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Monday, March 29, 2010

SNY: Megdal: Is now a good time to be born a Mets fan?

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So for my daughter born in 2010, what exactly does the future have in store for her? Hard as it is to believe, Jose Reyes and David Wright will still be in their early-to-mid 30s if she comes of age as a fan when I did. In other words, they’ll be roughly the same age as Gary Carter and Keith Hernandez, or well within range for her to appreciate them, and to make the retiring of Nos. 5 and 7. I can see it now, can see holding her hand as we watch the numbers go up—meaningful for both of us.

Of course, I missed Tom Seaver, and chances are she will miss Carlos Beltran. My stories of the catch up Tal’s Hill in Houston and of all the routine chances that were only routine due to Beltran’s excellence—and the stolen-base success—will be ephemeral for her, the way it seems to be, mysteriously, for lots of current Mets fans.

That’s the big fear, of course. The 1969 Mets were a storied lot for me, but they were just that. They existed as figures in baseball history, the expansion corollary to the 1955 Brooklyn Dodgers, a team that shocked instead of a team that broke through.

The 1986 Mets were always the team that I felt. I felt that ball go through Buckner’s legs in a way I never felt that ball drop into Cleon Jones’ glove as he dropped to one knee. Davey Johnson was the Manager, not the final out.

And so I wonder just what my little girl will feel. Will she experience a championship with Wright and Reyes? If even some of the current group stay healthy and develop, perhaps she will wear a Fernando Martinez or Ike Davis jersey home from the hospital—those two, along with Jenrry Mejia, will be entering their primes when she first notices the action on the field.

Repoz Posted: March 29, 2010 at 06:00 PM | 39 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: March 29, 2010 at 06:47 PM (#3488098)
Mets fans aren't born, they're made - by a lifetime of suffering and abuse hammered into shape on the anvil of despair.
   2. Randy Jones Posted: March 29, 2010 at 06:52 PM (#3488102)
The real question is what are you going to do when she grows up and decides to be a Yankee fan?
   3. Lassus Posted: March 29, 2010 at 06:56 PM (#3488105)
The real question is what are you going to do when she grows up and decides to be a Yankee fan?

They have "schools" for these situations.
   4. SoSH U at work Posted: March 29, 2010 at 06:58 PM (#3488110)
I spent a lot of time wondering about this too Howard. Then my first two kids (boy and girl) didn't become baseball fans at all. And it doesn't matter a whit.
   5. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:00 PM (#3488113)
By the time she is old enough to care, Omar will be long gone.
   6. JMPH Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:05 PM (#3488121)
Buy low, baby.
   7. Hang down your head, Tom Foley Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:11 PM (#3488126)
I was a 1980 baby, so I was born at the ideal time in Mets history

I would have thought a couple of years earlier would be the ideal time to be born a Mets fan, but maybe you matured into baseball fanhood earlier than I did. I was eight when the White Sox had a really good year in 1983, and 30 when they won the World Series, after life and the White Sox had nearly broken me. As far as being a Chicago baseball fan goes though, I was born at the most ideal time in the last century.
   8. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:20 PM (#3488130)
I started following baseball when I was 7 myself. When I was 6, Hank Aaron broke Ruth's record, but I don't remember much about that. But I sure as hell remember 1975.
   9. The cushions are crowded for Edmundo Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:23 PM (#3488131)
Mets fans aren't born, they're made - by a lifetime of suffering and abuse hammered into shape on the anvil of despair.
I read this and I think "spoiled brat". :) Your team won two world titles in its first 25 years of existence -- my team won its second in the 126th year of existence. Before you quibble about no WS before 1903, the Phils never won a league between 1883 and 1914.
Worse yet, there is likely no Cub fan extant who celebrated their last world championship. You don't know suffering, just a few bouts of excrutiating pain. :)
   10. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:43 PM (#3488140)
You're doing kind of OK lately, Edmundo...
   11. AROM Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:58 PM (#3488149)
I think it could be a great time to be born a Mets fan. She won't really have much sense of what the team does for a few years. The current management can't possibly last much longer, and once their gone a semi-competent replacement will have a big market, lots of money to throw around, and a few high draft picks to develop.
   12. Greg Goosen at 30 Posted: March 29, 2010 at 07:59 PM (#3488152)
As Misty Beethoven said "Why have Caesar when you can have Napoleon?"
   13. Russlan will never be fond of Jason Bay Posted: March 29, 2010 at 08:06 PM (#3488154)
You're doing kind of OK lately, Edmundo...

