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Thursday, July 03, 2014

Sources: Alfredo Aceves suspended 50 games after positive drug test

Former Yankees and Red Sox pitcher Alfredo Aceves was suspended 50 games after a drug test came back positive for a so-called drug of abuse, major league sources told Yahoo Sports.

Juicer.  I had always hoped he was just naturally that insane but it turns out he had some help.

Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: July 03, 2014 at 02:43 PM | 21 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: drugs, red sox, suspensions, yankees

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   1. Nasty Nate Posted: July 03, 2014 at 04:32 PM (#4742835)
Juicer. I had always hoped he was just naturally that insane but it turns out he had some help.


I don't think these drug test fails are for being juiced.
   2. RJ in TO Posted: July 03, 2014 at 04:36 PM (#4742837)
The drug of abuse is apparently marijuana.
   3. depletion Posted: July 03, 2014 at 04:42 PM (#4742842)
I am somewhat pro-legalization, but I always wonder about the state of mind that leads someone to blow potentially millions of dollars in order to smoke weed. The worst case are college footballers who are pro prospects and fail a test at the combine. Everyone in the world knows they're going to be tested then, and they fail anyway, dropping a round or two or even going undrafted.
   4. Nasty Nate Posted: July 03, 2014 at 04:52 PM (#4742848)
I am somewhat pro-legalization, but I always wonder about the state of mind that leads someone to blow potentially millions of dollars in order to smoke weed.
Your point stands, but in this case Aceves isn't costing himself that kind of money.
   5. Swedish Chef Posted: July 03, 2014 at 05:12 PM (#4742857)
The drug of abuse is apparently marijuana.

That can't be it, MLB players can't be suspended for marijuana, only fined and lectured.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: July 03, 2014 at 05:14 PM (#4742859)
He's a minor leaguer.
   7. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: July 03, 2014 at 05:48 PM (#4742876)

I don't think these drug test fails are for being juiced.


Yeah, I know. The joke is that he 'juiced' his insanity by taking PCP or something. But, obviously, if a joke needs explaining, it wasn't a good one.
   8. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: July 03, 2014 at 06:16 PM (#4742885)
Major league veteran pitching in the minors almost immediately getting suspended for a "drug of abuse" = marijuana, pretty much 100%.

Also, man, that Sources guy gets all the good scoops.
   9. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: July 03, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4742912)
Major league veteran pitching in the minors almost immediately getting suspended for a "drug of abuse" = marijuana, pretty much 100%.

It could easily be coke.
   10. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: July 03, 2014 at 07:33 PM (#4742935)
Could be, but I'd lay 10-to-1 on marijuana.
   11. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: July 03, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4742939)
Could be, but I'd lay 10-to-1 on marijuana


Don't do it, gateway bet.
   12. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: July 03, 2014 at 07:36 PM (#4742941)
I LOL'd.
   13. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: July 03, 2014 at 07:42 PM (#4742942)
My guess: He smoked while in the majors, got sent down (and off the 40-man) and then failed a test. May not have even smoked after being demoted but he tested positive all the same.
   14. Dock Ellis Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:18 PM (#4743060)
Your point stands, but in this case Aceves isn't costing himself that kind of money.

As long as he doesn't get caught again, or it's a 100 game suspension. If he is smoking weed without giving a sht about the consequences of getting caught by his employers, it's likely he won't give much of a sht if he gets caught a second time.

Takes one to know one I guess but if you have better control over your vices and you're able to say no when you know it can fck sht up for you, then you do it in the offseason.

May not have even smoked after being demoted but he tested positive all the same.

Snort a few lines and that's out of your system in three days. Take puff and you could be paying for it two weeks later.
   15. puck Posted: July 03, 2014 at 11:38 PM (#4743073)
   16. Bote Man Posted: July 04, 2014 at 01:29 AM (#4743097)
Interesting timing, given Dirk Hayhurst's recent article on how marijuana is tolerated by MLB clubs.

And a few states. It's like a slow-motion unwinding of Prohibition.
   17. ellsbury my heart at wounded knee Posted: July 04, 2014 at 01:41 AM (#4743100)
And a few states. It's like a slow-motion unwinding of Prohibition.


Supposedly in Washington they'll finally be getting around to opening their first retail marijuana stores next week. It'll probably be a mess at first (not enough supply for the likely huge demand), but they've been doing such a soft open on the whole thing I wonder if anyone outside of the PNW will even notice that it happened. Even in Seattle it's been surprisingly low-key for such a historic event.

Watch out for a higher than average amount of spacing out by the M's next week.
   18. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2014 at 02:34 AM (#4743113)
As long as he doesn't get caught again, or it's a 100 game suspension.

The point is the suspensions for drugs of abuse only operate in the minors ... unless he displays "flagrant disregard" for the treatment program or is deemed to be a danger to other players.

You can still make pretty good regular people money as a vet AAAA starter but I assume vet minor-league relievers make nothing.
   19. if nature called, ladodger34 would listen Posted: July 04, 2014 at 02:50 AM (#4743117)

You can still make pretty good regular people money as a vet AAAA starter but I assume vet minor-league relievers make nothing.


IIRC, Hayhurst did okay with a minor league deal that last year he played in the Rays system. Not ML money, but way better than what he made when was in AAA and climbing the ladder. It might have been about him or another player (my brain is fried at this moment from homebrew) but he seemed to indicate that guys in AAA that were minor league free agents did okay for themselves.
   20. Walt Davis Posted: July 04, 2014 at 07:15 PM (#4743641)
Could be but I note he was a starting pitcher for Durham. As I said, AAAA starting pitchers can make good regular people money. Same for starting position players. But aceves is a reliever with an ERA and FIP over 5 in his last 140 ML IP Oops, I see he has been starting in the minors as well so he probably was making OK money.
   21. PASTE, Now with Extra Pitch and Extra Stamina Posted: July 04, 2014 at 10:54 PM (#4743733)
I believe Triple-A-level minor league free agents typically get in the very low six figures per year on their minor league contracts.

I am honestly curious why the Rays thought Hayhurst was worth a look in 2011. He'd posted pretty good ratios as a minor league reliever in 2009, but he missed all of 2010 rehabbing from shoulder surgery and already had the reputation of being unpopular in the clubhouse and overfriendly with the media (which makes front offices nervous, not just fellow players; Hayhurst actually alluded to that at the end of his last book).

He also had the reputation of being a smart and thoughtful guy, so maybe they wanted to feel him out as a potential future coach or scout or so forth, I don't know.

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