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SI.com: Manny will quit on White Sox just like he did with Red Sox, Dodgers

He will quit on the White Sox just the way he quit on the Red Sox and the Dodgers. Sooner or later. Bank on it.

Manny Ramirez returns to Fenway Park tonight and he’ll get booed with gusto—which he deserves. It’s nice to know that folks in Los Angeles now understand what we were trying to tell them when Manny first got to L.A. in 2008 and everybody out there talked about mean Boston and how Manny was just “misunderstood.’‘

Now they understand. Manny is all about Manny. And greed. Oh, and he’s also a steroid cheat, who’s been caught twice.

Manny the con man spoke through an interpreter (White Sox bench coach Joey Cora) when he joined the White Sox in Cleveland Tuesday. What a fraud. Ramirez went to high school in New York City. He’s been speaking fluent English for decades. He understands everything he hears in English and has never spoken through an interpreter until this week.

Good luck, Ozzie Guillen. You’ve managed some beauties before, but you’ve never had a guy like Manny.

Tripon Posted: September 03, 2010 at 05:44 PM | 43 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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1. phredbird

Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:02 PM (#3633041)

yawn.

2. SoSH U at work Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:08 PM (#3633050)

Careful folks, Tripon has slipped us some Shank under the cover of SIness.

3. AROM Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:12 PM (#3633056)

Only way Manny quits on the White Sox is if they are dumb enough to extend his contract. Right now it looks like they've got him in a perfect opportunity, let him bash the ball for 30 days while he tries to convince the highest bidder he's still a dominant hitter.

I'm sure he'll be motivated to crush the Red Sox. I hope he's got enough left to put on a big show this weekend.

4. The Essex Snead Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:15 PM (#3633061)

Yeah, I was wondering which SI contributor would be assy enough to write something so wrong-headed. Then I moused over the URL.

I would pay any amount to see Manny give CHB a shove or 20.

5. SoSH U at work Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:16 PM (#3633062)

Only way Manny quits on the White Sox is if they are dumb enough to extend his contract.

As far as I can tell, the only way he quits on the Dodgers is if they re-sign him.

6. Jacob Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:22 PM (#3633071)

Manny isn't as good as Babe Ruth!

7. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:24 PM (#3633076)

I was trying to think of a pithy and amusing response, but I just can't work myself up to do it. This is just another example of the CHB being the CHB. He's either a complete ####### or a guy who has carved out a lucrative career playing the role of a complete #######, but it hardly matters which. Please don't make my mistake and click through, as I did before reading the warning in #2.

8. AROM Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:26 PM (#3633079)

I just assumed "quit on the Dodgers" referred to him taking off most of the last 2 months due to injuries. Or getting ejected 1 pitch into his last Dodger AB.

9. Moneyball can't buy you love (Joey B.) Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:28 PM (#3633081)

As far as I can tell, the only way he quits on the Dodgers is if they re-sign him.

I think there's a better chance of me winning the Powerball lottery than that happening.

10. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:30 PM (#3633086)

Careful folks, Tripon has slipped us some Shank under the cover of SIness.

Gotta admit, I so the headline and thought "Pearlman." I was fooled.

11. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:46 PM (#3633097)

Gotta admit, I so the headline and thought "Pearlman." I was fooled.

no you weren't

12. Nasty Nate Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:49 PM (#3633103)

Gotta admit, I so the headline and thought "Pearlman." I was fooled

well, I was 100% sure it wasn't Heyman

13. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:54 PM (#3633107)

Gotta admit, I so the headline and thought "Pearlman." I was fooled.

Wow, did I really spell "saw" "S-O"? Something got very lost between brain and fingertips there.

14. Textbook Editor Posted: September 03, 2010 at 06:56 PM (#3633108)

I thought Heyman was forever to be called "Lord Haw-Haw" around these parts...

15. HarryAbles Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:03 PM (#3633114)

Did he really pretend that he didn't speak English? Not Monster-piss-break level, but it deserves to go in the file.

16. Fly, the most judgment-free human being on Earth Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3633123)

"Not Monster-piss-break level"? That was great, not bad. Everyone loved that.

17. robinred

Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:12 PM (#3633125)

He will alienate SI readers just the way he alienated readers of The Boston Globe. Sooner or later. Bank on it.

___

I think if an AL team signs Ramirez to a one-year deal to be their DH in 2011, they will wind up being very happy with it.

18. Sheer Tim Foli

Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:15 PM (#3633127)

Wow, did I really spell "saw" "S-O"? Something got very lost between brain and fingertips there.

That's OK. I read "saw" I wasn't sure what you were referring to.

19. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:28 PM (#3633138)

So, here's my bet: Manny is the new Dick Allen. A clearly HOF-caliber player who will be held out because, well, he really was that big of a d!ckhead.

20. HarryAbles Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:39 PM (#3633148)

"Not Monster-piss-break level"? That was great, not bad. Everyone loved that.

Sorry, that's just what I meant. I'm picturing something great and off-the-wall, like Cora relaying questions in Spanish and then Manny giving answers in perfect English.

21. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:41 PM (#3633149)

BLB.com: Shaughnessy is an #######;just like he was in 80s, 90s, 2000s

22. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:49 PM (#3633157)

So, here's my bet: Manny is the new Dick Allen. A clearly HOF-caliber player who will be held out because, well, he really was that big of a d!ckhead.

Nah, his numbers and longevity are too overwhelming. He'll be kept out because of the steroid thing, not the d!ckhead thing.

23. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 03, 2010 at 07:55 PM (#3633162)

Dan Shaughnessy's profitable "Curse of the Bambino" business was ruined by Manny. He has 1,918 reasons to hold a grudge. Of course, at least 1,300 of those reasons are that Shaughnessy's always been a canker sore.

24. Srul Itza Posted: September 03, 2010 at 08:36 PM (#3633204)

Dear Tripon:

You should be ashamed of yourself, posting something from CHB without warning.

The less hits he gets, the sooner he is gone.

25. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: September 03, 2010 at 08:38 PM (#3633205)

Good luck, Ozzie Guillen. You’ve managed some beauties before, but you’ve never had a guy like Manny.

Ozzie won a World Series with Carl Everett, the man who named CHB.

26. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: September 03, 2010 at 08:41 PM (#3633209)

Nah, his numbers and longevity are too overwhelming. He'll be kept out because of the steroid thing, not the d!ckhead thing.

I really think that plays into it, though. Cost his team 50 games with a suspension (and ruined what otherwise might have been the best team in the NL in 2009.) Then there's his behavior on the 08 Red Sox, the 10 Dodgers, and his general d!ckery. The image of an otherwise qualified player being held out under the character clause seems to fit Manny about as well as it fits Allen...

27. Drew (Primakov, Gungho Iguanas) Posted: September 03, 2010 at 08:42 PM (#3633211)

Thanks for telling me who wrote it. I nearly clicked the link to check. Thankfully my streak of never opening a CHB link is intact.

28. Eddo Posted: September 03, 2010 at 09:33 PM (#3633268)

As a White Sox fan, I don't really care if Manny quits on the team. The Sox really can't lose here - either Manny gets hot and they catch the Twins, or the final outcome is the same as if they never claimed Manny in the first place. They didn't give anything except 1/6 of a season's salary to get him.

29. Eddo Posted: September 03, 2010 at 09:43 PM (#3633270)

I really think that plays into it, though. Cost his team 50 games with a suspension (and ruined what otherwise might have been the best team in the NL in 2009.)

Didn't the Dodgers have the best record in the NL in 2009? They were dethroned, if you will, in the playoffs, when Manny was playing. I doubt his suspension had much of an effect on the Dodgers' season's ultimate outcome.

30. Benji Gil Gamesh is not being paid to be that guy Posted: September 03, 2010 at 09:52 PM (#3633273)

You know, I really try not to get into judging public people (generally). But Shaughnessy...dude, for a sportswriter you're not a bad writer (at least you weren't 6 or 8 years ago, the last time I bothered to read you). Can't you go get some therapy or something? I mean if it's truly all an act and you aren't a bilious, perpetually aggrieved, loathsome guy, then well-played I guess.

But really, enough.

31. Orangepeel Posted: September 03, 2010 at 09:53 PM (#3633274)

25 is hilarious

32. Jose Can You Seabiscuit Posted: September 03, 2010 at 10:04 PM (#3633276)

But Shaughnessy...dude, for a sportswriter you're not a bad writer

This is what makes him so frustrating for me. I grew up reading him, used to love his stuff and to this day he can write a top notch piece. Unfortunately, for every great column he churns out about 30 that are utter crap. He wrote a terrific piece recently about Clemens re-telling the story of Clemens sending a stuffed animal to Shaughnessy's daughter when she had become sick (leukemia I think). Rather than being the usual "Clemens poops his pants" piece it was a well done article tinged with the sadness of a formerly great player now reduced to a punchline and how as a fan that was sad.

I think he just can't be bothered to work at his craft anymore so unless the stars are aligned he is comfortable mailing in the majority of his columns.

