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Thursday, January 03, 2013

SF GIANTS’ ROMO BUSTED At Vegas Airport

Law enforcement sources tell us, the San Francisco Giants pitcher was detained by cops because he couldn’t provide the proper ID to clear security.

We’re told Romo then got into it with a TSA agent—becoming “angry and aggressive.”  Cops then swooped in and cuffed him.

Romo was taken to the police station at the airport , where he was cited for violating airport rules and then released. Romo was not allowed to fly following the incident, and was subsequently escorted off airport grounds.

According to law enforcement sources, Romo appeared to be under the influence.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: January 03, 2013 at 06:03 PM | 62 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. catomi01 Posted: January 03, 2013 at 10:38 PM (#4338537)
I'd find it mildly amusing if he ended up on a no fly list and had to take the train or bus on every road trip while his teammates fly.
   2. Dale Sams Posted: January 03, 2013 at 10:52 PM (#4338543)
How does that work with private planes? TSA inspects every flight?
   3. ajnrules Posted: January 03, 2013 at 11:45 PM (#4338585)
You mean I missed this spectacle by a day? What a shame.
   4. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:52 AM (#4338650)
I've flown without ID in the last few years. But then, I'm white.
   5. Tripon Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:57 AM (#4338653)
Romo apologized, btw.
   6. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:06 AM (#4338660)
wrong thread.
   7. puck Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:10 AM (#4338662)
I've flown without ID in the last few years. But then, I'm white.

Did the TSA person ask for your ID at all? If so, what did they do, just let you go through?
   8. The Yankee Clapper Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:40 AM (#4338676)
We’re told Romo then got into it with a TSA agent—becoming “angry and aggressive.” 

Could be worse. A lot worse.
   9. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:42 AM (#4338678)
Did the TSA person ask for your ID at all? If so, what did they do, just let you go through?


Yes, I said that I didn't have it on me. At the time I thought I had lost my wallet. He was frustrated, but let me go through. This happened on a Connecticut to Minnesota flight, I'm not sure if that makes the difference. Of course, when I got home I found my wallet in my other pair of pants.
   10. valuearbitrageur Posted: January 04, 2013 at 03:02 AM (#4338709)
I haven't heard Romo's explanation, but since it's the TSA I believe him.
   11. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: January 04, 2013 at 10:55 AM (#4338818)
Romo should deny it was him, since whoever was arrested didn't have any ID. It would probably involve sanding off his fingerprints though.
   12. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:00 AM (#4338821)
Just out of curiosity...how do incidents like these hit the news wires? Did the TSA agent call someone? How do they know who to call? I've always been puzzled about how things like DUI's for a utility infielder no one has though about in 30 years and such make the wires.

edit: Also, I guess what happens in Vegas doesn't not necessarily stay in Vegas. Let that be a lesson to you degenerates.
   13. bunyon Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:04 AM (#4338824)
Agree with 10.
   14. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:05 AM (#4338830)
scott

well, i travel a lot and i have seen multiple folks told they could not get through security. folks would pitch unholy fits but tsa held firm.

they will accept just about any type of photo id in lieu of the usual but sans that travellers are out of luck

based solely on observation your sitaution is the rare exception
   15. zonk Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:32 AM (#4338855)
well, i travel a lot and i have seen multiple folks told they could not get through security. folks would pitch unholy fits but tsa held firm.

they will accept just about any type of photo id in lieu of the usual but sans that travellers are out of luck

based solely on observation your sitaution is the rare exception


I don't travel all that much -- maybe 3-4 times a year -- but I've flown twice without a 'good' ID...

In one case, on a trip back home -- I simply forgot that I took my license out of my wallet and it was in a pair of pants in an already checked bag... Without rancor or sense of entitlement, I apologetically explained to the TSA agent what happened, he went through what was in my wallet with me -- and let me through with my Costco (grainy B&W picture) card.

In the other, much more difficult case -- my wallet was stolen entirely... Knowing this would be a big problem - I arrived at the airport early, immediately talked to a TSA supervisor, fortunately -- had my old boarding pass from the trip out, and pulled up what I could on my smart phone (i.e., logged into bank accounts, etc). Again - they worked with me and I got home without all that much hassle, all things considered.

I'm sure there are TSA agents who are either idiots, just plain disagreeable, or whatnot...

