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Monday, March 25, 2013

Shearn: Despite injuries and age, pitching and intangibles will keep Yankees in AL East race

I had forgotten why this guy dropped me on Facebook.

You know, we live in a day and age where everything is measured in baseball by Sabermetrics. While I can’t deny that parts of the number crunching have changed the game in a positive way, some things will never able to be measured by that collective abacus.  Heart, character, and guts. Along with the pitching staying healthy, I believe those immeasurable intangibles will have the Yankees in the thick of a playoff race in September.

(used Professor Pepperwinkle’s Topsy Turvy machine here)

Oh by the way, the Yankees have a manager named Joe Girardi. The same Joe Girardi who won Manager of the Year back in 2006 with a young Florida Marlins team that wasn’t expected to win near 78 games and they did. Yes he had a 23-year-old Miguel Cabrera, and a 22-year-old rookie named Hanley Ramirez, but he also had a lot of guys that knew their role and sacrificed for the greater good of the team. That on top of everything else will put you on the path to a winning season.

You need those character guys, guys with heart.  I know the Yankees have that on this club. They have guys that want to win. They play the game to win. If you combine that with what the Giants have had on the mound in their championship seasons, which I believe the Yankees do this season, and you have a team that is still dangerous in a more competitive AL East.

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   1. flournoy Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:18 AM (#4395642)
he also had a lot of guys that knew their role and sacrificed for the greater good of the team.


For example?
   2. bobm Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:59 AM (#4395648)
Girardi's history with a team including 22 rookies paid a total of $15 million may not apply so well to the 2013 Yankees.

Playing 22 rookies, Girardi guided the Marlins to a 78-84 finish and had them in the playoff race until a late-September fade — a surprisingly competitive performance for a team that was expected to lose at least 100 games.

Florida had a $15 million opening day payroll, the lowest in the major leagues by more than $20 million.


http://usatoday30.usatoday.com/sports/baseball/2006-11-15-manager-of-year_x.htm
   3. JE (Jason) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 08:13 AM (#4395650)
While I can’t deny that parts of the number crunching have changed the game in a positive way, some things will never able to be measured by that collective abacus. Heart, character, and guts. Along with the pitching staying healthy, I believe those immeasurable intangibles will have the Yankees in the thick of a playoff race in September.

Fanboyism is tough to measure too.
   4. boteman Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:13 AM (#4395677)
You need those character guys, guys with heart. I know the Yankees have that on this club.

They don't have Joe Boyd--yet. Maybe them Damn Yankees should make a deal with the Devil.
   5. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:16 AM (#4395680)
YANKEES! YANKEES! RAH! RAH! RAH! (Shearn: "Just as long as my paycheck clears...")
   6. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:38 AM (#4395690)
A 23 year old Miguel Cabrera would be a great fit. They should get a guy like that.
   7. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:52 AM (#4395705)
The hell of it is, he's right.
   8. SG Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:53 AM (#4395707)
Wait, an article on the Yankees' television network web site is saying they still might contend this year? Why?
   9. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:57 AM (#4395711)
The hell of it is, he's right.

Quiet, you.
   10. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 25, 2013 at 10:02 AM (#4395714)
The hell of it is, he's right.


Agreed.

Forget about the heart, character, guts stuff and just look at the pitching staff. Yeah there are some age/injury concerns but that is true of every team. People are acting like the Yankees are going to win 70 games but I'm not seeing it. I think they're a mid-80s team. That's close enough to contention for government work.

I will say I think Girardi is a wild card. I've always believe Girardi is a guy who makes a good situation better and a bad situation worse. I can easily see him going Valentine if things spin away from the Yanks.
   11. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 25, 2013 at 10:13 AM (#4395724)
Forget about the heart, character, guts stuff and just look at the pitching staff. Yeah there are some age/injury concerns but that is true of every team.

The problem is that the age of this staff is going to show up as the season wears on, in the inability of the starters to pitch deep into the game. This is going to put a lot of pressure on a bullpen that's longer on big names than it's likely to be in effectiveness once the overuse works its way up the ladder.

The one consolation may be this: With that feeble offense, it's likely that Mo and Robertson won't be that overworked, but heaven help the rest of the pen as it tries to get through one middle inning crisis after another.
   12. The District Attorney Posted: March 25, 2013 at 10:33 AM (#4395742)
Yeah, this is totally about sabermetrics. I'm sure the average Yankee fan looks at a 2013 Opening Day lineup of Gardner, Ichiro, Youkilis, Cano, Hafner, V. Wells, J. Rivera, E. Nunez and Cervelli and thinks "wow, that's great."
   13. Dale Sams Posted: March 25, 2013 at 10:41 AM (#4395746)
Yeah, this is totally about sabermetrics. I'm sure the average Yankee fan looks at a 2013 Opening Day lineup of Gardner, Ichiro, Youkilis, Cano, Hafner, V. Wells, J. Rivera, E. Nunez and Cervelli and thinks "wow, that's great."


