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Saturday, March 25, 2017

Sources: Rougned Odor expected to sign multi-year extension with Rangers

Two MLB sources said the Rangers were growing increasingly optimistic they would complete a contract extension for Odor before the end of spring training. The expected six-year deal in the $50-52 million range may only be lacking formalities. It comes on the heels of a much smaller deal for Chirinos, who signed a one-year extension with a club option earlier in the week.

Rangers general manager Jon Daniels, citing his long-held policy of not commenting on contract negotiations, declined to comment. Daniels has maintained the Rangers are in contact with the agents for a number of their players on conversations about the future.
Per MLB Network’s Jon Heyman, the six-year extension for Odor would total $49.5 million with an option for a seventh year.

RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: March 25, 2017 at 12:09 PM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. BDC Posted: March 25, 2017 at 12:45 PM (#5423534)
Odor reminds me of Juan Samuel in quite a few ways, though I have to remember that at Odor's age, Samuel had played only 18 big-league games – and that Samuel never hit 33 home runs in his life, let alone Jose Bautista.

And at that, Samuel amassed 13 bWAR from ages 23-28. He was basically a good regular till age 26 and a good role player till age 36. If Odor can average 3 WAR a season for the next five years, the Rangers basically don't have to worry about second base, and I don't care what they pay him; it's not my money. Well, some of it is, of course. OK, too much coffee, I will hang up and listen.
   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: March 25, 2017 at 02:10 PM (#5423562)
Well, I guess he can afford his own legal defense now.
   3. PreservedFish Posted: March 25, 2017 at 02:22 PM (#5423565)
Well, here's a similarity with Samuel. What position does he fit at? I've always loved Odor as a prospect and I love his swing, so I'm not concerned about the bad K/BB yet, not at his age. Initially the bad defensive numbers didn't bother me, but last I saw him, he was looking pretty dumpy. If he gains weight I don't know how long he is for 2B. And if he gets bumped off of 2B, where next?
   4. 6 - 4 - 3 Posted: March 25, 2017 at 02:37 PM (#5423569)
Not a fan of this extension. There is a decent chance that we've seen the best season that we're ever going to see from Odor.
   5. BDC Posted: March 25, 2017 at 02:46 PM (#5423572)
Initially the bad defensive numbers didn't bother me, but last I saw him, he was looking pretty dumpy

Odor can look pretty spectacular on some plays and pretty flatfooted on others. He isn't the kind of guy who looks solid out there but just can't get to many baseballs (Michael Young, Derek Jeter.; Odor reminds me more of Alfonso Soriano or Hank Blalock, in that sometimes he can amaze you and other times seems overmatched. Maybe they figure they can work with him.
   6. PreservedFish Posted: March 25, 2017 at 02:49 PM (#5423575)
By "dumpy" I meant podgy, squat, pear-shaped.
   7. BDC Posted: March 25, 2017 at 02:58 PM (#5423576)
When he first came up Odor looked almost skinny and a bit topheavy, but success may be getting to his rear end. We will have to see what shape he shows up in and if he spends too much of his new contract at Whataburger.
   8. Misirlou doesn't live in the restaurant Posted: March 25, 2017 at 03:32 PM (#5423580)
Some years ago, I recall a sportswriter writing something to the effect "How can he ever hope to be a great player with a name like Boof Bonser?" And he was only half joking.

I feel the same way about Odor.
   9. Walt Davis Posted: March 25, 2017 at 05:58 PM (#5423645)
But Rougned Odor is an awesome name.

Anyway, harking back to an earlier thread ... not sure I ever posted a follow-up. For players his age, Odor's power is among the best of the expansion era. But for players his age, his combo of power and lousy walk rate is pretty much unprecedented. The only guy who comes close is Francoeur -- not a promising comp but not only did Francoeur have less power over these ages but his ISO was moving in the wrong direction while Odor's has been going up. Anyway, a comp set of one isn't big enough to say anything with obviously.

Soriano is the closest modern comp but he didn't setting into a starting role until much older, also Odor won't be adding Soriano's steals.

We'll have to see the final numbers/structure but this deal sounds a bit rich and/or a bit early. I think a somewhat improved walk rate is probably on the way as pitchers try to avoid his power but I'd like to see evidence of that first. If he keeps flailing, it will probably go the direction of declining power which would be a disaster.
   10. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: March 25, 2017 at 08:20 PM (#5423688)
If he gains weight I don't know how long he is for 2B. And if he gets bumped off of 2B, where next?


Various FG people have been advancing the idea that defense at 2B has become less important in the era of the shift. I have two feelings about this:

(A) I think this has pretty clearly happened. Danny Murphy & Neil Walker, in particular, are strong benefactors of this change.

(B) I am not 100% convinced that shifting is anything other than a net-neutral thing, and I'm not sure it's actually the future of the game. There may again come a time when you have to field as well as Biggio to be a bat-first 2B.
   11. weiss-man Posted: March 25, 2017 at 08:59 PM (#5423701)
It's not just the shift, it's the Utley rule. Less physical contact at 2b allows the better hitters to play there and stay in the lineup.
   12. Los Angeles El Hombre of Anaheim Posted: March 26, 2017 at 12:36 AM (#5423756)
Well, I guess he can afford his own legal defense now.
This comment deserves its own GoFundMe account.
   13. ReggieThomasLives Posted: March 26, 2017 at 11:55 AM (#5423789)
The problem is that Rougned Odor is too common a name. If Rougned Odor becomes a big star, we'll have to ask, Which Rougned Odor?

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