But frankly, I've always found -- I guess not just with the TSA, but even with something like say... the DMV -- it's a hell of a lot more helpful to the situation if you realize that the person in question is just doing his or her job and isn't out to cause you to miss your flight or force you to spend hours moving through multiple lines in a fruitless effort to get to the right window.

Funny thing how treating someone like a human being, asking for assistance rather than demanding service, and simply recognizing that the person in question -- who's doing whatever 8 hours a day, 5 days a week -- is better positioned to assist if they're so inclined and you're genuinely seeking assistance rather than barking meaningless orders, makes so many things easier.
   16. Nasty Nate Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:40 AM (#4338861)
My one problem with the TSA was when they went home long before my flight left, and so although I arrived at the airport over an hour before the flight took off, I was not allowed onboard because there was no security check available for me to go through. It was a small airport, and my flight had been delayed to a time at night when apparently they don't have normally scheduled flights, so the TSA had just gone home and screw you if you arrived at the airport after they left.
   17. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:40 AM (#4338862)
scott

well, i travel a lot and i have seen multiple folks told they could not get through security. folks would pitch unholy fits but tsa held firm.

they will accept just about any type of photo id in lieu of the usual but sans that travellers are out of luck

based solely on observation your sitaution is the rare exception


I have actually read somewhere that they can not require ID for domestic flights (int'l flights require a passport, of course). If you do not have, or won't produce ID, you are to be subjected to extra screening (luggage search, full "wanding" etc.).
   18. puck Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:45 AM (#4338865)
Funny thing how treating someone like a human being, asking for assistance rather than demanding service, and simply recognizing that the person in question -- who's doing whatever 8 hours a day, 5 days a week -- is better positioned to assist if they're so inclined and you're genuinely seeking assistance rather than barking meaningless orders, makes so many things easier.

This seems to help when your flight is cancelled, too.
   19. asinwreck Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:50 AM (#4338872)
Regarding the Vegas airport, precisely which passengers are not under the influence, angry, or aggressive there? McCarran has the worst waits to go through security of any airport in the United States and it's always crowded with drunk people.
   20. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:51 AM (#4338873)
Wearing that shirt probably didn't help.
   21. The Chronicles of Reddick Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:52 AM (#4338875)
I wonder if he pulled out the "do you know who I am " chestnut?
   22. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 11:57 AM (#4338883)
Wearing that shirt probably didn't help.

The beard is a little "terroristy" also.
   23. J.R. Wolf Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:07 PM (#4338893)
I feel sympathy. I've had awful experiences with the TSA myself.
   24. JJ1986 Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:10 PM (#4338896)
I feel sympathy. I've had awful experiences with the TSA myself.


Are you Artie Ziff?
   25. zonk Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:11 PM (#4338899)
Funny thing how treating someone like a human being, asking for assistance rather than demanding service, and simply recognizing that the person in question -- who's doing whatever 8 hours a day, 5 days a week -- is better positioned to assist if they're so inclined and you're genuinely seeking assistance rather than barking meaningless orders, makes so many things easier.



This seems to help when your flight is cancelled, too.


Heh... amen to that -

I had a flight back from Mexico on vacation that involved a rather silly (but much cheaper when I booked!) layover in Dallas... basically, I landed at 11 PM and had a 5 hour layover before a 4 AM final leg home.

My intention was always seeing about either finagling my way onto a better flight (either a quicker connection or a longer layover).

When I landed, I got in line -- apparently, behind another bunch of people dealing with a cancelled flight.. while person after person was screaming at the attendants at the counter, I figured my chances were pretty slim.

I got the front, smiled, and exchanged some pleasantries --- and voila... not only did I get a fee-free flight change to a 9 AM flight, but the attendant also gave me the same hotel voucher the others had gotten... so I got a free night at a pretty nice hotel, a meal, free transport back-and-forth, and a much more reasonable flight back... and all it cost me was a few minutes of smiles...
   26. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:15 PM (#4338906)

At least he didn't try the DMX method
   27. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:23 PM (#4338923)
zonk

if you have an id with photo that goes a long way as i mentioned. it does not have to be govt issued though they prefer that by a large stretch

throwing a temper tantrum does not help. at all.

the woman i saw in san fran who called the tsa guy a nazi ended up being walked out by a whole crew
   28. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: January 04, 2013 at 12:53 PM (#4338952)
Wearing that shirt probably didn't help.

The beard is a little "terroristy" also.