I think that some fans of the Mets rivals have actually started to feel sorry for us/the Mets. It's kind of pathetic to be honest.
   14. Fancy Pants is braggadocious about his Handle Posted: March 29, 2010 at 08:27 PM (#3488180)
Mets fans aren't born, they're made - by a lifetime of suffering and abuse hammered into shape on the anvil of despair.

I read this and I think "spoiled brat". :)


Wait, you think I'm a met?! Could been worse I suppose, you could have pegged me as a Yankee...

FWIW My team won 5 WS in its first 25 years of existance, though I dispute that this did me much good. I will cop to have been spoilt these last 6 years though.
   15. Sam M. Posted: March 30, 2010 at 01:53 AM (#3488432)
The 1969 Mets were a storied lot for me, but they were just that.

I was born in September 1961. I was eight years old when the miracle happened -- seven through most of the 1969 season. Forget the difference of being born in 1978 or 1980. There was no better time to be growing into awareness as a Mets' fan than 1969. You just have to see my sponsorship of this B-Ref page to get it. At least I hope so. I can put up with all the Yankees' championships and all their collective arrogance, because I had Cleon Jones and Gil Hodges and Tom Seaver, especially Tom Seaver. And then I was lucky enough to be in my 20s, in New York in the mid-80s and at some of the great post-season games of 1986, too, and the great pennant race games in 1985 through 1988.

So to be nearing 50 now means I got to grow up when the Miracle Mets shocked everyone and hooked me for life, and I got to experience Doc & Darryl and Mookie. Howard's angel should be so blessed.
   16. Raskolnikov Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:02 AM (#3488438)
Buy her a Fernando Martinez jersey, Howard. Trust me.
   17. Banta Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:08 AM (#3488440)
a semi-competent replacement

No way. The Mets have to cycle through one or two horror stories before they get to their semi-competent replacement. It's just the way they roll.

On another note, the anticipation for the regular season is killing me.
   18. Sam M. Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:18 AM (#3488442)
Buy her a Fernando Martinez jersey, Howard. Trust me.

That's fine. But at some point, go with 41, too. Retro, classic, and when she's old enough you can point at the wall and tell her why.
   19. Accent Shallow Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:34 AM (#3488449)
Buy her a Fernando Martinez jersey, Howard. Trust me.

Maybe you're right, or maybe somewhere there's a friend of yours with a ten-year-old and an infant-sized Alex Escobar jersey.

(This came off as more mean-spirited than I intended)
   20. Something Other Posted: March 30, 2010 at 08:09 AM (#3488521)
Mets fans aren't born, they're made - by a lifetime of suffering and abuse hammered into shape on the anvil of despair.

I read this and I think "spoiled brat". :)
I read this and thought, "perfect".

Your team won two world titles in its first 25 years of existence -- my team won its second in the 126th year of existence. Before you quibble about no WS before 1903, the Phils never won a league between 1883 and 1914.
Well, sure, but this is the quadruple amputee telling the triple amputee how lucky he is ;).

Worse yet, there is likely no Cub fan extant who celebrated their last world championship. You don't know suffering, just a few bouts of excrutiating pain. :)
The Mets are a beautiful girl with domineering, fatheaded parents who give her money, but for too many of the wrong things. She has a bad haircult, and dowdy clothes, and regularly fails to show for important dates. You find yourself staring at walls muttering. "If only. If only..."

Get her a Mejia jersy, Howard. That kid is going to be something else.
   21. Walt Davis Posted: March 30, 2010 at 10:19 AM (#3488528)
Buy her a Fernando Martinez jersey, Howard.

