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Monday, May 05, 2014

Seaver’s Double Duty for the White Sox

Thirty years ago, when the old Comiskey Park stood across the street, a different White Sox manager also ran out of relievers. But Tony La Russa had a better option, one of history’s greatest starting pitchers, who was ordered to put down his crossword puzzle, get dressed and win the longest game — by time — in the history of Major League Baseball.

The game, between the White Sox and the Milwaukee Brewers, began on May 8, 1984. After 17 innings, it was suspended under an American League curfew rule that existed at the time. It resumed the next day, before a regularly scheduled game. Harold Baines won it for the White Sox, 7-6, with a homer in the bottom of the 25th inning.

The winning pitcher was Tom Seaver, a future Hall of Famer who started the day with 274 career wins and ended it with 276. That’s right: Seaver finished the first game in relief and then started the second game, working eight and a third innings to win again, 5-4.

HMS Moses Taylor Posted: May 05, 2014 at 12:09 PM | 37 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:08 PM (#4700437)
You people are idiots. This is an awesome well written story by Mr. Kepnner but since its not about ######### radio guys or race or posted by ####### repoz nobody is interested? Its the best baseball reporting of the year. Oh I forgot Im on huffingtingfurtadopost.
   2. mathesond Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:17 PM (#4700446)
How could you have forgotten where you were?
   3. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4700455)
Great stuff.

I liked this:

Seaver still did. He played catch briefly in front of the home dugout, took the mound again and lasted into the ninth, coming out after Yount homered with one out. The White Sox held on to win, 5-4.

...

It was a quirky day all around. Seaver finished his career with 3,640 strikeouts, a total that is now sixth on the career list, but he had none that day. The two wins are the only ones among the 311 in his career in which he did not strike out a batter.
   4. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:34 PM (#4700459)
Yeah. Why would I expect a baseball discussion. The interest in Mike and Mike or Douche and Repoz has blinded me.
   5. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:35 PM (#4700463)
By the way, Eric J. is probably cursing out Keppner for jumping the damn gun.

The interest in Mike and Mike or Douche and Repoz has blinded me.

Hey, there's a thread where people are comparing baseball teams and players to a bunch of made-up words - that's got to count for almost something.

   6. BDC Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:41 PM (#4700471)
Not to discuss baseball or anything, but I just read Jerry Reuss's memoir Bring in the Righthander, and it recounts a similar story. On 18 August 1982, Reuss took over a suspended game from the day before (Dodgers at Cubs), and threw four innings to win it, then started the regular game and threw five to win that one, too: like Seaver he pitched about nine innings total on the day. Very cool.
   7. Dag Nabbit is part of the zombie horde Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4700476)
The all-time king of the White Sox double duty game is Wilbur Wood. I wrote about it here.
   8. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:46 PM (#4700477)
This was my other favorite nugget:

The White Sox nearly won the game the next inning, when Paciorek singled to deep center with one out and one on. The third-base coach, Jim Leyland, tried to hold up the base runner, Dave Stegman. The two collided, and Stegman was out.

“In all my career — and I worked, including the minor leagues, for over 30 years — I had never had a coach assist,” Evans, the plate umpire, said. “If a third-base or first-base coach physically assists a runner in going back to a base, or moving forward to the next one, it is coach’s interference.”

Naturally, the next batter, Vance Law, singled. But with Stegman out on the interference call, the hit did not score a run.


The only coach-assist infraction in the guy's career likely keeps the winning run from scoring in a game that ends up goes 25 innings. I love that.
   9. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:48 PM (#4700480)
You people are idiots. This is an awesome well written story by Mr. Kepnner but since its not about ######### radio guys or race or posted by ####### repoz nobody is interested? Its the best baseball reporting of the year. Oh I forgot Im on huffingtingfurtadopost.


Thanks for getting the thread off to a good start with an interesting discussion of the article.

And yes, the article is fantastic.
   10. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 01:56 PM (#4700486)
Well you cant discuss actual baseball here without saying something inflamatory.

I loved the Connies Pizza angle and Picioriak going to bat with sauce on his jersey.
   11. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 02:00 PM (#4700491)
And the "playing catch in front of the dugout" before pitching was realy early century cool.
   12. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: May 05, 2014 at 02:11 PM (#4700499)
You should've worked ACA into the headline, you dope.
   13. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 02:24 PM (#4700506)
By the way SoSH, ive scores over 1500 games and more but never recorded coaches interference.
   14. Accent Shallow Posted: May 05, 2014 at 02:50 PM (#4700525)

This was my other favorite nugget:

The White Sox nearly won the game the next inning, when Paciorek singled to deep center with one out and one on. The third-base coach, Jim Leyland, tried to hold up the base runner, Dave Stegman. The two collided, and Stegman was out.

“In all my career — and I worked, including the minor leagues, for over 30 years — I had never had a coach assist,” Evans, the plate umpire, said. “If a third-base or first-base coach physically assists a runner in going back to a base, or moving forward to the next one, it is coach’s interference.”

Naturally, the next batter, Vance Law, singled. But with Stegman out on the interference call, the hit did not score a run.

The only coach-assist infraction in the guy's career likely keeps the winning run from scoring in a game that ends up goes 25 innings. I love that.


