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Wednesday, May 01, 2019

Slumping Bryce Harper hears boos as Phillies end April with 4 hits and a loss

Bryce Harper almost made it through the month of April without getting booed.

Almost.

Harper heard the salty sounds of disappointment as he walked back to the dugout after striking out in the bottom of the eighth inning in the Phillies’ 3-1 loss to the Detroit Tigers at Citizens Bank Park on Tuesday night.

The strikeout, Harper’s second of the night, capped a tough inning for the Phillies’ $330-million man. He dropped a ball in right field in the top half of the frame.

Given certain aspects of Harper’s character combined with certain aspects of his play over his career, how long before he winds up deeply regretting signing a long-term contract with Philadelphia?

 

QLE Posted: May 01, 2019 at 05:48 AM | 17 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: bryce harper, fans, phillies

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   1. Captain Supporter Posted: May 01, 2019 at 02:12 PM (#5837258)
...how long before he winds up deeply regretting signing a long-term contract with Philadelphia?


Without opining on the reasonableness of the above question on 5/1 of the first year of his contract, I'd note that the question could just as easily have been phrased '...how long before the Phillies wind up regretting signing a long-term $300M+ contract with Harper'.

   2. Stormy JE Posted: May 01, 2019 at 03:21 PM (#5837307)
Wake us when Duracell batteries start flying off the shelves.
   3. Zonk is not as Outlandish as he could be Posted: May 01, 2019 at 04:58 PM (#5837354)
I'm not certain it's possible to deeply regret anything that guarantees you 330 million.... well, some things I suppose, but none that involve playing baseball.
   4. Panik on the streets of Flushing! (Trout! Trout!) Posted: May 01, 2019 at 05:24 PM (#5837369)
Wake us when Duracell batteries start flying off the shelves.


When generic brand batteries just won't do
   5. Walt Davis Posted: May 01, 2019 at 05:33 PM (#5837371)
Yes, I suspect he gets a little boost of happiness every couple of weeks or so.

Scary is that the early Rfield numbers are not good at -3. Statcast agrees. He is looking more Ryan Howard-ish ... and 1B is "blocked." He could use the DH in the NL right now it seems.

Looking at Statcast -- holy moly, Ramon Laureano may have a great arm but this statcast says he's already -6 on catches, worst in baseball to date. That's comping a "CF" to the average OF too so that's really bad. (TZ and DRS essentially agree on plays made but they add his throws to move him to average ovverall.)
   6. BillWallace Posted: May 01, 2019 at 06:17 PM (#5837382)
Pre-contract I was one of the ones advancing the idea that his defensive numbers last year should be taken with heavy doses of salt. And not just because it's a single year of defensive numbers, but because he was obviously half-assing it out there, possibly to avoid getting injured in his contract year.

But I've watched probably more of him this year already than I did last and I'm starting to come around more to the view that he might just be a pretty terrible defender, effort level aside. Could be eating crow on that one for a long time.

Look for the Phillies to be a reliable YES vote on the whole DH in the NL vote going forward :)
   7. Bote Man sez Davey is MoY Posted: May 01, 2019 at 08:12 PM (#5837411)
I mean, the Nationals don't regret NOT signing Harper, so...
   8. puck Posted: May 01, 2019 at 09:51 PM (#5837436)
When generic brand batteries just won't do


And in this age, most of the batteries around are those little watch batteries, or maybe AAA's. How far are those things going to fly?
   9. Sunday silence Posted: May 01, 2019 at 10:43 PM (#5837444)
Harper's current DRS projects to -18.5 runs. See! I knew a guy like that couldn't be -26 runs bad defensively.
   10. Sunday silence Posted: May 01, 2019 at 10:52 PM (#5837446)
He is looking more Ryan Howard-ish ... and 1B is "blocked."


I mentioned this aspect of the signing at the time; but as I recall you didnt think it was that much of an issue. Trading Hoskins would seem counter productive as he is at the cost controlled part of his career.
   11. Howie Menckel Posted: May 01, 2019 at 10:59 PM (#5837448)
And in this age, most of the batteries around are those little watch batteries, or maybe AAA's.

the 9V is your weapon of choice here
   12. Meatwad Posted: May 01, 2019 at 11:15 PM (#5837449)
The D cell never goes out of fashion.
   13. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: May 02, 2019 at 12:44 AM (#5837468)
Good hitter, bad fielder, not a superstar. Maybe one day he'll prove me wrong, but that appears to be who he is and has been for some time, and the people who believe otherwise are wishcasting based on one fluke season and the number of times he's been on the cover of SI.
   14. bunyon Posted: May 02, 2019 at 05:31 AM (#5837472)
Yes, but he puts up his “good” hitting numbers with long stretches of Chris Davisness. He’s not going to stop having month long slumps just because he’s rich(er).
   15. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: May 02, 2019 at 08:14 AM (#5837476)
Yes, but he puts up his “good” hitting numbers with long stretches of Chris Davisness.
Since he got his first hit, Chris Davis is hitting 325/357/625. The Phillies would take a long stretch of that!

   16. Sweatpants Posted: May 02, 2019 at 10:20 AM (#5837517)
Good hitter, bad fielder, not a superstar. Maybe one day he'll prove me wrong, but that appears to be who he is and has been for some time, and the people who believe otherwise are wishcasting based on one fluke season and the number of times he's been on the cover of SI.
The thing is that his fluke season pretty much validated all of that hype. It wasn't like Ryan Ludwick's big season, or Ken Caminiti's or Derrek Lee's. You have to have a certain level of ability to reach a 198 OPS+. If you look around at all the players who have reached that mark from 1900 onward, it's pretty much nothing but outstanding hitters. The worst ones are guys like Sosa (128 career OPS+), Yastrzemski (130), and Brett (135), all generally regarded as great hitters. There are guys like Kevin Mitchell, whom nobody considers a HOF player, but that didn't have anything to do with his hitting ability.

Maybe Harper is more Kevin Mitchell than Mickey Mantle, but I don't blame anyone for believing that he has superstar potential in him and hoping that he reaches it. Expecting it or paying for it is a different thing, though.
   17. SoSH U at work Posted: May 02, 2019 at 11:52 AM (#5837551)
I feel really weird. I was firmly in the Voxter camp when it came to Harper, believing spending that kind of money on the player he is was just batshit insane, and was mystified that so many here seemed to think otherwise. But as I have nothing against either Harper of the Phillies, I really don't want to be proved right.

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