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Sunday, September 26, 2010

SF Gate: Willie Mays, the interview

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Q: You had great numbers, but you weren’t a number guy. Here’s an example of that: You hit a ball in the gap, most people go for a double. In a key situation, with Willie McCovey on deck, you’ll stay at first base so they don’t take the bat out of Willie’s hands. True story?

A: I did that a lot; I did that a lot. ... I wanted Mac to hit all the time. So if I hit a ball in the gap that might be a triple or double or something, but I wouldn’t go, I’d let him hit. In San Diego one day, Clyde King says, ““Why don’t you go to second?” Well I said, “I want Mac to hit.” So the next time Mac comes up, he hits the scoreboard in San Diego, that’s way out there. He knocks in three runs.

Q: What about the steroids? What do we make of this era?

A: I’ve never seen (Barry Bonds) do anything. And I’ve said this many times: I don’t know. That’s why I don’t like to get involved because I might say something wrong.

So what you’re saying, I think, is that when his time comes to go into the Hall of Fame, will he get in? I say yes.

Repoz Posted: September 26, 2010 at 04:42 AM | 6 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 26, 2010 at 07:33 AM (#3648625)
Darryl Strawberry once had a double, triple and HR in a game, then got a late long hit, and the first base coach was waving at him to stop at first base for the cycle. (Strawberry ran through the sign and glided into second.) That's about the only time I ever heard of this "strategy" being seriously considered, and it certainly wasn't to keep the bat in Kevin McReynolds' hands.

Found the game.
   2. The District Attorney Posted: September 26, 2010 at 08:39 AM (#3648632)
In Strat-O-Matic, whenever the offense tries to go 1st-to-3rd on a single and the defense chooses to throw to 3rd, the batter-runner advances to 2nd. I had Barry Bonds in 2004 when he was a force of nature (362/609/812), and I became reluctant to ever attempt 1st-to-3rd when Bonds was due up later in the inning, because it would likely mean (assuming the defense tried to make the play) that Bonds would get walked.

So, I can kind of see passing up a double in that sense. However, McCovey, as great as he was, was never Bonds 2004. Unless Hal Lanier hit fifth, I can't imagine it would be a sensible play. (It also seems super-counterproductive to pass up a triple.)
   3. Flynn Posted: September 26, 2010 at 11:32 AM (#3648645)
Mac's 1969 and 1970 were 1 and 3 on the list of IBBs before post-2001 Bonds (1993 Bonds was 2), so it certainly makes sense that Mays thought going to 2nd would take the bat out of Mac's hands, and Mac hit 448/634 those two seasons for a 194 OPS+.
   4. TomH Posted: September 26, 2010 at 03:23 PM (#3648702)
by 1969-70, Mays was not the speedster, being 38-39 years old. He hit 30 DO and 12 TR a year when young, but was at 16-3 later on. Was he always staying at first? :)
   5. Jose Canusee Posted: September 27, 2010 at 04:26 PM (#3649514)
To do it in SD, has to be 1969-71, Giants behind in the 7th inning or later, Mac hits HR with Mays on base.
4/12/69 8th inn drove in Bonds
4/13 solo HR
5/12/70 solo HR

That's it for Mac HR's in SD. So if it happened it wasn't in SD. Kind of a joyless exercise, like finding out that grandpa didn't really fly a B-24 in WW2.
   6. neilsen Posted: September 27, 2010 at 05:11 PM (#3649559)
I first read about Mays holding on 1st when McCovey was up in the book "Willie's Time". I have no doubt Mays did implement this strategy sometimes, but doubt it was as often as Mays remembers. His 74% XBT in 1970 was the best in the National league - not bad for an aging speedster that was 39 years old.

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