer - perhaps verging on think tank crank.
Jefferson wrote a much better game than he acted.
I was always annoyed at how many people thought he was among the best ever. Huh? Anyway, he's definitely the most overrated to me, for the very reasons you state.
Not bad, but I'd move a few things around...
1. Woodrow Wilson - A vile man and a worse president.
2. Jimmy Carter - History's greatest monster.
3. Richard Nixon - He WAS a crook. His appearances as a head in a jar on Futurama brought laughter to millions though.
4. John F. Kennedy - Weak, drugged up and a terrible decision maker. Handsome devil though.
5. George W. Bush - A limited man utterly overwhelmed by his times. Too early to really tell where he belongs, but looks bad.
6. Herbert Hoover - A decent man overrun by events, that he promptly made worse.
I probably should have mentioned -- I wouldn't personally rank him anywhere on a 'worst' list... but I certainly wouldn't have him on any 'best' lists. Without laying them all out and doing an HoM deep dive, I'd probably have him somewhere in the 20s.
Jefferson simply found that his ideology and political philosophy were completely at odds with the reality of the office... that's probably something every President, good/bad, right/left has found.
I think the big issue with Jefferson is that he was a quite distrustful man -- he barely trusted people that agreed with him ideologically, he thought the worst of anyone that didn't agree with him ideologically - and too often, acted according to that distrust.
Coolidge is the champion of the government-doesn't-give-a-####-about-you school of government, from his shameful handling of the Great Mississippi Flood of 1927, to his veto of the Bonus Bill, to his lack of interest in anything relating to workers' rights (such as child labor), to the instability and economic stratification created by his laissez-faire economic policy (which fed right into the Great Depression). And his decision to leave all of Harding's corrupt cronies in office (hey, you voted for 'em!) was disgusting. He did have the good sense to bail on the country right before his whole house of cards collapsed, leaving Hoover stuck with the bag and preserving his own reputation.
He was in many ways a proto-Reagan, though there's some Bush II in there as well.
However, I don't think Harding was ever threatening any "best President" records.
Thank God for Hamilton. He had a greater positive impact on the country than all but a handful of Presidents.
But understand, that my Founding Fathers rankings are on a different scale than the rest. They're all in the Hall of Fame...I'm just trying to establish that they don't belong in the Hall of Merit.
Look, I know conquering drug addiction and coming back to hit all those home runs is impressive, but, really, this has gone too far.
Has it? I know there are a couple months left in the season, but who was the last president to have this good a year?
In all fairness, those bananas were asking for it.
I can think of one, though he's not a US president.
For how long did the fine residents of Vaudeville weather their assaults? Too long, my friend. Too long.
Never knew that.
Never knew that.
Sure you did.
President of two countries, that one
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