I'd be more than happy to take Robertson, Rivera, Kuroda and Sabathia off their poor poor hands.
   14. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 25, 2013 at 10:51 AM (#4395751)
I'm sure the average Yankee fan looks at a 2013 Opening Day lineup of Gardner, Ichiro, Youkilis, Cano, Hafner, V. Wells, J. Rivera, E. Nunez and Cervelli and thinks "wow, that's great."

At least you can't say "Most of these guys never had a prime". Only two of them never had a prime.
   15. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:14 AM (#4395769)
Reminds me a little of the 1995 Yankees: Mattingly, Boggs, Fernandez, Tartabull, Sierra...a line-up of all-stars! (from 1988)

OTOH, that team was still pretty good and unfortunately morphed into the Yankees dynasty the following year. So I take it back -- this Yankees team is nothing like the 1995 team. (I hope.)
   16. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:15 AM (#4395770)
Jolly Old - out of curiosity what is your expectations for the Yankees this year? 80 wins? 70? Your posts are all rather doom and gloom, which is fine, just want to figure out where you are at numbers-wise.
   17. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:20 AM (#4395773)
I'm sure the average Yankee fan looks at a 2013 Opening Day lineup of Gardner, Ichiro, Youkilis, Cano, Hafner, V. Wells, J. Rivera, E. Nunez and Cervelli and thinks "wow, that's great."

At least you can't say "Most of these guys never had a prime". Only two of them never had a prime.


OK, Ichiro, Youkilis, Cano, Hafner, Wells I get. But what 'prime' did Gardner, Rivera, Nunez, and Cervelli have? Gardner has had 1 very good year, which is more than the other three combined.
   18. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:50 AM (#4395801)
Jolly Old - out of curiosity what is your expectations for the Yankees this year? 80 wins? 70? Your posts are all rather doom and gloom, which is fine, just want to figure out where you are at numbers-wise.

I hadn't really thought about a specific number, but nothing between about 70 and 80 wins would surprise me. That'd put them below the JaysRaysO's and maybe the Red Sox in the ALE, and if everything breaks wrong (say Sabathia goes back on the DL or Jeter / A-Rod / Teixeira's injuries linger longer than expected), then I think they're only guaranteed to be above Houston in the AL as a whole. What this roster really needs is a time machine set back to about 2005.
   19. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:53 AM (#4395805)
I'm afraid I don't understand what TFA is actually, like, saying. I mean, there's an indication that the writer feels that the Yankees are going to be okay, but for the life of me I can't figure out what his reasons are.
   20. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 25, 2013 at 12:04 PM (#4395813)
What I gotta know is, are the Yankees intangibles in the best shape of their collective life? Or does each intangible have its own separate life?

That makes me think, is there a definitive list of intangibles?
   21. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 12:25 PM (#4395834)
That makes me think, is there a definitive list of intangibles?

it's right next to the unwritten rules
   22. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 25, 2013 at 12:44 PM (#4395845)
Wait, I thought the Diamondbacks had gathered all the intangibles?
   23. Rusty Priske Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:06 PM (#4395861)
The problem with intangibles is that they can't field. The ball goes right through them.
   24. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:08 PM (#4395865)

I'm afraid I don't understand what TFA is actually, like, saying. I mean, there's an indication that the writer feels that the Yankees are going to be okay, but for the life of me I can't figure out what his reasons are.


Well, Girardi once managed a team, that was nothing like this Yankees team, to 78 wins, so he has the power, alongside Mystique and Aura of course, to manage the Yankees to 90 wins. Oh, and the Yankees players care more than the players on other teams.
   25. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:09 PM (#4395866)
The problem with intangibles is that they can't field. The ball goes right through them.


Jeter is intangible?
   26. jacksone (AKA It's OK...) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 01:11 PM (#4395868)

I hadn't really thought about a specific number, but nothing between about 70 and 80 wins would surprise me. That'd put them below the JaysRaysO's and maybe the Red Sox in the ALE, and if everything breaks wrong (say Sabathia goes back on the DL or Jeter / A-Rod / Teixeira's injuries linger longer than expected), then I think they're only guaranteed to be above Houston in the AL as a whole. What this roster really needs is a time machine set back to about 2005.