Can't tell if you guys are joking, but that's the point of the shirt... which he wasn't wearing at the airport (unsurprisingly, part of the discussion on today's morning sports talk radio).
   29. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:02 PM (#4338961)
I have a question for frequent travelers--how is your row assignment made? Is it based on when you book your ticket, when you check-in, how many miles you have, random, or something else?
   30. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:02 PM (#4338962)
One good thing to know that I didn't know (until I did): an expired driver's license is no longer valid ID, TSA-wise, even if the expiration date was only yesterday.
TSA reform is one of those things I'm just sure the President will get around to, now that he's been re-elected.
   31. The Robby Hammock District (Dan Lee) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:14 PM (#4338970)
I have a question for frequent travelers--how is your row assignment made?
The only thing I know for sure is that if William Shatner is on the plane, he gets a window seat next to the wing.
   32. Dale Sams Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:18 PM (#4338976)
I thought you always had to be able to prove you were the guy whose name is on th ticket.
   33. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:22 PM (#4338979)
I have a question for frequent travelers--how is your row assignment made? Is it based on when you book your ticket, when you check-in, how many miles you have, random, or something else?

You just pick where you want to sit when you buy the ticket.
   34. RJ in TO Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:27 PM (#4338984)
You just pick where you want to sit when you buy the ticket.

This is the method I've always used.
   35. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:29 PM (#4338986)
Can't tell if you guys are joking, but that's the point of the shirt... which he wasn't wearing at the airport (unsurprisingly, part of the discussion on today's morning sports talk radio).

Mostly joking.

But in the TSA case, I don't think looking "illegal" is the issue, it's looking like a "mad mullah".
   36. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4338988)
So I guess if there's no seats in the front, those have been sold. But sometimes I can't select a specific seat purchase (I can only choose aisle or window)--maybe that's different by airline.
   37. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4338989)
frequent flier status and/or willingness to pay has a huge impact on row assignment. certainly first class but then also other rows are typically blocked out unless you have a particular status with the airline. or if you are willing to pay extra as airlines have some sort of 'economy plus' program in place. typically that applies to the rows immediately following the first class area

   38. Nasty Nate Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:33 PM (#4338991)
So I guess if there's no seats in the front, those have been sold. But sometimes I can't select a specific seat purchase (I can only choose aisle or window)--maybe that's different by airline.


Also, I think with Southwest there are no assigned seats.
   39. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:34 PM (#4338992)
So I guess if there's no seats in the front, those have been sold. But sometimes I can't select a specific seat purchase (I can only choose aisle or window)--maybe that's different by airline.

Must be. I generally fly United/Continental and Jetblue and have always been able to choose my seat/row with the exception of first class and, anymore, the emergency row which they charge extra for.
   40. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:34 PM (#4338993)
Also, I think with Southwest there are no assigned seats.

You can always tell a Southwest gate by The Stampede.
   41. Dale Sams Posted: January 04, 2013 at 01:43 PM (#4339004)
OT-Why is Nick Swisher not worthy of a link, but Joel Hanrahan is?
   42. Bhaakon Posted: January 04, 2013 at 02:38 PM (#4339065)
But in the TSA case, I don't think looking "illegal" is the issue, it's looking like a "mad mullah".


One would think that the tattoos argue against such an assumption.
   43. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 02:41 PM (#4339070)
One would think that the tattoos argue against such an assumption.

Honest question, do Muslims not tattoo? In any case, he may well have been wearing a long-sleeved shirt or jacket.
   44. Moeball Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:47 PM (#4339220)
Also, I think with Southwest there are no assigned seats.


Southwest has long had a reputation as "Cattle Call" airlines because of the policy of no pre- assigned seating. This turned out to be an absolutely brilliant policy on 9/11 because a major part of the hijackers' plans involved sitting in first class on the chosen flights so it would be easier to get to the cockpit...no such strategy could exist on an airline where you couldn't guarantee seats up front, thus eliminating Southwest as one of the airlines targeted.

The only thing I know for sure is that if William Shatner is on the plane, he gets a window seat next to the wing.


And I'll just wait for the next flight, thank you.

How does that work with private planes? TSA inspects every flight?


