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Sandoval agrees to Red Sox deal, as Boston looks for free agent sweep - CBSSports.com

Heyman is reporting the deal is done. Other media reports say the deal isn’t.

Pablo Sandoval has agreed to to a Red Sox deal, completing what appears to be a stunning free agent double play.

Sandoval will receive close to $100 million for five years, people familiar with the deal say, following news Hanley Ramirez is close to a deal with Boston, as well. The Red Sox were reported by the Boston Globe to have originally offered $95 million, but they may have gone up a bit from there.

Jim Furtado Posted: November 24, 2014 at 10:15 AM | 34 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: free agents, giants, pablo sandoval, red sox

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   1. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 24, 2014 at 10:19 AM (#4848233)
Alex Speier is saying that Sandoval's agent told him that a decision would be made today.
   2. tshipman Posted: November 24, 2014 at 10:24 AM (#4848237)
Thanks for the three rings and the memories, Sandoval.

You were a tough player to watch sometimes, but an easy player to love.
   3. jmurph Posted: November 24, 2014 at 10:27 AM (#4848240)
I don't love either deal, but I guess "only" 5 years is nice. Thought Sandoval might get 6.
   4. villageidiom Posted: November 24, 2014 at 10:41 AM (#4848253)
ESPN confirming a deal is in place.
   5. Davo and his Moose Tacos Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4848276)
Sandoval and Hanley each signed for WAY less money than I thought they'd get--I assumed they'd each be around 6/$150MM.
   6. ursus arctos Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:12 AM (#4848277)
What tshipman said.

I wish him the best of luck in Boston.
   7. thetailor (Brian) Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:25 AM (#4848288)
I also thought they would have gotten more.

They're signing for close to the same amount of $$ and five years -- who would you rather have? I am surprised Hanley didn't get more than Panda, despite age.
   8. Voodoo Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:26 AM (#4848291)
I wonder how this affects the Lester sweepstakes.
   9. Ziggy's screen name Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:32 AM (#4848294)
It doesn't have to effect it at all. Are the wins that Lester would bring still going to be worth more or less than the Red Sox would have to pay him? That's the only question the Red Sox need to answer to decide whether to stay in the hunt.
   10. JJ1986 Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:33 AM (#4848296)
The Red Sox are well prepared for the rules change limiting a team to 9 pitchers on a 25-man roster.
   11. Charles S., looking 4 band-aids instead of dreams Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:47 AM (#4848306)
Of course it doesn't have to affect the Lester sweepstakes, but Cubs fans among others are certainly hoping that it does. Have the Bosox made any statements this year about budgets long and short term?
   12. Shooty would run in but these bone spurs hurt! Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:50 AM (#4848307)
It seems like the Giants might be in on Lester, too. He's going to be a very wealthy dude.
   13. Nasty Nate Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:52 AM (#4848310)
Have the Bosox made any statements this year about budgets long and short term?
They made statements indicating that they would still be having a high payroll, but I don't think they got into specifics.

They have increased their 2015 payroll committments a bunch since July (Craig, Cespedes, Castillo, Uehara, Ramirez and maybe Sandoval). I think they still have some room even after that because of how low they were starting from. They could go higher than their norm for just 2015, and then revert to their normal (still high) payroll level after the contracts of Cespedes, Napoli, and Victorino (and potentially Ortiz) end.
   14. Steve Treder Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:54 AM (#4848311)
On KNBR this morning, they were saying that although this has been reported by a couple of media outlets, it hasn't been confirmed by the Red Sox or by Pablo's agent.

But assuming it's true, as I've said several times, as a Giants' fan I'm not really disappointed. Certainly it's a significant hit in the short run, but that deal is highly likely to be dead weight (sorry) well before it's finished.
   15. TFTIO is Lounging from the flat one Posted: November 24, 2014 at 11:58 AM (#4848316)
I am not a Giants fan, but I grew to love Sandoval watching him play. Go with God, Panda.
   16. Zonk is a Doppleclapper Posted: November 24, 2014 at 12:03 PM (#4848320)
It seems like the Giants might be in on Lester, too. He's going to be a very wealthy dude.


It's odd that Lester seems to be drawing a rumor a day, but I haven't heard a peep about Scherzer from, well, anyone....

I'm not so sure I wouldn't prefer Scherzer to Lester...
   17. Danny Posted: November 24, 2014 at 12:15 PM (#4848340)
Samardzija, Cook, and Punto for Bogaerts?
   18. Famous Original Joe C Posted: November 24, 2014 at 12:20 PM (#4848347)
Samardzija, Cook, and Punto for Bogaerts?


I'll be shocked if Bogaerts moves. Hanley can move to LF, trade Cespedes. You want him back instead?
   19. jingoist Posted: November 24, 2014 at 12:34 PM (#4848363)
I remember, back a number of years ago, when several NBA owners cried in unison; "someone, please help us stop destroying ourselves by giving these ludicrous contracts to our players".

Then regional and national TV deals bailed them out.

Looks like a similar scenario is now underway for the California and the New York/Boston teams in baseball these days.

I only wonder how the Lerners in DC are adjusting to this "new salary reality" as they instruct Rizzo on how to proceed with imminent deals for Zimmermann, Strasburg, Desmond and Harper?