Presumably Howard's already got her fully decked out in Ollie Perez gear. :-)
   22. bobm Posted: March 30, 2010 at 12:12 PM (#3488540)
[21]
Presumably Howard's already got her fully decked out in Ollie Perez gear. :-)


That way she'll learn to walk early (and often).
   23. Lassus Posted: March 30, 2010 at 12:20 PM (#3488542)
Applause
   24. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 30, 2010 at 12:48 PM (#3488557)
I read this and I think "spoiled brat". :)


Yeah, no kidding. A Mets fan would shrivel up and die like a neglected houseplant if he tried to root for the Pirates.
   25. Rowland Office Supplies Posted: March 30, 2010 at 01:30 PM (#3488576)
Frenchy will still be in his prime, too. And coming to camp in the best shape of his life and seeing the ball better than ever.
   26. alkeiper Posted: March 30, 2010 at 01:32 PM (#3488577)
Primey for 22.

I was born in '81. I have vague recollections of Mike Schmidt. At this point, I've seen the '80 Phillies coach and scout more often than play. But I got to see Utley, Howard, Victorino, Hamels, Ruiz play in the minor leagues. There's always a new generation of great players waiting.
   27. HowardMegdal Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:13 PM (#3488592)
Mirabelle Hope Megdal weighs 7 pounds, 15 ounces, and will be coming home tomorrow.
The Oliver Perez stuff was fantastic. Alas, they don't make Perez jerseys that small.
   28. JJ1986 Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:17 PM (#3488596)
My formative baseball and Mets fan years were spent watching Bobby Bonilla, Vince Coleman and the worst team that money could buy. It did kind of affect my fandom, but disinterest in the Mets also sparked my interest in paying attention to the whole of MLB. And I recovered in time to fall in love with the 99-00 teams, which will probably always be The Mets for me in the way that '86 or '69 are for luckier individuals.
   29. SoSH U at work Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:18 PM (#3488597)
Congratulations Howard.
   30. RJ in TO Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:21 PM (#3488598)
Mirabelle Hope Megdal weighs 7 pounds, 15 ounces, and will be coming home tomorrow.

Congratulations Howard, and please don't start filling your columns with tales of baby poop.

As to the jerseys, you might be surprised - a while ago, a friend of mine was able to find a baby-sized Leaf jersey for his new nephew.
   31. HowardMegdal Posted: March 30, 2010 at 02:26 PM (#3488603)
Congratulations Howard, and please don't start filling your columns with tales of baby poop.

Who am I, Wallace Matthews?

As to the jerseys, you might be surprised - a while ago, a friend of mine was able to find a baby-sized Leaf jersey for his new nephew.

It's hit or miss, which really surprised me. I figured personalized baby jerseys would be standard by now. I did find a Mo Vaughn bib, which I plan to save for baby's cluster feedings.
   32. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: March 30, 2010 at 05:26 PM (#3488763)
Congrats, Howard! Mazel tov!
   33. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: March 30, 2010 at 05:32 PM (#3488769)
Alas, they don't make Perez jerseys that small.


Maybe a nice game-used Joe McEwing, then?

Oh, and congratulations.
   34. Lassus Posted: March 30, 2010 at 05:44 PM (#3488780)
Tell me that your daughter was actually born DURING the fantasy draft, because that would be awesome.

Congrats, Howard, for your incredibly small part so far. In 20 years, the congratulations will be much more well-deserved.
   35. RJ in TO Posted: March 30, 2010 at 05:52 PM (#3488790)
Congrats, Howard, for your incredibly small part so far.

Dick jokes are inappropriate at a time like this.
   36. The District Attorney Posted: March 30, 2010 at 07:14 PM (#3488873)
Is now a good time to be born a Mets fan?
Obviously not.
   37. HowardMegdal Posted: March 31, 2010 at 03:40 AM (#3489189)
Notice that it didn't stop me from getting both Lastings Milledge and Oliver Perez. I thanked my daughter already.
   38. Lassus Posted: March 31, 2010 at 04:55 AM (#3489222)
Ollie was pitching like he was nine and a half months pregnant today, sadly.
   39. Something Other Posted: March 31, 2010 at 11:15 AM (#3489309)
Ollie was pitching like he was nine and a half months pregnant today, sadly.
I was impressed to read that the FO is likely to push him back to the fifth slot so that the rotation will look like this:

Santana
Pelfrey
Niese
Maine
Perez

That means Ollie will get all of 2 starts in April if the Mets keep their other pitchers going on four days rest.

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