I can speak from personal experience that flying is like many other things in life - if you have enough $$$, the rules don't apply to you. If you have enough $$$, the TSA doesn't even exist as far as you and your private flight are concerned...no questions asked whatsoever...not only here in the US, but even when landing in foreign countries that are known to be US-friendly (I wouldn't want to try getting that friendly, no-harassment treatment flying into some place like Tehran, however, no matter how much $$$ you may have).
   45. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 04:57 PM (#4339228)
I can speak from personal experience that flying is like many other things in life - if you have enough $$$, the rules don't apply to you. If you have enough $$$, the TSA doesn't even exist as far as you and your private flight are concerned...no questions asked whatsoever...not only here in the US, but even when landing in foreign countries that are known to be US-friendly (I wouldn't want to try getting that friendly, no-harassment treatment flying into some place like Tehran, however, no matter how much $$$ you may have).

The big issue with private flights is the flight crew usually knows the passengers by sight. That reduces a whole slew of security concerns.
   46. Squash Posted: January 04, 2013 at 05:12 PM (#4339249)
There is no TSA for private flights but as I recall there are customs, though far more lenient.

I was once waiting in line at security when a woman in front of me pitched a holy fit about taking her water bottle through. She was railing about how she had a sinus infection and needed to be constantly hydrated, ignoring/not cognizant of course of the fact that a mere 20 feet away on the other side of security there were 40 shops that would be more than happy to sell her a new bottle of $5 water. She was adamant though and eventually TSA let her through with the bottle.
   47. Nasty Nate Posted: January 04, 2013 at 05:37 PM (#4339269)
Southwest has long had a reputation as "Cattle Call" airlines because of the policy of no pre- assigned seating. This turned out to be an absolutely brilliant policy on 9/11 because a major part of the hijackers' plans involved sitting in first class on the chosen flights so it would be easier to get to the cockpit...no such strategy could exist on an airline where you couldn't guarantee seats up front, thus eliminating Southwest as one of the airlines targeted.


I don't think Southwest does non-stop transcontinental flights anyway
   48. Bhaakon Posted: January 04, 2013 at 06:20 PM (#4339290)
ignoring/not cognizant of course of the fact that a mere 20 feet away on the other side of security there were 40 shops that would be more than happy to sell her a new bottle of $5 water.


$5 water? I'd pitch a fit, too.
   49. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: January 04, 2013 at 06:22 PM (#4339293)
I was once waiting in line at security when a woman in front of me pitched a holy fit about taking her water bottle through. She was railing about how she had a sinus infection and needed to be constantly hydrated, ignoring/not cognizant of course of the fact that a mere 20 feet away on the other side of security there were 40 shops that would be more than happy to sell her a new bottle of $5 water. She was adamant though and eventually TSA let her through with the bottle.

Those people piss me off to all hell. If I ran security, there'd be a policy that all whiny ######## will be searched and screened until they miss their flight.
   50. esseff Posted: January 04, 2013 at 07:28 PM (#4339340)
Southwest doesn't assign you a seat pre-boarding, but it's not a wild free-for-all either. They assign you a priority number, divided into groups, and when the flight boards, passengers are lined up by priority number. For example, your number might be A-33, which would mean you would be in Group A and would line up between the person with A-32 and the person with A-34. Once on the plane, you pick an available seat.
   51. villageidiom Posted: January 04, 2013 at 07:31 PM (#4339344)
You can always tell a Southwest gate by The Stampede.
No more. Boarding order is still assigned when you check in, but you can check in online 24 hours prior to flight. They've essentially moved The Stampede from the gate to the internet.
I don't think Southwest does non-stop transcontinental flights anyway
At least one of the 9/11 flights was Boston to Chicago. Southwest has nonstop flights for that.
I was once waiting in line at security when a woman in front of me pitched a holy fit about taking her water bottle through. She was railing about how she had a sinus infection and needed to be constantly hydrated
Chug it or dump it, then refill it on the other side. I'm disappointed they let her through.
But sometimes I can't select a specific seat purchase (I can only choose aisle or window)--maybe that's different by airline.
It is.

If you book by phone you're more likely to be asked "window or aisle?" because they don't want to waste any more time with you than they have to - time spent with you is time not helping someone on hold - and that's easier than asking specifically what seat you want or having you describe your eHarmony compatibility with airline seats.