So, somewhere from 65 to 80 wins? With this year's AL East 15 wins is probably right on for margin of error for all of the teams.
   27. zack Posted: March 25, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4395906)
What exactly is the difference between heart, character and guts?
   28. geonose Posted: March 25, 2013 at 02:18 PM (#4395917)
I'm afraid I don't understand what TFA is actually, like, saying. I mean, there's an indication that the writer feels that the Yankees are going to be okay, but for the life of me I can't figure out what his reasons are.

Oh, you know, the usual reasons for the things that Yankees writers say...because they're the Yankees and because they are entitled to be in the playoffs. Everybody else must bow down and submit.
   29. Cowboy Popup Posted: March 25, 2013 at 02:32 PM (#4395933)
So, somewhere from 65 to 80 wins? With this year's AL East 15 wins is probably right on for margin of error for all of the teams.

Has there been a prediction thread yet? I feel like the AL East could have nearly every order (except maybe the O's in the top two) picked this year.
   30. Dan Posted: March 25, 2013 at 02:51 PM (#4395961)
If there's a prediction thread, there will be multiple people that pick the Orioles in the top 2 in the ALE. I honestly think you would see every permutation of those 5 teams listed.
   31. McCoy Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:04 PM (#4395974)
nm
   32. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:04 PM (#4395976)
Toronto

Rays or O's
O's or Rays

Sox or Yanks
Yanks or Sox

Forced to be more specific....

Toronto 96-66 On paper,the class of the division
Rays 91-71 Never underestimate this team
O's 90-72 Birds give diarrhea to Pythagorea
Sox 76-86 Need new players more than new manager
Yanks 75-87 Worst Yankee team since the early 90's
   33. Yeaarrgghhhh Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:17 PM (#4395995)
Oriole 92 (better rotation and offense, but more competition in division and some pythag regression)
Blue Jays 90 (good team, but not great; rotation is just ok)
Rays 89 (Myers doesn't contribute much and offense is blah; pitching is very good once again)
Red Sox 85 (nice rebound and good team overall, but not great)
Yankees 78 (I'm assuming that Jeter misses a few weeks, granderson and tex miss a big chunk of the season, and Arod misses the whole season)

   34. SoSH U at work Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:24 PM (#4396003)
Has there been a prediction thread yet? I feel like the AL East could have nearly every order (except maybe the O's in the top two) picked this year.


The only one that would surprise me is a pick for the Sox to finish first.
   35. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:25 PM (#4396005)
I expect there will be people who pick the Red Sox to win it, but I can't see any justification for that. When you have a 69-93 team, adding a bunch of 30-plus journeymen like Cody Ross and Shane Victorino is not exactly a ticket back to the top.
   36. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:28 PM (#4396009)
Hey, Cody Ross was LAST year's Red Sox 30-plus journeyman. Now he's joined the Gibson Boys Grit Brigade.
   37. SoSH U at work Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:33 PM (#4396013)
I expect there will be people who pick the Red Sox to win it, but I can't see any justification for that.


That's what I was getting at. I can see why you'd pick the others (O's are young and they were actually a good team in the second half, Toronto added a bunch, the Rays are smarter than everyone else and the Yankees are still evil and one can't count evil as dead until its buried - and not even then). While I assume Boston will be better this year, I don't see any cause for bumping the Sox all the way to the top.

   38. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:34 PM (#4396015)
I will not put any prediction for this division on record. No finishing order would particularly shock me.
   39. Cowboy Popup Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:36 PM (#4396020)
Oh, fun!

Jays (91) - I expect Josh Johnson to bounce back in a big way and Reyes to take full advantage of the turf and score a bunch of runs in front of Encarnacion and Bautista.
Rays (89) - I think they will miss Shields, but if Longoria actually plays a full season and Moore gets the walks under control, they won't miss him that much.
O's (88) - Betting the second half team, which outscored its opponents by a healthy margin, shows up and makes up for the bullpen regression. I'm really interested to watch what Machado does.
Yanks (84) - Too many injuries early for them to keep up with the deeper teams in the division. Some lucky breaks when the team is at half strength could push them into the top of the division
Sox (80) - Shane Victorino, RFer and Mike Napoli, first baseman. They signed good players, but are playing them too far down the defensive spectrum to make up for the pitching issues and being a 69 win team last year.
   40. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:43 PM (#4396034)
When you have a 69-93 team, adding....


the pitching issues and being a 69 win team last year....


Thankfully for the Sox, their 2012 record can't harm them anymore.
   41. Fernigal McGunnigle has become a merry hat Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:54 PM (#4396052)
I expect there will be people who pick the Red Sox to win it, but I can't see any justification for that.


