Hopefully he can get it back together. The yips are bad, bad news.

They batted around in the first inning, and they did so without getting an official at-bat (seven walks, two sacrifice flies).

Has this ever been done in the regular season before? I can't find anything.

I like how Jenkins details the history of Sasser, Knoblauch, Sax, Ankiel and Blass before writing:

Nobody's putting Lowry in that category, not by a longshot.

Well, you kind of are, or at least comparing him to the early struggles of all these players.

An interesting question is if someone has ever really had the yips and did come back from it.

Noah Lowry never did get his mind right. Nearly two hours after the most disturbing performance of his life, he still wasn’t up to addressing the media. Giants pitching coach Dave Righetti didn’t feel much like talking, either

What we have here, is failure to communicate.

An interesting question is if someone has ever really had the yips and did come back from it.

Didn't Wohlers go through this and kind of/sort of come back from it?

I may have my facts wrong, but I will try and recall this story as best I can. It was interview with a Braves coach in an article about Dale Murphy. Murphy came up through the Braves system as a catcher and developed something similar to Sasser in spring training one year (forget which year). He was moved to 1B and eventually the OF.

Come to think of it, Knoblauch and Sax continued to play after getting the yips. They just couldn't play 2nd and ended up in the OF. I would also say that Ankiel has recovered from it as well. Joe Cowley on the other hand..........

What is is about the Giants and young pitchers? Foppert, Ainsworth, Williams, now Lowry? Time to sell high on Cain and Lincecum, kids...

Zito, now there's a keeper.

Just to be annoying
Steve Blass 1972- 117/84 K/BB in 250 ip, next year completely lost all effectiveness

Noah Lowry 2007, 87/87 K/BB in 156 ip

Basically in 2007 Lowry gave up only 12 homers and batters hit .237/.316/.338 against him with men on (.293/.407/.448 with bases empty- his career splits are NOTHING like that)

2008? Unless Lowry was hiding an injury and is healthy now, I see two possible outcomes, Steve Blass 1973 or Jose Lima 2005

either way it's going to be ugly

The Giants should have traded Lowry away in November. Idiots.

The Giants should have traded Lowry away in November. Idiots.

Yeah, it should have been obvious that he would start walking seven people an inning, just like it's obvious now that his career is over and he should be waived immediately. Get over yourself.

They batted around in the first inning, and they did so without getting an official at-bat (seven walks, two sacrifice flies).

okay, I didn't see this game(did anyone?), but what on earth were Righetti/Bochy doing leaving him in? Yeah, its only spring training and you want a guy to build up his arm, but when he's come down with a case of the yips don't you want him out of there as soon as possible?

what on earth were Righetti/Bochy doing leaving him in? Yeah, its only spring training and you want a guy to build up his arm, but when he's come down with a case of the yips don't you want him out of there as soon as possible?

Yeah, that seems curious to me as well. I mean, c'mon, pull the guy after five walks or something. I've heard of fraternity hazings that were less vicious than this.

Yeah, it should have been obvious that he would start walking seven people an inning, just like it's obvious now that his career is over and he should be waived immediately. Get over yourself.

Dude, I've been saying for months that they needed to trade him. His peripherals are awful but he had a superficially good ERA and won-loss record and the Giants are deep in young pitching and are starved for young position players. Trading Noah Lowry was the most obvious move for them to make. I knew it. My cat knew it. The grass my cat likes to chew to keep himself from farting too much knew it. I'm sorry it passed your notice, though.

The grass my cat likes to chew to keep himself from farting too much knew it.

Grass that prevents cats from farting > Brian Sabean.

The Giants should have traded Lowry away in November. Idiots.

Which idiot GM would have been interested in him? Even mainstream writers in the SF papers were pointing to his ugly "peripherals".

Furthermore, he ended 2007 abruptly, as a "precaution".

An interesting question is if someone has ever really had the yips and did come back from it.

I don't think changing positions (or trading in your pitching career for a hitting career) really counts as "overcoming" it. Wohlers, kinda. Did Zack Greinke have the yips, or just the sucks? I think it was both, or at least after he was sent back down to the minors, his minor league performance for a while there was yippy. But someone here surely knows.

Grass that prevents cats from farting > Brian Sabean.

Sabean is dumber than ten farting cats

An interesting question is if someone has ever really had the yips and did come back from it.

Juan Guzman?

Which idiot GM would have been interested in him? Even mainstream writers in the SF papers were pointing to his ugly "peripherals".

Good point. They really should have dealt him before the trading deadline last year (something else I advocated). Still, I have trouble believing all 29 teams are smart enough to turn their backs on a pitcher with 14 wins and a sub 4.00 era.

And notice, I didn't call Brian Sabean and idiot, I called the organization idiots which is something you say in a moment of frustration directed at an institution. Congress? idiots! Sabean has done some good work in the past which makes many of his moves in recent years all the more frustrating. What happened to the guy with the balls to trade Matt Williams? The guy who went out and got Jason Schmidt for next to nothing and then was smart enough to fight off the Mariners and resign him? I miss the old Brian Sabean.

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I think it's a matter of just what they want in return in a trade. Sure, there will be teams willing to take a chance on him, if they don't have to give up much in return.

But, I doubt that the Giants want another Rajai Davis type prospect in return for Lowry. His contract is not onerous: ~$7M over the next 2 years.

Would it be worth it for the Giants to just dump him, and take whatever they can get?

Would it be worth it for the Giants to just dump him, and take whatever they can get?

Not now, but I think it would have been worth rolling the dice on a couple B level prospects earlier in the offseason. Lowry just doesn't help the Giants. They need to see what Correia and Sanchez can do now so they can plan for their next competitive team. I give Sabean a lot of credit for moving Morris, but he did only half the job. And this offseason has been a near disaster. I have very little excitement for the Giants this year. The young pitching is all I'm looking forward to. The A's take a lot of crap here for having a non-entertaining team--and some of that is justified, I think--but they are a freakin laser light show compared to what the Giants are trotting out there this year. It's very possible I'm being overly pessimistic, though. That pitching gives the team a puncher's chance. Stranger things have happened.

Not now, but I think it would have been worth rolling the dice on a couple B level prospects earlier in the offseason. Lowry just doesn't help the Giants.

Well, the thing is, would it have been possible for them to get a couple B level prospects in return, earlier in the offseason, using Sickels' definition of B level? Given Lowry's ugly K / BB rates, K / BB rates that have progressively gotten worse the last 2 years, his various niggling injury issues the last several years? For comparison, Sickels rated Villalona a B+, Tim Alderson a B, Nate Schierholtz a B-.

Lowry just doesn't help the Giants. They need to see what Correia and Sanchez can do now so they can plan for their next competitive team.

As it is, Correia is going to start.

Well, the thing is, would it have been possible for them to get a couple B level prospects in return, earlier in the offseason, using Sickels' definition of B level? Given Lowry's ugly K / BB rates, K / BB rates that have progressively gotten worse the last 2 years, his various niggling injury issues the last several years? For comparison, Sickels rated Villalona a B+, Tim Alderson a B.

I guess this is the question. I would have settled for a B and a C+, or a C+ and maybe 1/2 of a 3rd base platoon. Something, anything that could help the team. I think they could have got something for him. I absolutely do. He was good as recently as 2005 and for most baseball teams that's usually enough to make them think a player can do it again.

An interesting question is if someone has ever really had the yips and did come back from it.

Wohlers as has been mentioned, Bruce Ruffin, and John Burke. Don't believe anyone else has ever really made it 'back'.