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Friday, March 01, 2013

Source: Vladimir Guerrero to make comeback; Rockies, Astros, Rangers not interested

Breaking news: The Rockies, Astros, and Rangers are not interested in me either. Well, the Astros might be if I’m willing to play for less tha minimum wage.

A source has told CLNS Radio that 9-time All-Star Vladimir Guerrero is attempting to make a comeback to the major leagues, and is currently in the process of reaching out to many teams to see if they are interested in him.

Guerrero, 38,  has sent a video of a recent workout to many teams, and will continue to reach out to teams throughout spring training. So far, the Colorado Rockies, Houston Astros, and Texas Rangers have indicated that they are not interested at the moment.

A team in China has also reached out to Guerrero and made him a well-paying offer, but he will not be accepting it and is looking for a job in the United States.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 10:51 AM | 30 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: astros, comeback, rangers, rockies, vladimir guerrero

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   1. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:26 AM (#4378278)
Ugh. Just hang 'em up, Vlad.

Nobody needs .250/.305/.350 from a DH in 2013.

But, Vernon Wells is making $42 million for that over the next two years, so maybe blame your agent....
   2. AROM Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:28 AM (#4378281)
Jim, you are delusional. What in the world makes you think Vernon Wells can break .300 in OBP?
   3. AROM Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:32 AM (#4378284)
Actually, there is no way Vlad could put up that line as posted. Once his power dipped the intentional walks went away, leaving little daylight between his BA and OBP. In his last year with the Orioles he hit .290 for a .317 OBP. So either he's got enough bat to hit .280, or else the OBP will be well south of .300.

That said, I would be happy to offer Vlad an outfield job. My office will be putting the softball team back together, we play games on the DC mall. This league worked for Bryce Harper, and if the Nats suffer a rash of outfield injuries, he'll be a lot closer than if he were playing in Asia.
   4. John Northey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:36 AM (#4378285)
I figured Vlad's last chance was last year with the Jays. They needed a platoon partner at DH with Lind or just to replace Lind. Strangely he seemed to hit well (358/364/679 with 4 HR in 53 AB's) but wasn't given a shot. The 'however' though is a lot of that damage was in the FSL. In AAA he hit just 303/314/424 in Vegas with 0 HR - that is quite poor given the run environment. Still, it would've been interesting to give him one last shot I thought. Maybe someone is desperate enough to give him a shot (Houston?) but I suspect the end has come.
   5. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:38 AM (#4378287)
Houston already has a half-dozen DHs. Maybe Cleveland? Tampa Bay? China seems like your best bet Vlad.
   6. Jose Can Still Seabiscuit Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:42 AM (#4378290)
The Yankees need an outfielder.
   7. Harveys Wallbangers Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:56 AM (#4378297)
i was in the dominican recently and i could have sworn i saw vlad at an event. but we were leaving and really couldn't stay so i couldn't get closer to be sure. but boy it looked like him from a distance

but then my eyes are pretty shot and i had been drinking a bit so maybe it was haley barbour for all i know...................
   8. SG Posted: March 01, 2013 at 11:56 AM (#4378298)
If Houston isn't interested, maybe he needs to reconsider.
   9. ajnrules Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:01 PM (#4378302)
He can play in Taiwan! Manny and Vlad, teammates at last!
   10. Tom Nawrocki Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:01 PM (#4378303)
Vlad seems like the type of player who has been inordinately helped by Coors Field: A righthanded hitter with medium-range power and a poor K/W ratio. That describes Bichette, Castilla, Galarraga and a few other guys who have done well for the Rockies. And really, he couldn't be much worse than Cuddyer.
   11. Delorians Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:08 PM (#4378308)
Houston isn't interested, not because he isn't great, but because he isn't young. More evidence that Houston may know what they're doing after all.
   12. John Northey Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:11 PM (#4378310)
That'd be fun - a year or two in Colorado and see if he can get to 500 HR. As an old Expos fan I'd love to see Vlad do that and then go to the HOF as an Expo. Right now I doubt he gets in though.
   13. Ryan Lind Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:13 PM (#4378315)
He might have gotten a shot last year if he'd shown a little patience instead of throwing a hissy fit over not getting called up after a couple games at aaa. You blew it Vlad. Time to let go.
   14. Jim (jimmuscomp) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:36 PM (#4378326)
Once his power dipped the intentional walks went away, leaving little daylight between his BA and OBP. In his last year with the Orioles he hit .290 for a .317 OBP. So either he's got enough bat to hit .280, or else the OBP will be well south of .300.


Yeah - I didn't look at BBRef before generating that line. I am still remembering Vlad with TEH FEAR, thus boosting his walk rate.

I really enjoyed watching Vlad for most of his time in LA, but that last year really soured me on him. He was a mess. Then the resurgence in Texas just ticked me off.
   15. CFBF Is A Golden Spider Duck Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:45 PM (#4378330)
I enjoy the headline. Vlad announces he's mounting a comeback and five minutes later three different teams announce they're not interested.

