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Sources: Kelly Blair made boasts about juicing Clemens, Pettitte & Bagwell

Blair, who was recently questioned by federal agents conducting the Roger Clemens perjury investigation, regaled visitors to his Pasadena gym with stories about providing drugs to Clemens, Andy Pettitte, Jeff Bagwell and other professional athletes, according to sources. Bagwell, Pettitte and Clemens were teammates on the Houston Astros in 2004 and 2005.

“Kelly wanted everybody to know he worked with the big guys,” says one friend with close ties to Blair and the gym, who requested anonymity because that person feared retribution from Blair and his friends. “He wanted to be known as the guy behind the professional athletes.”

That is in stark contrast to the account he gave recently to a reporter from ESPN.com, in which he admitted to having dealt steroids and used steroids and HGH but said he told the investigators he did not provide HGH to Clemens or to Pettitte’s father, Tom. Blair, who told ESPN.com that Andy Pettitte visited his gym once, recently removed a photograph of Pettitte and himself from his Web site.

“I told them everything,” Blair said of his March interview with the FBI. “I told them what I done in the past. I didn’t get Tommy Pettitte growth hormone. I didn’t get Roger Clemens growth hormone.”

But another source close to Blair and the gym tells a different story. That source saw Blair load steroids and human growth hormone into a box with separate compartments for what the source said Blair described as each player’s drug regimen: a combination of Deca Durabolin, HGH and Winstrol in the compartments.

“There were three separate portions,” the source said. “Not all of them were the same because they were all taking different——.”

When the source asked Blair if the drugs were for sale, the trainer said they were not.

“I asked him, ‘Hey, is this stuff for sale?’” the source said. And he was like, ‘No, that stuff’s going to Clemens, Bagwell and Pettitte.”

 

 

marko Posted: May 25, 2008 at 04:53 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. rfloh Posted: May 25, 2008 at 11:11 AM (#2793859)
a combination of Deca Durabolin, HGH and Winstrol in the compartments.


Deca? A strange choice. Easily detected in any testing.
   2. RJ in TO Posted: May 25, 2008 at 02:55 PM (#2793911)
Deca? A strange choice. Easily detected in any testing.


Does it really matter that something was easliy detected during testing when, until a couple years ago, there wasn't any testing?
   3. Heinie Mantush (Krusty) Posted: May 25, 2008 at 03:52 PM (#2793940)

Does it really matter that something was easliy detected during testing when, until a couple years ago, there wasn't any testing?


In 2004 and 2005, there was testing. It may not have been perfect, but Deca is the sort of stuff that would almost certainly turn up in any urine sample. Isn't Deca the stuff that Jason Giambi was using before he came to BALCO? I recall that he was laughed at for how obvious any PED's would be in his system. More recently, Deca was named as Troy Glaus' drug of choice.

What surprises me is how old school this cocktail would have been. I'd have imagined star big leaguers would have moved on to better stuff by 04-05. At least the BALCO boys were using undetectable stuff.

EDIT : A cursory glance at what the Mitchell Report claimed players were using seems to lean towards Deca/Winstrol as a very popular combo. Egg + my face = :(

I still think it's odd that big leaguers would be using stuff like that once testing was underway. Unless it was for offseason cycling.
   4. Lassus Posted: May 25, 2008 at 03:55 PM (#2793943)
What surprises me is how old school this cocktail would have been. I'd have imagined star big leaguers would have moved on to better stuff by 04-05. At least the BALCO boys were using undetectable stuff.

It's been pretty clearly shown that a number of star athletes aren't exactly Rhodes Scholars/MENSA members.
   5. RJ in TO Posted: May 25, 2008 at 04:03 PM (#2793948)
In 2004 and 2005, there was testing. It may not have been perfect, but Deca is the sort of stuff that would almost certainly turn up in any urine sample.


True, but a lot of the suspected PED use predates that, and we don't know which players moved on and which didn't. Keep in mind that Clemens (and many others) was accused of use starting in the 97/98 period - well before these testing policies came into play.

With respect to more recent years, we also don't know what masking agents were available for the players which did keep using the more primitive PEDs.

Incidentally, I didn't realise that Glaus failed a test, as I certainly don't remember him serving a suspension. I thought he got caught because of a delivery to his house.
   6. Lassus Posted: May 25, 2008 at 04:22 PM (#2793961)
Incidentally, I didn't realise that Glaus failed a test, as I certainly don't remember him serving a suspension. I thought he got caught because of a delivery to his house.

I don't know about Glaus, but that IS how Kelley Deal got caught.
   7. Tom Nawrocki Posted: May 25, 2008 at 05:20 PM (#2794001)
So do you think that's going to keep Kelley Deal out of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?

I think Butch Hobson got nailed getting a FedEx package, too.
   8. Repoz Posted: May 25, 2008 at 05:32 PM (#2794008)
So do you think that's going to keep Kelley Deal out of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame?

I hope SABR finds a way to keep me out of the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame...
   9. Posada Posse Posted: May 25, 2008 at 07:23 PM (#2794067)
Winstrol's easy to detect too, if it's present at the time of the test.

Didn't Palmeiro get nailed with deca? I don't remember.


He tested positive for Winstrol.
   10. AndrewJ Posted: May 25, 2008 at 07:30 PM (#2794074)
Pass.

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