On Tuesday, that chasm may have lessened a bit. With the inclusion of Carson Cistulli, Eno Sarris, Sam Miller, and Joe Hamrahi, the online baseball community now has more representation in the BBWAA. I think that is a good thing and I suppose I’m supposed to go on and tell you why. I think it’s a good thing because these gentleman bring qualities to the BBWAA that, stereotypically, haven’t existed much in the past. These guys are well versed in advanced statistics. The know how they work and what they aim to accomplish. They also understand their limits and their margins for error. I would say they know how to responsibly apply new numbers to baseball analysis while also supplementing them with additional sources and methods. Additional methods like, say, scouting reports and video analysis and things like that. Despite popular opinion, it is not required that one pledge pure allegiance to only statistics, or only scouting and eye-seeing in baseball. There exists the possibility, get this, of combining the two (!), of using all available information available to make arguments and draw conclusions. Quaint, I know.
...If we accept that we care about post-season awards, and by extension, the Hall of Fame, then it becomes important that the voters are open-minded, inquisitive individuals, willing to write about, discuss, and argue their votes and selections. Right now, this is not the case. Voters lie in anonymity, sometimes presenting nonsensical ballots with zero explanation or accountability. History swings on the whims of the uninformed and silent. Awards voting and Hall of Fame selecting can only improve and regain respectability if the process becomes open and accessible, understandable and defensible, and what better stewards of such a revolution than people who write about baseball daily on the internet? Members who interact with readers and other writers through Twitter, and comment threads, and Email, and all sorts of other electronic marvels. One is much more likely to take one’s BBWAA responsibilities seriously if one is held to a high communal standard by one’s peers, isn’t one? Writers who live visibly in the light of the internet make better members than those who hide in the darkness of whatever not the internet is (real life)?
So here’s to progress, and the new BBWAA members, and to improving the process. Here’s to taking baseball super, super seriously, but not too seriously, of course.
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1. TomH Posted: December 06, 2012 at 11:03 AM (#4318504)Intro primey
Related: This is pretty funny
The majority of his page was put together by one user, someone at the IP address 193.251.43.248. That user has made 267 edits, of which 171 were to Cistulli's page or its talk page. This is sort of misleading, because 193.251.43.248 has the habit of making lots of changes in small increments, which is annoying when looking at a history page but which allows us to traces his or her movements with some degree of accuracy. It would appear, for example, that from January 1-2, 2011 (UTC time) our 193.251.43.248 made 34 changes to the page over a period of 8 hours. Previously, on November 25th, 2010, 193.251.43.248 spent 7 hours making changes to the page. Our 193.251.43.248 also spent about 7 hours on the page on December 1.
What's funny is that 193.251.43.248 is an IP address in Paris, which is probably a spoofed address. 11/25/2010 was Thanksgiving in the US, and 7 hours screwing around on Wikipedia makes more sense for an American on a holiday than for a Parisian on a random Thursday. Also, the January 1 or 1-2 edits were either done from about 3 pm to 9:20 pm US East Coast time, or 10 pm to 5:30 am Paris time. Which sounds more likely? Overall, there are tons of edits that look like they're either done at something like 4 or 5 am Paris time, which is a much more reasonable 9 or 10 pm on the East Coast.
Before 193.251.43.248 got involved, the page looked like this.
The Bunn Family.
What is this, I don't even...
215 references about a person/place/thing I have NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE is really impressive.
Longer than Joe's?
I am a historian who specializes in 19th century U.S. history. I had never heard of the family before and after the reading the Wikipedia pages, I still wonder why anyone outside a relative cares.
74 footnotes? David Foster Wallace would approve.
Based on one of his blogs, Cistulli and I likely live in the same neighborhood.
I agree with this opinion and Harvey's contention that Cistulli's a goof, although I don't think either is a bad thing.
I'm guessing a relative wrote a research paper on them, and decided it should be immortalized on wikipedia.
Not only does this needless still exist but yesterday someone fixed a typo on it. And the same guy grammar policed Cistulli's too. Wikipedia editors are a strange lot.
The page starts with details of his early life, since future scholars will undoubtedly wonder to what extent his childhood influenced theories such as "Alf would make a good color-commentator." There's even a picture of his hometown in New Hampshire, like it's the Hemingway House. Is there a sign that says, "Welcome to Concord, Historic Home of Carson Cistulli, Sabermetric Humor Blogger"? Probably not, since he's not even on the Wikipedia list of notable people from the town.
...Yet!
I'm pretty sure he has it wrong, new members are allowed to vote for the annual awards as soon as they gain admittance. I'm pretty sure Keith Law and Will Carroll were admitted in 2008 and got the right to vote.
"My blog has no nose" could be a good title for a oenophile's blog.
I think GGC is a big fan.
You are correct CFB. It's 10 years of continuous membership before you get to vote for the Hall, but you may be selected to vote in the annual awards as soon as you gain admission to the BBWAA (where, I believe, the org. limits voting to those who are actively covering baseball).
I'm more of a fan of Dayn Perry's insertion of DIck Allen's name into famous works of literature or Alex Remington's stuff, but I rarely read anything outside of BTF these days.
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