The goal of a prediction thread is not just to get things right, but to be right about things that everyone else gets wrong.

I think that a projection based on running a large number of simulations would give the Sox something like a 1 in 15 chance at winning the division. 1 in 15 is enough it wouldn't be a miraculous result, only a very unlikely one, and so it will be worthwhile for someone to make it. Put it this way: if you could quantify glory, the expected glory payout of being the only person to pick the Sox might be greater than the expected glory payout of being one of a crowd to choose the Rays or Jays or whoever.
   42. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: March 25, 2013 at 03:58 PM (#4396063)
Rays (91)- I just like the pitching too much and think a full season from Longoria and a breakout one from Jennings will push them over the top.
Jays (89)- If I believed in their pitching, I'd put them over the Rays, but I don't see the innings in the starting rotation.
Yanks (84)- The injuries ruin their postseason chances. I sort of expect Youkilis to surprise and have a very strong season. Just a random note.
Sox- (82)- Ortiz and Ellsbury health issues will be a problem all year. Combine that with their pitching issues and I don't see them competing.
Orioles (80)- I guess Machado could make a big jump this season, but I expect the pitching to regress a bit.
   43. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 25, 2013 at 04:04 PM (#4396071)
Thankfully for the Sox, their 2012 record can't harm them anymore.


Yeah, but I think people have forgotten how bad they were last year. Bad, bad, bad. The 1967 Impossible Dream Red Sox were coming off a better season than the 2012 Red Sox had. The shocking 1984 Cubs were coming off a better season than the 2012 Red Sox had. The 1914 Miracle Braves were coming off a better season than the 2012 Red Sox had.
   44. Nasty Nate Posted: March 25, 2013 at 04:09 PM (#4396078)
The 1967 Impossible Dream Red Sox were coming off a better season than the 2012 Red Sox had. The shocking 1984 Cubs were coming off a better season than the 2012 Red Sox had. The 1914 Miracle Braves were coming off a better season than the 2012 Red Sox had.


But a big reason those teams were considered impossible, shocking, and miraculous was that they were coming off a string of terrible seasons, not just because of their prior year W-L.
   45. Jose Is The Most Absurd Thing on the Site Posted: March 25, 2013 at 04:14 PM (#4396083)
Rays 94
Blue Jays 89
Yankees 84
Red Sox 81
Orioles 74

There isn't that big a gap between the teams but with the unbalanced schedule and #### luck I think there will be more separation than the talent alone should create.
   46. Walt Davis Posted: March 25, 2013 at 04:15 PM (#4396085)
If I believed in their pitching, I'd put them over the Rays, but I don't see the innings in the starting rotation.

Really? Just for 2012:

Buehrle 202
Johnson 191
Dickey 233
Romero 181
Morrow 124

You can't ask for better than that. Some injury risk but probably no more than any other team. Meanwhile Buehrle and Dickey are probably two of the lowest injury risks you could find. I'm not sure there's a better staff in baseball.

Tampa on the other hand has to replace Shields' 227 innings and was healthy enough to get 116 starts from their other top 4. That will be a hard feat to match.
   47. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: March 25, 2013 at 04:20 PM (#4396092)
I agree with Nasty Nate. A SINGLE bad season does not make us expect that the team will be bad from then on. Look at the 2003-04-05 Diamondbacks. Their win total went down by 33. And then they traded Randy Johnson for Javier Vazquez, and added Richie Sexson and Shawn Green, and their win total went up by 26 again.
   48. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: March 25, 2013 at 04:25 PM (#4396097)
Really? Just for 2012:

Buehrle 202
Johnson 191
Dickey 233
Romero 181
Morrow 124


Isn't Romero starting the season in the minors to be replaced by Kendrick? And I'm expecting an injury any day now from Josh Johnson. I'm also a little pessimistic about the quality of the innings that Buehrle will give. Also, as much as I love RA, I'm ready for it his dreamride to end any day now.
   49. Petunia inquires about ponies Posted: March 25, 2013 at 05:05 PM (#4396162)
Tampa on the other hand has to replace Shields' 227 innings and was healthy enough to get 116 starts from their other top 4. That will be a hard feat to match.

The Rays' rotation is stupid deep. Price and Moore figure to be quite good, Hellickson and Cobb are decent with a chance of awesome, they still haven't chosen between Niemann (who could be pretty good) and Roberto Hernandez (who used to be called Fausto Carmona) for the fifth spot, Archer seems ready to make the leap to the MLB rotation, Odorizzi could be ready soon, and I still think Jake McGee should be turned back into a starter. All 9 of those guys are better than Romero/Kendrick.

