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Thursday, June 26, 2014

Schoenfield: Lincecum still has it, at least against Padres

To be honest, I’m not sure if this says more about Tim Lincecum or the struggling, offensively inept San Diego Padres.

I mean, if you were to grade each no-hitter on a degree of difficulty scale from 1 to 10, factoring in the strength of the opponent, the ballpark and the weather, a no-hitter against the Padres at AT&T Park on a gray, hazy day would have to be a 1.

Still ... a no-hitter is a no-hitter, they’re always fun and there’s always a good story behind each one. Retiring 27 major league hitters without giving up a hit is a terrific accomplishment, even if no-hitters have become more prevalent in recent seasons and even if this one came against one of the worst offensive teams (maybe the worst) in modern history.

Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: June 26, 2014 at 08:54 AM | 5 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: no hitters, san francisco giants, tim lincecum

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   1. dr. scott Posted: June 26, 2014 at 01:12 PM (#4736392)
Retiring 27 major league hitters without giving up a hit is a terrific accomplishment, even if no-hitters have become more prevalent in recent seasons and even if this one came against one of the worst offensive teams (maybe the worst) in modern history.


padres got their hits for the year (20) in the previous two games against the giants... All Star break cant come soon enough.
   2. bobm Posted: June 27, 2014 at 12:26 AM (#4737193)
FTFA:

Heading into the ninth, the no-hitter seemed inevitable considering the Padres entered the game hitting .216 as a team with a .275 OBP. If that holds, the only team with a lower average would be the 1968 Yankees, who hit .214. The Pads' OBP would be the lowest since 1920. Still, no-hitters are tough to finish off:

David Schoenfield @dschoenfield
Has anybody ever done a study on what percentage of no-hitters taken into the ninth are finished off?

James Smyth @JamesSmyth621
This is a great site. It's about 50-50 starting 9th, 60-65% chance after 1 out, almost 80% with 2 out http://milkeespress.com/lostninth.html @dschoenfield


Also worth a read for perspective:

Jaffe: "The 10 worst lineups ever no-hit" thread at BBTF
Jaffe: "The 10 worst lineups ever no-hit" full article at Hardball Times
   3. base ball chick Posted: June 27, 2014 at 10:38 AM (#4737339)
i'm tired of folks disrespecting lincecum for no hitting the crappy padres. if it is so damm easy, why aren't all the ACE pitchers doing it too?

no one groused about bud smith. or phil humber. or even armando galaraggha (yeah, i know about the stupid call)

and why weren't there a LOT more nonos vs the AAAAstros over the past 5 years? didn't nobody sneer at matt cain and say that some collitch pitchah coulda done that too. or even that 17 year old FEMALE knuckleballer

this is such garbage. even throwing a SHUTOUT is tough - in fact, the astros got shut out more in 05 when they went to the WS than they did after they fielded lineups with no ML quality hitters

   4. Martin Hemner Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:10 AM (#4737366)
no one groused about bud smith. or phil humber. or even armando galaraggha (yeah, i know about the stupid call)

I think your point is correct, but they did grouse about this one:

Eric Milton
   5. base ball chick Posted: June 27, 2014 at 11:37 AM (#4737379)
i figure it's like this

some days, a pitcher is just ON got every single pitch working and balls are hit right at defenders for easy outs. no dishonest ball/strike calls, no screwups bu the umps on the bases. you just can't hit THAT

some days, kerry wood throws shtt can't the best hitting team in baseball get a bat on (and yes i know they had a couple bench guys in the lineup)

it's baseball and youneverknow

but that is NO reason to disrespect a pitcher for his accomplishment, especially if the complaint does not involve umps calling strikes that are not strikes or screwups by umps on balls in play.

roll eyes
i have read comments by guys screaming that bud black MUST be fired because lincecum no hit the padres twice within 12 months and this is therefore bud black's fault because he didn't "lead" (like, say, jeter does) and/or because he didn't insist that the hitters "prepare" for the guy that no hit them a year ago. no i am not kidding. i am still not getting how a HOF manager would make bad hitters into good hitters by "leadership" - except in the movies



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