I don't think they sign all these 4; how many will they trade?
   20. Steve Treder Posted: November 24, 2014 at 12:39 PM (#4848368)
This is what they're reporting on CSN Bay Area:

... Giants assistant general manager Bobby Evans made it clear Monday morning that nothing is official yet.

"Just before I got on the line with you, I was back and forth with his agent, and he's vehemently denying the reports," Evans told KNBR 680-AM. "He says that I'll be the first to know whatever Pablo decides to do.

"He promises me Pablo will make a decision today. He's adamant that he has not made a decision yet, and that the reports are inaccurate."

Evans also provided an update on where they stand with Sandoval and his representation:

"We talked to Pablo yesterday and as well as his agent, and just informed them from the beginning that we would stay involved in the bidding up until the end, but ultimately we told him we have a final offer and we want to make it when they are ready to entertain it.

"They have not asked for that final offer. Our assessment of the situation is that Pablo is really trying to decide where he wants to be before he tries to close out a negotiation.

"I have to take the agent at his word and that's all I can do right now."
   21. McCoy Posted: November 24, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4848388)
If you have a final offer then just make it.
   22. toratoratora Posted: November 24, 2014 at 04:20 PM (#4848613)
I only wonder how the Lerners in DC are adjusting to this "new salary reality" as they instruct Rizzo on how to proceed with imminent deals for Zimmermann, Strasburg, Desmond and Harper?

Easily answered.
They're adjusting by suing Angelos for their fair share of MASN swag
   23. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: November 24, 2014 at 04:29 PM (#4848622)
Looks like a similar scenario is now underway for the California and the New York/Boston teams in baseball these days.


Way to sneak that New York reference in there.

Is it the Curtis Granderson deal or the second-base clownage of the 2014 Yankees that you feel are out of acceptable spending limits?
   24. Darren Posted: November 24, 2014 at 04:36 PM (#4848626)
You don't think the Yankees are spending a lot?
   25. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: November 24, 2014 at 04:49 PM (#4848643)
per win? Of course they are, Darren. But they are not the highest-payroll team (and haven't been for a few years now) and blinked on Cano last year.

These are not the 2007-2008 Yankees, who signed the best SP AND the best offensive player on the FA market, and then signed Rod when he opted out.

To some extent, structurally the Yankees have a "salary floor" as they pay big bucks to broken-down players near the end of big contracts. They'll not be a good $/win team for the appreciable future.
   26. TVerik, who wonders what the hell is "Ansky" Posted: November 24, 2014 at 04:50 PM (#4848644)
Also, there's a bizarre Hanley/Beckett Red Sox/Dodgers joke I'm reaching for, but just can't find it.
   27. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: November 24, 2014 at 04:58 PM (#4848649)
Also, there's a bizarre Hanley/Beckett Red Sox/Dodgers joke I'm reaching for, but just can't find it.


Today is the ninth anniversary of the Hanley/Anibal for Lowell/Beckett trade. Not a joke, just an observation.
   28. Darren Posted: November 24, 2014 at 05:11 PM (#4848658)
The Yankees shelled out two $150M contracts last year.
   29. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 24, 2014 at 05:24 PM (#4848665)
Remember the old adage, you can never have too much pitching older third basemen? Me neither, but it might work out.
   30. jmurph Posted: November 24, 2014 at 05:26 PM (#4848669)
Remember the old adage, you can never have too much pitching older third basemen? Me neither, but it might work out.


Adorable. It's like you forgot ARod exists.
   31. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Fred Posted: November 24, 2014 at 06:08 PM (#4848696)

Remember the old adage, you can never have too much pitching older third basemen? Me neither, but it might work out.
The more accurate snark is too many outfielders; if Hanley moves to LF they've got Castillo and Betts to round out the starters, with Cespedes, JBJ (>Pawtucket so not really an issue) and Victorino as a second unit *and* Nava and Craig.
   32. cardsfanboy Posted: November 24, 2014 at 06:25 PM (#4848701)
Sandoval and Hanley each signed for WAY less money than I thought they'd get--I assumed they'd each be around 6/$150MM.


I had Sandoval at 5/100 being a good investment and was assuming his final deal would be 5/115 or 6/130....Hanley I thought would get about the same but maybe with an incentive bonus or an extra year based upon playing time(if they are still able to do that) Hanley if healthy is the greater player, but keeping him in the lineup is a tough thing.

   33. The Yankee Clapper Posted: November 24, 2014 at 06:39 PM (#4848711)
Hanley Ramirez is close to a deal with Boston, as well. The Red Sox were reported by the Boston Globe to have originally offered $95 million, but they may have gone up a bit from there.

Ramirez's deal is being reported as 4 years/$88M with a 5th year vesting option also for $22M. Any word on the vesting conditions?
   34. Roger McDowell spit on me! Posted: November 24, 2014 at 07:26 PM (#4848727)
I'll just chime in with other Giants fans and say thanks for the memories. Hell, I actually saw him catch in a game in person...but I think the Giants can find good use for the money (like on Tomas) and still come out OK.

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