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Wednesday, September 05, 2012

San Jose gets tough on A’s move opponents

While San Jose’s hopes for bringing the A’s baseball team to a downtown ballpark remain in limbo, the city is toughening its stance toward opponents of the move from Oakland.

The San Francisco Giants have openly opposed an A’s move into the lucrative Silicon Valley market they claim as their territory. But San Jose officials have argued the Giants also are chief actors behind local efforts to block an A’s downtown ballpark and are moving more aggressively to expose the team’s role.

Last week the city filed for a court order allowing it to examine the organizational structure—and any Giants ties—of Stand For San Jose, a community group whose lawsuit over the proposed ballpark has raised questions about the San Jose plan’s viability.
And in June, city officials threatened to seek higher payment from the Giants’ minor league affiliate for use of San Jose’s Municipal Stadium if the team doesn’t disclose its role in the litigation.

“I think we have a right to know who’s behind Stand for San Jose,” said City Attorney Rick Doyle. “The perception all along is that it’s the Giants who are behind this.”

If that doesn’t work, City Council members may be resort to proclaiming while wearing giant foam fingers, that the Giants are NOT “number one.”

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 05, 2012 at 05:46 PM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: September 05, 2012 at 06:57 PM (#4227664)
Nothing will happen until the city of San Jose starts to move toward a lawsuit against MLB because Bud Selig, who is allegedly the commissioner of baseball, is too wishy-washy to make a decision.
   2. Gamingboy Posted: September 05, 2012 at 07:34 PM (#4227698)
Apparently the inaction is not so much because they don't want the Athletics to just up and move to the Giants territory, so much as they worry that if they allow it without some concessions (sort of like what Angelos got when the Expos moved to DC) then everybody would start trying to move into other baseball hot-beds. The Rays, for example, could then go and try to move to New Jersey or Brooklyn.
   3. Bhaakon Posted: September 05, 2012 at 10:27 PM (#4227792)
Nothing will happen until the city of San Jose starts to move toward a lawsuit against MLB because Bud Selig, who is allegedly the commissioner of baseball, is too wishy-washy to make a decision.


What decision? The rules are pretty clear that the only way forward is for the A's to either come to an agreement with the Giants, who don't seem to want to deal, or get together enough votes among the other owners to override the Giants' territorial rights, which also seems unlikely. Neither one of these involves commissioner fiat.
   4. Danny Posted: September 06, 2012 at 10:59 AM (#4228131)
Apparently the inaction is not so much because they don't want the Athletics to just up and move to the Giants territory, so much as they worry that if they allow it without some concessions (sort of like what Angelos got when the Expos moved to DC) then everybody would start trying to move into other baseball hot-beds. The Rays, for example, could then go and try to move to New Jersey or Brooklyn.

I don't think there's any doubt that there would be some concessions to the Giants, and I don't think moving the Bay Area back to the same condition as all other two-team markets (where the two teams share the exact same territorial rights) sets any precedent for the Rays to move to Brooklyn.

As Bhaakon said, I think the issue is that the Giants refuse to deal. The owners were only able to strike a deal with Angelos because he was willing to negotiate--and, unlike here, that involved a team moving into the Orioles' media market. Selig and the owners may be reluctant to broker a deal without the Giants being at the table.
   5. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: September 06, 2012 at 03:39 PM (#4228525)
What decision? The rules are pretty clear that the only way forward is for the A's to either come to an agreement with the Giants, who don't seem to want to deal, or get together enough votes among the other owners to override the Giants' territorial rights, which also seems unlikely. Neither one of these involves commissioner fiat.



Oh I don't know, maybe he can finally show the results of his "blue ribbon" panel with regards to what they came up with to influence some of the votes from the owners. Otherwise what was the point of the panel?

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