I was going to highlight this as well.
   15. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 02:58 PM (#4700527)
There is so much awesome in this article. 25 innings. Seaver being a ninny about relieving. Picoiak setting a record for most hits my a nonstarter. 6 HOFers....
   16. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: May 05, 2014 at 03:01 PM (#4700529)
I also loved how excited Tom Seaver - Tom Seaver _ was about getting two wins in the same day.
   17. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 03:08 PM (#4700536)
Yes, SoSH,

The conversarion with his wife was very touching on many levels. There was tenderness, devotion and lots of sort of schoolboy. It was cool.
   18. Howie Menckel Posted: May 05, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4700546)
Nancy Seaver still had her fastball at that time, too, as I recall.
   19. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 05, 2014 at 03:32 PM (#4700552)
Well good for Tom he was looking old in those silly Sox unis.
   20. deputydrew Posted: May 05, 2014 at 03:53 PM (#4700572)
Great read. Only thing it was missing was more photos.
   21. dejarouehg Posted: May 05, 2014 at 05:00 PM (#4700610)
Great read. Only thing it was missing was more photos.
So true, but the picture they had was classic Seaver, even at that age, dragging the right knee. I wish they had him on the pitcher GIF site.
   22. asinwreck Posted: May 05, 2014 at 06:02 PM (#4700669)
Tom Paciorek was not one of the heavier players on the '84 roster, so I was amused he was the guy caught with a face full of pizza.

That was a long game, and Seaver's two wins in one day was the highlight of a disappointing season (as his 300th win would be for 1985's equally disappointing team).
   23. haggard Posted: May 05, 2014 at 06:51 PM (#4700689)
Aren't we supposed to point out how stupid he was for caring about wins?
   24. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:28 PM (#4700707)
What a fun piece
   25. Misirlou's been working for the drug squad Posted: May 05, 2014 at 07:54 PM (#4700729)
I laminated the box score of the game from the Trib, and I still have it.
   26. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4700752)
I'm sure I've said this before, but I was at the first game, until they made us all go home at 1 a.m. As college students, we would have been perfectly willing to stay all night. Unfortunately, we couldn't go back the next night.
   27. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 05, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4700753)
as someone who watched each of those games in their entirety the whole experience stunk
   28. MNB Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:14 AM (#4700982)
I saw Kevin Gausman try and do this at LSU against Stonybrook 2012 in a CWS Super Regional. He pitched the 10th inning of a game that had been stopped the day before due to rain. LSU won in the bottom half of the inning. Then, he came back to start the next game about thirty minutes later. He pitched well but the team didn't score any runs so he got the loss.
   29. Russ Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:26 AM (#4700990)
as someone who watched each of those games in their entirety the whole experience stunk


So based on on the average length of games, that was basically the equivalent of watching 4 games in about 26 hours? That's insane.
   30. GregD Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:49 AM (#4701008)
My memory is that Rudy Law had a funny quote that by the 14th or 15th inning he was wishing he had struck out in the ninth so he could be at home asleep.
   31. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 06, 2014 at 09:52 AM (#4701012)
of all the craziness the sox tying it up in teh bottom of hte 21st was the topper
   32. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 06, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4701104)
I'm totally loving that a) Tom was at the "beginning" of this and b) Harveys watched all of it. Its so awesome. There is never too little baseball. I love it when the baseball schedule has an afternoon game (frequently the Cubs of course), then catch the Brewers at 7, and finish the night with some bourbon and a late west coast game. That is the beauty of summer.
   33. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: May 06, 2014 at 11:34 AM (#4701125)
jack

once you have invested that amount of time you have to finish

it's like being married forever. like a bad movie. you have to hang around and see how it plays out
   34. base ball chick Posted: May 06, 2014 at 12:35 PM (#4701185)
the astros had a lot of extra inning games in 04/05

i can remember that roy oswalt went in to relieve a few times - in fact, he got his 20th W on a relief job. then again, i remember he got one of his L as well thank you NOT Uncle albert (jeezus that *&*(%^&#@! KILLLED mah team back then)

andy pettitte also had a L in relief

best extra inning relief by a starter was definitely Da Rojah's 3 innings in the 18 inning NLDS playoff vs atlanta game in 05

- and bunny
jeez, give the guys time to get the usual griping over with before moving on to something like actual baseball
   35. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 06, 2014 at 12:45 PM (#4701191)
I remember being a teenager and playing golf in the morning. I had lunch with my Grandparents at Nortons after my round and watched the first three or four innings of the Cubs game. I got a call at the restaurant (phone brought to the table old school) and it was my friend who's dad had the food service contract for Ripon College. He needed an extra body so what the hell. I worked for five hours or so and came home to watch innings 18-22.
   36. Jesse Barfield's Right Arm Posted: May 06, 2014 at 12:48 PM (#4701194)
As college students, we would have been perfectly willing to stay all night. Unfortunately, we couldn't go back the next night.

So true of many college experiences.

Too young to have been at this one, but I'd love to see a story in 40 years on the White Sox double-header last summer. It came on the heels of the Blackhawks parade, and featured all sorts of rain delays and craziness, including 29 runs in the first game, and the Sox giving up 4 in the top of the 9th in Game 2 to lose by a run.

Ended up as one of 5 people I gather in the upper decks, and would wander around from section to section talking to the other crazies. Was also at the beginning (but, alas not the end) of the Mitch Williams 4 a.m. walkoff.

Baseball rules.
   37. Bunny Vincennes Posted: May 06, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4701199)
Doug Dascenzo may have pitched in that game. I very much remeber him pitching against the Mets in a blowout.

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