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Saturday, September 04, 2010

Seligman: Zambrano, Castro lead Cubs over Mets 5-3

Castro delivered again at the plate, raising his average to .321. He doubled and singled, scored a run and stole a base. It’s not clear exactly how long it had been since a Cubs rookie had six straight multi-hit games, since STATS Inc.’s records on that only go back to 1952.

I’m pretty sure we can deliver this little factoid.

McCoy Posted: September 04, 2010 at 08:46 PM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. McCoy Posted: September 05, 2010 at 05:58 AM (#3633735)
They ended up updating the story and the Cubs supplied the answer. The original Sonny Crockett owns the record. He he had 6 multi-hit games in 1944 but still no word on who has the record for most consecutive multi-hit games for a Cub rookie and to be totally technical Castro got his 6 game streak in his very first year while Johnson got his in his second year.

I've found a few players with 5 multi-hit games but so far I haven't found anyone that topped the 6 game mark.

As for Castro, it is really surprising that we haven't heard more about him this year. A rookie SS doing as well as him should be getting a lot more coverage. Is there really anyone else in the NL that deserves the RoY more than Castro at this point? Ok, besides Heyward. I still don't think he'll get it. And WAR does not like Castro or at least BRef's version of WAR which I am not buying.
   2. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: September 05, 2010 at 06:23 AM (#3633742)
Jaime Garcia is 13-6 with a 2.35 ERA.
   3. Walt Davis Posted: September 05, 2010 at 06:35 AM (#3633745)
B-ref hates Castro's defense (-14) which, given all the errors, is within the realm of reason. Fangraphs puts him at average. Dial hasn't posted an update in over a month but had him at -10.
   4. Lassus Posted: September 05, 2010 at 09:39 AM (#3633760)
What is (and who has) the MLB record for consecutive multi-hit games?
   5. Dan Contilli Posted: September 05, 2010 at 01:14 PM (#3633777)
Castro's errors have not only been frequent, but costly, and have led directly to losses in a few occasions. It's like he's the opposite of Bill James' George Bell arbitration argument. He's 20, and I'm sure he'll improve, but his value has definitely been tempered by his mistakes in the field. Seriously though, it's like he's turned into Tony Gwynn in the last two months. It's been really fun to watch. The Cubs haven't produced an offensive player through their own system this effective since at least Mark Grace or Rafael Palmeiro.
   6. Misirlou's got a busy day, he's wearing a vest Posted: September 05, 2010 at 01:25 PM (#3633779)
B-ref hates Castro's defense (-14) which, given all the errors, is within the realm of reason.


Ian Desmond has 31 errors but only -4 fielding runs, so it's more than that.
   7. John DiFool2 Posted: September 05, 2010 at 02:57 PM (#3633805)
The Cubs haven't produced an offensive player through their own system this effective since at least Mark Grace or Rafael Palmeiro.


Soto's having a fine comeback season, so don't forget about him, tho the huge age gap means Castro has a definite chance to develop into something amazing. Aramis is also on that list (not this year tho).
   8. Slivers of Maranville (SdeB) Posted: September 05, 2010 at 03:04 PM (#3633810)
Aramis came up as a Pirate.
   9. McCoy Posted: September 05, 2010 at 04:49 PM (#3633865)
Plus BRef isn't all that impressed with Castro's offense either. That could be because BRef uses last year's park factor while fangraphs uses an updated one. BRef views Castro as a 4 run offensive producer while Fangraphs sees him as a 6.1 run offensive producer. Fangraphs gives him 19 runs for positional replacement while BRef gives him 17 runs. But of course the biggest difference is that BRef views him as a -15 run fielder while Fangraphs sees him as a -1.5 fielder. So in fangraphs' eye Castro is a 2.4 WAR player while in BRef's eye he is a .6 WAR player. That is a pretty big split.
   10. McCoy Posted: September 05, 2010 at 04:51 PM (#3633866)
The Cubs haven't produced an offensive player through their own system this effective since at least Mark Grace or Rafael Palmeiro.

Pretty much every single player that puts together a season with a batting average above the Mendoza line gets this said about them.
   11. Andere Richtingen Posted: September 05, 2010 at 05:29 PM (#3633891)
If Soto can put together one more full season on par with his rookie season and this one, then I'm willing to call the Curse of Cindy Sandberg broken.
   12. McCoy Posted: September 05, 2010 at 05:45 PM (#3633897)
They found a cure for herpes?
   13. Lassus Posted: September 05, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3633940)
Hmmm... ok, could someone tell me for the baseball-reference era, if possible, the best way to get the leaderboard for consecutive multi-hit games?
   14. bobm Posted: September 05, 2010 at 07:28 PM (#3633947)
[4]
What is (and who has) the MLB record for consecutive multi-hit games?


From BB-REF streak finder:

13 games, Rogers Hornsby (7/5/1923-7/18/1923)

Post WWII:

Tony Perez       8/8/1973 8/20/1973 11 games
Bob Nieman       5/4/1958 5/22/1958 10
Rip Repulski    6/13/1954 6/24/1954 10
Rich Dauer      7/18/1978 7/28/1978 10
Bernie Williams  8/9/2002 8/20/2002 10
Chuck Knoblauch 6/29/1996 7/11/1996 10
   15. Lassus Posted: September 05, 2010 at 07:32 PM (#3633950)
Thanks, bobm. Bernie Wiliiams isn't too much of a shock there, I guess.

Man, this definitely highlights the oft-repeated truism about how baseball is a game of failure.
   16. John DiFool2 Posted: September 05, 2010 at 08:12 PM (#3633993)
Sorry, Aramis they got in a trade (tho he developed with the Cubs).
   17. McCoy Posted: September 06, 2010 at 04:42 AM (#3634189)
Defensively you could say Aramis developed with the Cubs but offensively he developed in Pittsburgh.

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