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1. Dewey, Steven Wright Wannabe and Soupuss Posted: June 04, 2009 at 02:15 PM (#3206162)Otherwise, they can shut the hell up.
That's why I thank god Scott Podsednik is my team's centerfielder.
Somehow he's got everyone convinced that a .286/.331/.366 line is really good, though, so I'm sure he'll be in center field if and when Quentin comes back.
5/28 97
5/29 85
5/31 164
5/31 121 (four hours later!)
6/1 125
6/2 119
And that's by a girl. What is wrong with players these days, bah! Humbug!
PA tOPS+1 90
2 94
3+ 119
Innings show the same pattern. Only 28 games with pitch counts, so nothing to see there.
KNBR's pretty good about putting stuff up on their website.
http://www.knbr.com/common/global_audio/201/8275.mp3
PA
1 .246/.314/.361 .675
2 .255/.310/.384 .694
3 .284/.348/.435 .783
Same for by innings.
Also worth noting. Seems like he was worked hard only one year. And his arm seems to have fallen off after that.
And in his 20 win season he had an ERA of 6.00 from the 7th inning on (though that looks like a clustering issue. He seems to have given up a lot more runs than you'd expect from raw stats. Bullpen sabotage?)
All in all he looks like an odd choice of a guy to bring up.
What in the world does this mean? OK, I get the first part and am not interested in debating that. But Hinch loses respect for pulling pitchers early -- when every manager is doing it? I'm not sure I know what making an impression in this division means.
I don't know how many 150 pitch starts Krukow had. I do know that he had only 3 seasons with over 200 IP, only one of those over 210. He pitched in a 5-man rotation his entire career. He averaged 6.1 innings per start. Basically, those are Jeff Suppan numbers.
In his defense, he did have three seasons with a lot of complete games by today's standards -- 6, 7 and 10.
He started off by saying he thought the third and fourth times through the batting order was what makes a pitcher and that while he disagrees he does understand there is so much money in these young arms, there's a premium on pitching and it's an investment.
He also said that his biggest issue was that a raw number doesn't mean anything and that it's better to rely on a pitcher's stuff as a reference to whether he is being tired. He said that a pitcher with bad mechanics can hurt their arm in 30 pitches while a pitcher with good mechanics could throw up to 150 and be fine.
He also said the most he ever threw was around 150.
I don't agree with everything he says but it was much more well thought out than I'm a manly man these kids are wussies pitch counts bad, which is the axe Jenkins is grinding while using a popular well respected local analyst as cover.
1) Pitching is hard; guys get hurt.
2) Major league pitchers are million-dollar investments.
3) When million-dollar investments go down the toilet, there's hell to pay.
4) "Don't blame me, boss, he was within his pitch count!"
Billy Martin's career offers an interesting look into the dilema. He was so effective in the short term, but look at what happened to his front-line starters. The only one I can think of who had any substantial value (after the initial success under Martin. Don't get me wrong, an awful lot of pitchers had great years under him) after Martin was Jim Kaat. (and you can argue Kaat. A rough 3 years after Martin, followed by two of his best years when he was worked very hard. Followed by a lengthy decline phase)
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