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Sunday, June 21, 2009

Sony scraps Soderbergh’s ‘Moneyball’

Columbia Pictures has dropped the ball on “Moneyball,” the Steven Soderbergh-directed Brad Pitt-starrer that was supposed to begin production Monday in Phoenix.

On Friday, Columbia Pictures topper Amy Pascal placed the picture into “limited turnaround,” giving the filmmaker the chance to set it up at another studio, with Warner Bros. and Paramount the prime targets.

The move came after Pascal read the final draft delivered last week by Steve Zaillian and Steven Soderbergh and found it very different from the earlier scripts she championed. Pascal was uncomfortable enough with how Steven Soderbergh’s vision had changed that she applied the brakes.

Soderbergh and Pitt’s CAA reps spent the weekend attempting to get another studio to play ball in a game that will play out until Monday. If a new financier doesn’t emerge by tomorrow, Columbia will re-examine options that include replacing Soderbergh (and hoping that Pitt doesn’t ankle), delaying the film until she and the filmmaker find themselves in synch on the script, or pulling the plug.

Even in the climate of heightened studio caution, the turnaround news on “Moneyball” is surprising, given that had reached the equivalent of third base. The picture was just 96 hours before the participants were ready to take the field, following three months of prep and with camera tests completed and cast and budget in place.

Tripon Posted: June 21, 2009 at 06:11 PM | 38 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Harry Balsagne's transparent jealousy Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:39 PM (#3227203)
Before all you poo-pooers get beside yourselves with mirth, let me say that the likelihood that this gets picked up by another studio is about 98%.
   2. Vaux, A.B.D. Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:42 PM (#3227207)
Why? It seemed crazy enough to me that one studio almost did it.
   3. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:44 PM (#3227210)
Limited turnaround pictures are the new market inefficiency.
   4. Repoz Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:45 PM (#3227211)
likelihood that this gets picked up by another studio is about 98%.

Troma time! With Fleishaker as Jeremy Brown!
   5. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:45 PM (#3227212)
options that include replacing Soderbergh (and hoping that Pitt doesn’t ankle)

pardon me?

is this a common expression I've never heard?
   6. Harry Balsagne's transparent jealousy Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:46 PM (#3227213)
What seems so crazy about it?

Look, I understand that the book doesn't seem like it would be filmable, but it wouldn't have gotten as far as it did if someone didn't have a fairly inspired idea on how to translate it. Soderbergh and Pitt aren't just a couple of nobodies in the industry--they're pretty talented people who know what they're doing with a movie.

Keep in mind that anything we've heard about this movie is coming from the entertainment media, not generally known for its journalistic integrity.

I can see the film being more about the story of the book, the characters, and the phenomena surrounding Beane and sabermetrics, rather than just the book's content on screen.
   7. Spivey Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:51 PM (#3227216)
options that include replacing Soderbergh (and hoping that Pitt doesn’t ankle)


pardon me?

is this a common expression I've never heard?


I think it was a typo. They didn't mean ankle, they meant cankle.
   8. Tricky Dick Posted: June 21, 2009 at 11:55 PM (#3227218)
Art Howe had been on Astros' post-game television broadcasts recently. He mentioned that he would be taking time out from the broadcasts in order to go to Phoenix to prepare for the film. He also said something like he was nervous to meet Brad Pitt. Maybe this means we will see him on more Astros' post game shows.
   9. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: June 22, 2009 at 12:03 AM (#3227222)
is this a common expression I've never heard?


It's common only in Variety.
   10. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: June 22, 2009 at 12:11 AM (#3227227)
I hope somebody picks it up. I still want to see animated Bill James.
   11. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: June 22, 2009 at 12:22 AM (#3227238)
stix nix hix pix
   12. Shock Posted: June 22, 2009 at 12:23 AM (#3227241)

is this a common expression I've never heard?


They meant Ankiel.
   13. Los Angeles Waterloo of Black Hawk Posted: June 22, 2009 at 12:28 AM (#3227248)
Variety has its own crazy jargon. You can even look up a glossary on their website. To "ankle" is to leave, you can "ankle" a movie or an agency or a studio or whatever.
   14. AndrewJ Posted: June 22, 2009 at 12:50 AM (#3227260)
And "torpid mitting" means weak audience response.
   15. TedBerg Posted: June 22, 2009 at 01:07 AM (#3227268)
WTF? Art Howe didn't light up the room for Amy Pascal?
   16. Athletic Supporter leads the nation in drifters Posted: June 22, 2009 at 01:12 AM (#3227273)
Art Howe didn't light up the room for Amy Pascal?