33. Sonic Youk Posted: September 03, 2010 at 10:28 PM (#3633292)

Not that I want to side with CHB or denigrate one of my favorite players, but I remember how many people accused Boston fans of trashing their stars or, even worse, being racist when Manny was shoved out the door. Interesting that these people aren't out in force to accuse LA of the same.

34. dave h Posted: September 03, 2010 at 10:54 PM (#3633306)

I don't think it's based on racism, but I do think Boston trashes a lot of its stars on the way out. It's not clear whether that's orchestrated by the team or it's just ######## like CHB. I can't say whether LA did the same because I'm not in tune with the LA papers. He certainly performed well for the Dodgers, so if they're saying he quit on the team then yeah that's equally shameful. All I know is that they traded him though, which could just be a business decision, and in fact it's still CHB, the Boston writer, who is crapping all over him.

35. akrasian Posted: September 03, 2010 at 11:03 PM (#3633309)

I'm not in LA anymore, but my sense is that leaving out possibly the LA Times crew, who hate everybody, there's not a sense that Manny quit on the team, or tried to get traded. He was hurt. He hit when he wasn't hurt. Most of the noise associated with this seems to be coming from Bostonians who want to twist the facts to make Manny look evil, instead of an aging player not suitable for the NL any longer.

36. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 03, 2010 at 11:29 PM (#3633317)

I remember how many people accused Boston fans of trashing their stars or, even worse, being racist when Manny was shoved out the door. Interesting that these people aren't out in force to accuse LA of the same.

It's harder to do when there are no anonymous "adios, jerk" quotes from management, no burst of vocal resentment from the fans, and no negative anecdotes or incidents involving the player. That leaves a few usual suspects like Plaschke who go to sleep dreaming of the day their editors will run their "You can't spell Scully without S-C-U-M-B-A-G" columns. Not much of a groundswell.

Although I notice that Manny Ramirez has let down his teammates again, and won't be playing tonight's big game.

37. Joe Bivens, Idiot Posted: September 03, 2010 at 11:38 PM (#3633325)

Ol' Joe Bivens will be saying "hey" to Manny tomorrow night.

38. Nasty Nate Posted: September 03, 2010 at 11:43 PM (#3633327)

re 35, 36 - Jeff Passan and Jayson Stark wrote hatchet jobs about Manny leaving LA too. They are not twisted Bostonians.

I will cheer for Manny at fenway tomorrow night.

39. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: September 03, 2010 at 11:59 PM (#3633330)

Absolutely, there have been a LOT of negative articles from coast to coast, trying to sell the premise of "Manny Ramirez and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good, Very Bad Departure." But it's just not getting much traction, except within the media itself. These sports pundits are marching down the street and beating drums, while deluding themselves that they're leading a parade.

40. Joe Bivens, Idiot Posted: September 04, 2010 at 12:05 AM (#3633334)

Nate, section 17, loge box 122, row aa. Come say hey to Joe Bivens and his niece.

41. Buzzards Bay Posted: September 04, 2010 at 12:54 AM (#3633350)

....had the chance to go through some Jim Murray stuff over the summer....wanted to get a better handle on the Dodgers,what they are and who they are...he was measured and inventive and original....in the small sample I went through he never went into THAT PLACE where a guess is affirmed as fact....that gathering place of amateur shrinks and distilling revisionists

Sec 27 Best Entrance Gate A

Looking forward to it

3rd base side rules at Fenway

42. Ron J Posted: September 04, 2010 at 08:59 AM (#3633442)

#14 Missed the memo, but it works for me.

43. Ron J Posted: September 04, 2010 at 09:11 AM (#3633444)

It's harder to do when there are no anonymous "adios, jerk" quotes from management

Worth noting that this is a very long standing tradition in Boston. I've found quite a few quote in the 1919-1920 range about how Babe Ruth is a wonderful player but such a lousy human being that the tam is better off without him.

Team statement:

"The Boston club could no longer put up with his eccentricities. While Ruth without question is the greatest hitter that the game has seen, he is likewise one of the most inconsiderate men that ever wore a baseball uniform."

And here are a couple of other quotes from Boston papers:

"Ruth's failure to respect the club's training rules, his unwillingness to submit to any form of discipline, and the bad example he set for the other men formed a combination that President Frazee could no longer endure,"

Paul Shannon of the Boston Post

An article in the Boston Evening Transcript declared "Red Sox players doubtless will be pleased with the disposal of the incorrigible slugger, and team play should be in more evidence."

(And those grapes were probably sour in any case)

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