Jays 90
Rays 88
Orioles 84
Sox 84
Yanks 80
   50. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 05:11 PM (#4396169)
Jays 92
Rays 90
Yankees 84
Orioles 82
Red Sox 78
   51. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: March 25, 2013 at 05:46 PM (#4396221)
Heart, character, and guts. Along with the pitching staying healthy


I just love this. It's like, "yeah, those intangibles are great, but you know we might just need that pitching to do real well."
Well I say, no sh*t arsehole.

Jays 93
Rays 93
Yankees 85
Orioles 83
Sux 78
   52. I'll Call'A Tony, You Colavito Posted: March 25, 2013 at 05:53 PM (#4396233)
Isn't Romero starting the season in the minors to be replaced by Kendrick?


Not unless Anthopoulous just traded for him today.

J.A. Happ, on the other hand...
   53. Dan Posted: March 25, 2013 at 06:14 PM (#4396260)
93 Rays
90 Red Sox
89 Jays
85 Yankees
78 Orioles
   54. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:05 PM (#4396300)
93 Yankees
90 Rays
86 Blue Jays
78 Orioles
75 Red Sox
   55. Chris Fluit Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:21 PM (#4396310)
I'm guessing S. Paige meant Drabek, not Kendrick.
   56. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:21 PM (#4396311)
92 Rays
90 Jays
82 Yankees
80 Orioles
75 Red Sox
   57. JJ1986 Posted: March 25, 2013 at 07:36 PM (#4396315)
Drabek is on the shelf for a few months.
   58. The Yankee Clapper Posted: March 25, 2013 at 08:08 PM (#4396334)
If the pitching stays healthy, the Yankees should be OK, assuming the injured return on schedule. They are a little thin, but "the fewer men, the greater share of honor".
   59. RollingWave Posted: March 25, 2013 at 09:44 PM (#4396409)
Nah, it's the Yankees, strange shite always happen in their favor, i predict that by the end of the season, Chein Ming Wang would be leading the team in wins and Tyler Austin would be in the running for ROY, and Ichiro would have already shattered his career HR total by the ASG... and Aaron Small would be 10-0, of course.





   60. RollingWave Posted: March 25, 2013 at 10:53 PM (#4396448)
to be real though, Tyler Austin really is intriguing, in 600 PA since he was drafted, he hit .331/.406/.563 , and perhaps more amazingly, has 41/2 SB/CS. Granted almost all of that was in A ball.



   61. Jolly Old St. Nick Is A Jolly Old St. Crip Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:02 PM (#4396454)
Nah, it's the Yankees, strange shite always happen in their favor,

What, you mean like losing most of their 2012 starting lineup to either free agency or injuries? But I guess The Lord works in Mysterious Ways.
   62. RollingWave Posted: March 25, 2013 at 11:46 PM (#4396473)
old players getting hurt isn't exactly strange shite, nor is people signing for more money.

Players riding to the rescue out of nowhere , or guys doing nothing like what they've done before (like Ichiro hitting 20 hr) is
   63. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 26, 2013 at 12:46 PM (#4396815)
Jeter is intangible?


You can only touch him if you're a 22-year-old hostess at a Manhattan sushi restaurant.
   64. Mark Donelson Posted: March 26, 2013 at 01:04 PM (#4396829)

If the pitching stays healthy, the Yankees should be OK, assuming the injured return on schedule. They are a little thin, but "the fewer men, the greater share of honor".


JETER: We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne'er so vile
(even so much as Joba Chamberlain),
This day shall gentle his condition:
And ballplayers in Texas now a-benched
Shall think themselves accursed they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us within 2013.
   65. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: March 26, 2013 at 01:43 PM (#4396867)
Just for the record I always mix up Kyle Kendrick and J.A. Happ for no real reason. Haven't they played for basically the same teams? I am too lazy to look it up. I always mixed up Candy Maldonado and Carmelo Martinez too.
   66. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 26, 2013 at 03:08 PM (#4396951)
Just for the record I always mix up Kyle Kendrick and J.A. Happ for no real reason.

Kendrick: RH, Been with Phils all along; Had surprisingly good first year, regressed to peripherals, has rebounded the last 1.5 years with improved stuff, now decent K/9
Happ: LH, Started with Phils, been with Astros and Jays. Surprised his first year, good but hurt a lot in year 2, has faded since. Good K/9, bad BB/9.
   67. Nasty Nate Posted: March 27, 2013 at 10:57 AM (#4397549)
FWIW, Clay Davenport's projections have:

TAM 87
TOR 86
NYY 84
BOS 82
BAL 78

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