For shame, Ted, this is a family website.
   17. andrewberg Posted: June 22, 2009 at 01:24 AM (#3227280)
For all I have heard of variety, I think this is the first time I have read anything they have published. I guess I wasn't missing much, except the verb ankle.
   18. Eternal Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:20 AM (#3227306)
I've heard that the script is going to be redone by the people who did Baby Geniuses. It'll be an all-baby cast, and renamed Baby Moneyball.
   19. The District Attorney Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:36 AM (#3227315)
WTF? Art Howe didn't light up the room for Amy Pascal?
They battled out there.

I've heard that the script is going to be redone by the people who did Baby Geniuses. It'll be an all-baby cast, and renamed Baby Moneyball.
Worked okay for the Muppets. But like Muppet Babies, it should be a cartoon, and it should focus on sabermetricians, with animated Bill James in the Kermit role, animated Rob Neyer as Scooter, etc. (There is, obviously, no Miss Piggy.)
   20. Boots Day Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:41 AM (#3227317)
It would have been very cool to see Brad Pitt tell the real Art Howe to stand on the top step.
   21. Jeff K. Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:42 AM (#3227318)
stix nix hix pix

Nice!
   22. Hector Moreda & The Generalissimo Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:44 AM (#3227320)
(There is, obviously, no Miss Piggy.)


Of course not. They're not selling jeans.
   23. Jeff K. Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:48 AM (#3227322)
Before all you poo-pooers get beside yourselves with mirth, let me say that the likelihood that this gets picked up by another studio is about 98%.

LABaWaHoo is the obvious go-to guy on this sort of thing, but as he and I are likely the only two that actually do read Daily Variety (Variety is the NYC one, to note) while I agree this is likely to get picked up in turnaround with Columbia staying in at least a limited financing role, the 98% number presented here is wishcasting.

Soderbergh is not without smirches on his resume (whatever you think of all that was done to Out of Sight, it is in the end about money, and that isn't the only one), and Pitt is not a guaranteed draw, even with a name director. Ask Marty Brest and Meet Joe Black, though by all accounts that was square in Brest's love affair with his 3-hour cut, even in the face of critics (DV's own Peter Bart screened it before release and told him to cut an hour) noting otherwise.
   24. The District Attorney Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:50 AM (#3227325)
What was done to Out of Sight? Because it came out great.
   25. Jeff K. Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:52 AM (#3227326)
Christ, I just noticed that there was a Smithee credit on MJB, and wondered. On some research, I see that the edited for TV and airplanes (meaning "let's not have 3-hour runtimes for a domestic flop, mmkay?") version has it. ####### Brest. And then he went out and wrote/directed Gigli and has nothing since. So long, thanks for the memories of a couple of fine movies, you dick. Don't let the door hit you where the Good Lord split you.
   26. Jeff K. Posted: June 22, 2009 at 02:58 AM (#3227330)
What was done to Out of Sight? Because it came out great.

Long story short? It was always intended as a quirky fall movie, and was perfect for it. Get Shorty had succeeded there, there was no reason to think OoS wouldn't. Then, Universal decided at almost literally the last moment to make it a summer movie. Keep in mind this was summer '98. Armageddon, Godzilla, X-Files, Saving Private Ryan...this was the morass that Universal, IIRC lacking any sort of summer flick, threw OoS into with no warning and zero promotion.

(EDIT) Lethal Weapon 4, too. And Rush Hour.
(EDIT2) And Deep Impact. Truman Show. Take out Rush Hour, that was fall.
   27. Jeff K. Posted: June 22, 2009 at 03:04 AM (#3227337)
Yeah, here you go:

Projected Summer 1998 Grosses

Out of Sight debuted 6/26. A film that would depend, even in fall, on a decent opening and solid word-of-mouth (this was 1998, before the industry had completely killed that concept like they have now), had 4 days. It opened with Dr. DoLittle, a week after X-Files and Mulan had opened, and then 4 days later: Armageddon. 9 days later, Lethal Weapon 4.
   28. Jeff K. Posted: June 22, 2009 at 03:15 AM (#3227346)
For all I have heard of variety, I think this is the first time I have read anything they have published. I guess I wasn't missing much, except the verb ankle.

