Baseball for the Thinking Fan

Login | Register | Feedback

btf_logo
You are here > Home > Baseball Newsstand > Baseball Primer Newsblog > Discussion
Baseball Primer Newsblog
— The Best News Links from the Baseball Newsstand

Thursday, February 20, 2014

SI Kids: Max Mannis: Talking Stats at Yankees Camp

I think the wrong person is wearing the Yankee cap.

Several days ago, I opened up my first pack of 2014 Topps baseball cards. I flipped over the cards to look over the stats written on the back, and next to traditional stats, such as home runs, RBIs, wins, and saves, I saw that WAR, a sabermetric, was listed for each player. I was so excited to discover that Topps has decided to include SABR on their cards.

For those of you who don’t know, WAR is a statistic that stands for Wins Above Replacement. It shows the amount of wins or losses a player could bring to his team if he played instead of his backup. Last season, Mike Trout (9.23), Carlos Gomez (8.36), and Andrew McCutchen (8.19) led MLB in WAR. Clayton Kershaw (7.86) led pitchers in WAR last year, and he ranked fifth overall, behind Trout, Gomez, McCutchen, and Athletics third baseman Josh Donaldson (7.97).

At Yankees camp yesterday, I had the chance to speak with scout Cesar Presbott, team’s Area Scout and Supervisor, about stats and sabermetrics like WAR and how he uses them in his work.

ANSWER THE QUESTION!

Repoz Posted: February 20, 2014 at 09:26 AM | 4 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: sabermetrics, yankees

Reader Comments and Retorts

Go to end of page

Statements posted here are those of our readers and do not represent the BaseballThinkFactory. Names are provided by the poster and are not verified. We ask that posters follow our submission policy. Please report any inappropriate comments.

   1. JE (Jason) Posted: February 20, 2014 at 10:14 AM (#4659563)
Something else he looks at: A player's skill, not size. He used Red Sox second baseman Dustin Pedroia as an example, and said that Pedroia is only 5 foot 8 inches but is taller when he is on the field because of his heart.

Pedroia's heart works like an accordion? Now that I'd like to see!
   2. ursus arctos Posted: February 20, 2014 at 02:39 PM (#4659804)
So, it is bWAR rather than fWAR.

Why take it to two decimal places, though? Baseball-reference only reports it to one place on the site, and going further than that just perpetuates an impression of precision that really isn't supported by the facts.
   3. Sunday silence Posted: February 20, 2014 at 03:59 PM (#4659888)
I think a basehit by itself is worth approx: .045 WAR.
   4. Dr. Vaux Posted: February 20, 2014 at 04:35 PM (#4659922)
They probably take it to two decimal places because all the rate stats are traditionally given with three digits (although 1.000 obviously is four digits), so they thought it looked right to have three digits for WAR, too.

You must be Registered and Logged In to post comments.

 

 

<< Back to main

BBTF Partner

Support BBTF

donate

Thanks to
Jim Wisinski
for his generous support.

Bookmarks

You must be logged in to view your Bookmarks.

Hot Topics

NewsblogOTP - September 2015: Making Sense Of The Republican Presidential Race: It's Like Major League Baseball In August
(166 - 6:34am, Sep 02)
Last: David Nieporent (now, with children)

NewsblogThe Atlantic: The Many Problems With 'Moneyball'
(81 - 6:17am, Sep 02)
Last: Super Creepy Derek Lowe (GGC)

NewsblogAngels seek quick resolution for GM opening - The Orange County Register
(5 - 4:05am, Sep 02)
Last: A New Leaf

NewsblogMike Mussina's Hall of Fame case is strong, so why aren't voters buying it?
(57 - 3:15am, Sep 02)
Last: Joyful Calculus Instructor

NewsblogOT: Monthly NBA Thread - August 2015
(167 - 1:38am, Sep 02)
Last: theboyqueen

NewsblogAppellate court sides with MLB in minimum wage lawsuit
(6 - 1:33am, Sep 02)
Last: boteman asks Where's My Ring?

NewsblogOMNICHATTER 9-1-2015
(142 - 1:00am, Sep 02)
Last: Joyful Calculus Instructor

NewsblogJonny Gomes headed to Royals in trade from Braves
(3 - 12:55am, Sep 02)
Last: bbmck

NewsblogFan dies in fall from upper deck at Turner Field | www.ajc.com
(277 - 12:42am, Sep 02)
Last: CrosbyBird

NewsblogJake Arrieta throws no-hitter against Dodgers | MLB.com
(51 - 12:15am, Sep 02)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogBraves’ record, attendance both in decline since 42-42 | www.ajc.com
(19 - 12:02am, Sep 02)
Last: bigglou115

NewsblogBabe Ruth’s Former New York Apartment Can Be Bought For Just $1.6M (Photos) | MLB | NESN.com
(9 - 11:51pm, Sep 01)
Last: Cloude Atlas (Voxter)

NewsblogDon’t let Bird’s bad night jump-start terrible A-Rod experiment | New York Post
(24 - 11:21pm, Sep 01)
Last: Walt Davis

NewsblogForbes: Maury Brown: MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred Rejects Reinstatement Of 'Shoeless' Joe Jackson
(29 - 10:17pm, Sep 01)
Last: cardsfanboy

NewsblogOT: Soccer August 2015
(634 - 9:43pm, Sep 01)
Last: The John Wetland Memorial Death (CoB)

Page rendered in 0.1618 seconds
44 querie(s) executed