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Thursday, February 20, 2014

SI Kids: Max Mannis: Talking Stats at Yankees Camp

I think the wrong person is wearing the Yankee cap.

Several days ago, I opened up my first pack of 2014 Topps baseball cards. I flipped over the cards to look over the stats written on the back, and next to traditional stats, such as home runs, RBIs, wins, and saves, I saw that WAR, a sabermetric, was listed for each player. I was so excited to discover that Topps has decided to include SABR on their cards.

For those of you who don’t know, WAR is a statistic that stands for Wins Above Replacement. It shows the amount of wins or losses a player could bring to his team if he played instead of his backup. Last season, Mike Trout (9.23), Carlos Gomez (8.36), and Andrew McCutchen (8.19) led MLB in WAR. Clayton Kershaw (7.86) led pitchers in WAR last year, and he ranked fifth overall, behind Trout, Gomez, McCutchen, and Athletics third baseman Josh Donaldson (7.97).

At Yankees camp yesterday, I had the chance to speak with scout Cesar Presbott, team’s Area Scout and Supervisor, about stats and sabermetrics like WAR and how he uses them in his work.

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Repoz Posted: February 20, 2014 at 09:26 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Renegade JE (((Jason))) Posted: February 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4659563)
Something else he looks at: A player's skill, not size. He used Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia as an example, and said that Pedroia is only 5 foot 8 inches but is taller when he is on the field because of his heart.

Pedroia's heart works like an accordion? Now that I'd like to see!
   2. ursus arctos Posted: February 20, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4659804)
So, it is bWAR rather than fWAR.

Why take it to two decimal places, though? Baseball-reference only reports it to one place on the site, and going further than that just perpetuates an impression of precision that really isn't supported by the facts.
   3. Sunday silence Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:59 PM (#4659888)
I think a basehit by itself is worth approx: .045 WAR.
   4. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 20, 2014 at 04:35 PM (#4659922)
They probably take it to two decimal places because all the rate stats are traditionally given with three digits (although 1.000 obviously is four digits), so they thought it looked right to have three digits for WAR, too.

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