I have an abnormal interest in the business end of movies and TV, I know. First-time visitors to my place almost invariably note that in a very small apartment there are 4 bookshelves in the living room, and most then note one of two things: the number of baseball books, or the number of books on Hollywood business. I've got way more baseball books, of course, but it's probably much more common to run into someone with a bunch of those than someone with three different books about talent agencies (Lew Wasserman bio, a William Morris agency history, something else I'm forgetting) or four different studio histories.

So I may be in the minority, but Daily Variety is a hell of a read. Really, it's not remotely unlike following sports, though without a favorite team (I guess one could "root" for one studio or another, though why would be a question.) It's year-round, it has the same dramas, it has the same black and white outcome that doesn't necessarily reflect the best 'team' or who made the best decisions. It's its own thing, but it has the same draw, for me.
   29. Walt Davis Posted: June 22, 2009 at 11:08 AM (#3227441)
PASCAL: Steven ... what happened here?
SODERBERGH: What do you mean Amy?
AP: Well, you know I wasn't exactly pumped about the animated Bill James...
SS: C'mon, Roger Rabbit was awesome!
AP: but where did the robots come from?
SS: They're symbolic.
AP: Symbolic?
SS: Sure ... steroids, y'know.
AP: Excuse me?
SS: Yeah, see, they look like cars and planes and stuff but then they, oh I dunno, they kinda "transform" into these giant baseball players.
AP: That sound familiar to you at all?
SS: No ... it's groundbreaking. They've never seen stuff like that at Cannes.
AP: And the evil computer?
SS: Numbers are taking over baseball ... it's like HAL in 2001.
AP: And this new role for Rob Schneider ...
SS: Creative license. I combined David Forst, Grady Fuson, and Nick Swisher into one role.
AP: But Rob Schneider?
SS: He's a comic genius!!
AP: Steven, I think you've been working a little too hard lately ...
   30. Gamingboy Posted: June 22, 2009 at 11:21 AM (#3227442)
Wow, rare to see a film scrapped so late in the process. Unless it has "Superman" in the title, then it happens all the time, and when it finally does get made it ends up being hugely disappointing but does have an awesome scene involving a falling jetliner and a rescue.
   31. Repoz Posted: June 22, 2009 at 06:09 PM (#3227926)
Bumped for Paul Mazurkiewcz...
   32. Repoz Posted: June 22, 2009 at 06:25 PM (#3227961)
Re-bumper
   33. Paul The Paranoid Android Posted: June 22, 2009 at 06:31 PM (#3227978)
Eh, that'll teach me not to <strike>work</strike> visit BBTF on weekends.
   34. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: June 22, 2009 at 06:39 PM (#3228000)
Variety has its own crazy jargon. You can even look up a glossary on their website. To "ankle" is to leave, you can "ankle" a movie or an agency or a studio or whatever.

And "torpid mitting" means weak audience response.


I thought "torpid mitting" referred to Derek Jeter.
   35. phredbird Posted: June 22, 2009 at 06:52 PM (#3228027)
from LA observed, two takes on what went down:

Anne Thompson: "She's asserting her power to just say no....Pascal can afford to let this movie go because it was always a risky play, and she clearly isn't willing to take a gamble right now unless she believes in it."

David Poland: "I don't have an answer. But I am 98% sure that the simplified line being floated out there that Amy Pascal was either asserting herself or just couldn't find it in her heart to back the script changes is not the full story."

thompson writes for variety, poland has an industry blog.
   36. The District Attorney Posted: June 22, 2009 at 06:59 PM (#3228038)
I have an abnormal interest in the business end of movies and TV... Really, it's not remotely unlike following sports, though without a favorite team (I guess one could "root" for one studio or another, though why would be a question.) It's year-round, it has the same dramas, it has the same black and white outcome that doesn't necessarily reflect the best 'team' or who made the best decisions. It's its own thing, but it has the same draw, for me.
Unless said discussion takes the form of Mike & the Mad Dog devoting hours upon hours to guessing what rating a sports broadcast got... I generally very much agree with that, feel the same way.
   37. Designated Sitter (GGC) Posted: June 23, 2009 at 12:09 AM (#3228486)
Eh, that'll teach me not to work visit BBTF on weekends


??
   38. JH (in DC) Posted: June 23, 2009 at 12:53 AM (#3228562)
Variety has its own crazy jargon. You can even look up a glossary on their website. To "ankle" is to leave, you can "ankle" a movie or an agency or a studio or whatever.

You're gonna have to learn that Variety speak!

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