Maybe that can be this spring training's running headline.

"[Major League Team] announced today that they are also not interested in Vladimir Guerrero."
   16. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 01, 2013 at 12:50 PM (#4378338)
Sure, the Oakland A's would screen the call if Vlad gave them a ring.
   17. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:10 PM (#4378351)
Is there any chance that the Alfonso Soriano meme morphs into the Vlad meme?
   18. flournoy Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:25 PM (#4378364)
In 1997, one of the big questions was, "Who would be better, Vladimir Guerrero or Andruw Jones?" They both had great careers, but to see both of them now reduced to joke status is sad.
   19. cardsfanboy Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:31 PM (#4378367)
Is there any chance that the Alfonso Soriano meme morphs into the Vlad meme?


I was thinking the Whitey Herzog meme was more appropriate.
   20. Mike Emeigh Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:35 PM (#4378375)
My office will be putting the softball team back together, we play games on the DC mall.


People still do that, eh? I retired from mall ball 20 years ago, but maybe I could make a comeback :)

-- MWE
   21. Bourbon Samurai in Asia Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:37 PM (#4378378)
Sure, the Oakland A's would screen the call if Vlad gave them a ring.


Clearly Vlad would be a fitting add to the "great player who is a shadow of himself with the A's" list
   22. Shooty Survived the Shutdown of '14! Posted: March 01, 2013 at 01:40 PM (#4378381)
Clearly Vlad would be a fitting add to the "great player who is a shadow of himself with the A's" list

True. I think he may be too toasty even for the cameo, though.

   23. The Good Face Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:04 PM (#4378404)
In 1997, one of the big questions was, "Who would be better, Vladimir Guerrero or Andruw Jones?" They both had great careers, but to see both of them now reduced to joke status is sad.


Every player winds up at joke status if he lives long enough. Considering both Vlad and Andruw put up borderline HOF careers, I don't see much cause for sadness. I suppose you could play some "what if" with respect to Andruw and his weight, but fat or no, his career was nothing to be ashamed of.
   24. DL from MN Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:06 PM (#4378405)
In other news apparently the Twins and Jim Thome are considering a reunion.
   25. AROM Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:26 PM (#4378421)
Every player winds up at joke status if he lives long enough. Considering both Vlad and Andruw put up borderline HOF careers, I don't see much cause for sadness. I suppose you could play some "what if" with respect to Andruw and his weight, but fat or no, his career was nothing to be ashamed of.


Some players lose most of their ability but not the ego that came with the greatness. The ones who can't get a job offer to their liking as their career fades and cannot understand why. Some players can set aside the ego, and take whatever role is offered - like Jason Giambi sticking around as pinch hitter. Very few get to leave the game on their own terms the way Chipper Jones did, still playing regular at his primary position, and still one of the better players on the team.

Most ordinary players, you don't notice a fall. One day the season opens up and they just aren't there anymore.
   26. AROM Posted: March 01, 2013 at 02:29 PM (#4378423)
People still do that, eh? I retired from mall ball 20 years ago, but maybe I could make a comeback


It's pretty popular in the summer evenings. So many teams it's hard to get a spot. We've applied for a field permit, but those are limited. We didn't get one last year so we had to have someone stake out an open field for 3-4 hours before game time.
   27. Ray (RDP) Posted: March 01, 2013 at 03:20 PM (#4378451)
He's got nothing left. To steal an old Baseball Prospectus line, he's come back from a bad season before, but he's never been this old or this bad before.

And he's missed a year.
   28. RMc's desperate, often sordid world Posted: March 01, 2013 at 03:53 PM (#4378483)
Vlad's done. Hall?
   29. Walt Davis Posted: March 01, 2013 at 05:12 PM (#4378555)
Hall?

Borderline yes on getting voted in. 318 career BA, MVP, 3 other top 5 finishes (man they loved voting for him on the Angels), 9 AS games, seems popular with the press, could use a BA/HR/RBI title or two though. His career sim players is actually not a bad list -- Bagwell, Walker, Rice, Stargell, B Williams at the top. He's obviously better than Rice and there's no reason he shouldn't get the Williams/Stargell treatment but then there's no reason he shouldn't get the Walker/McGriff treatment.

On deserve? At least borderline obviously. That 318 BA pushes him up to a 379 career OBP which ain't bad (but not amazing for the era). I think I'd put him behind Edgar which probably has him just on the outside of my personal HoF.

I am surprised that even with 9000 PA he only adds up to 55 WAR. He's not getting mauled for defense, baserunning or DPs.

Lance Berkman is really having a quietly outstanding career.
   30. Random Transaction Generator Posted: March 01, 2013 at 07:52 PM (#4378676)
In 1997, one of the big questions was, "Who would be better, Vladimir Guerrero or Andruw Jones?" They both had great careers, but to see both of them now reduced to joke status is sad.


It took me a minute to realize that it was SIXTEEN YEARS AGO.

I'm going to go lie down now.

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