When companies started setting up online sales, some simply repeated online the same questions they'd ask on the phone - even if those questions were designed to sacrifice choice for expediency, which online sales don't have to do. Other companies figured out that allowing the full choice of open seats for online customers was a positive, and set it up that way.
   52. Nasty Nate Posted: January 04, 2013 at 07:35 PM (#4339345)
At least one of the 9/11 flights was Boston to Chicago. Southwest has nonstop flights for that.


I think all the hijacked flights were headed to California.
   53. CrosbyBird Posted: January 04, 2013 at 08:44 PM (#4339375)
Must be. I generally fly United/Continental and Jetblue and have always been able to choose my seat/row with the exception of first class and, anymore, the emergency row which they charge extra for.

Pro tip: If you're cheap and willing to risk that the rest of your plane is full of cheap people, sign up for a regular seat, and then ask to change to the emergency exit row at your physical check-in for free. I'm hoping they don't close this loophole any time soon.

Like the $5 water bottle, it's not the money so much as the principle.
   54. Squash Posted: January 04, 2013 at 09:36 PM (#4339396)
re: the $5 water, I was more making a dual joke that she had one of those particularly snooty bottled waters and that airline shops are notoriously expensive. For accuracy's sake she probably could have purchased one for $3. Which is still pretty outrageous, but carry on.
   55. CM in NY Posted: January 04, 2013 at 09:44 PM (#4339400)
I fly about 100K miles per year, mostly on United and American, and Southwest has the most organized boarding process by far. On United it's impossible to tell who is actually boarding and who is just crowding the boarding area anxiously waiting for their group to call. On Southwest, you get assigned a place in a group of 10 passengers so it's completely clear when your group is boarding. Southwest also doesn't charge for checked luggage so in theory there is less of a battle for overhead space.
   56. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: January 04, 2013 at 09:47 PM (#4339402)
Jet Blue tip: if it looks like the flight will be full when you pick seats online, don't pick a shitty seat. If the regular economy section ends up full, unseated economy passengers get seated in the extra leg room economy seats for no extra charge when they get to the airport (and since people rarely upgrade, you may get the whole aisle). Worst case, its not full and you end up in a middle seat like you would have anyway.
   57. Darren Posted: January 04, 2013 at 10:31 PM (#4339418)
"Busted" is a really terrible word to use in this headline. That's a word that's normally used to describe someone who is arrested for carrying illegal drugs, or at least breaking the law. The choice of it here seems, at best, thoughtless.
   58. beer on a stick Posted: January 05, 2013 at 10:41 PM (#4339854)
I've flown without ID in the last few years. But then, I'm white.


I actually had a talk with Southwest about this a few years back, when I lost my wallet in Tucson, and had to fly across country a few days later. They told me they would be able to get me on my flight, but that I should show up a little earlier so they could sort the mess out with TSA.
   59. OCF Posted: January 05, 2013 at 11:02 PM (#4339859)
Another Jet Blue tip, which applies specifically to flying into Long Beach. If you sit way in the back, you'll get off the plane quickly. Long Beach Airport has no jetway ramps; instead, they roll staircases or portable ramps up to the plane. But they'll open both the front door and the back door, which is why the back empties quickly.
   60. beer on a stick Posted: January 05, 2013 at 11:04 PM (#4339860)
I don't think Southwest does non-stop transcontinental flights anyway


What would you call Baltimore to Austin? Used to fly that one, both ways about twice a month. It's not too bad though at least going south, which is downwind.

Southwest doesn't do the "cattle call" per se. They have different lists for boarding. "A", "B","C", and then all the late folks. Makes things a lot more orderly when you only have to compete with about 20 people or so on your designated list. I was an "A" lister, since I was a frequent flier, so boarding on SWA was a snap for me. I usually got the seat I wanted, first row behind biz, on the aisle.

SWA is one of the few things I loved about living in Airport Land.

Edit: Whoops...HEY! Coke to essef.
   61. beer on a stick Posted: January 05, 2013 at 11:11 PM (#4339862)
I think all the hijacked flights were headed to California.


Also all the planes chosen for 9/11 were much larger than the 737, which is SWA's only platform.
   62. valuearbitrageur Posted: January 06, 2013 at 05:24 AM (#4339935)
Also all the planes chosen for 9/11 were much larger than the 737, which is SWA's only platform.


Bigger planes on longer flights = more fuel & a better weapon.

Problem was solved when cockpit doors were locked. Thanks to TSA we get to lose to Osama BinLaden every year even after he's dead to the tune of tens of billions in additional travel costs.

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