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Monday, December 05, 2011

Spinner: Nickelback Trade Insults Via Twitter With Atlanta Braves’ Peter Moylan

Nickelback? Foo Fighters?.....You’d think Moylan would be touting the Mangel Wankers or something, but nooooo.

Embattled rock band Nickelback have found themselves in the middle of another sports controversy—a Twitter fight with Peter Moylan, a relief pitcher for the Atlanta Braves baseball team.

Moylan threw the first high heater after attending the Foo Fighters’ Dec. 2 show at AAMI Park in Melbourne, Australia, tweeting how much more he liked Dave Grohl’s band than Chad Kroeger’s.

“Note to @nickelback please attend a @foofighters concert. That’s how’s it should be done chad,” he wrote.

Nickelback, who’ve been drinking their fair share of haterade lately on account of their unpopular football half-time shows, were quick to respond with kind words for the Foos and a baseball-savvy burn for Moylan.

“@PeterMoylan Foos are killer for sure. We’re doing just fine too thanks. ? for you Pete, is watching Kimbrel better from the bench or on TV?” the band tweeted.

Repoz Posted: December 05, 2011 at 10:32 PM | 88 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Greg K Posted: December 05, 2011 at 10:52 PM (#4007520)
Nickelback are still a relevant band world wide and the Tragically Hip toil in obscurity?

The world outside Canada is a strange place.
   2. thetailor Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:06 PM (#4007546)
Hahah got to give it to them though, that was pretty funny.
   3. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:07 PM (#4007550)
Nickelback may still be relevant to those who arrange for halftime acts at football games, but I'd wager that's about it.
   4. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:11 PM (#4007557)
"The jerk store called, and they're running out of Nickelback!"
   5. zonk Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:20 PM (#4007576)
Nickelback are still a relevant band world wide and the Tragically Hip toil in obscurity?

The world outside Canada is a strange place.


Hopefully, this turns into another High Fidelity-esque hipster music sneerfest (no, seriously!) -- I discovered both Joel Plaskett and Surfer Blood thanks to the last one, and my music library is grateful for that, hungering for more.
   6. Greg K Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:27 PM (#4007582)
I discovered both Joel Plaskett and Surfer Blood thanks to the last one, and my music library is grateful for that, hungering for more.

Sweet Enola Gay was that me?

Joel Plaskett is my favourite musician, and my favourite topic to post about is my own interests so the odds are good. I'll just assume it was so I can sleep happy tonight knowing I did old Joel a "solid". I'm saving my big favour to him (financing a theatre production of "Ashtray Rock") for when I win the lottery.

What of his are you listening to, if I may ask.
   7. AJMcCringleberry Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:30 PM (#4007584)
Another reason to hate Nickelback, they are making me side with a ####### Brave.
   8. Poster Nutbag Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:30 PM (#4007585)
Nickelback are still a relevant band world wide and the Tragically Hip toil in obscurity?


Agreed. Not the Canada part, but the Tragically Hip part. Gordie plain ####### rules.

Hopefully, this turns into another High Fidelity-esque hipster music sneerfest (no, seriously!)


"You just #### on everyone who knows less than you."
"No".
"Which is everyone"
"Yes"

....that scene ALWAYS reminds me of this site!
   9. PreservedFish Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:32 PM (#4007588)
my favourite topic to post about is my own interests


Hey, me too!
   10. zonk Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:35 PM (#4007597)
Sweet Enola Gay was that me?

Joel Plaskett is my favourite musician, and I my favourite topic to post about is my own interests so the odds are good. I'll just assume it was I can sleep happy tonight knowing I did old Joel a "solid". I'm saving my big favour to him (financing a theatre production of "Ashtray Rock") for when I win the lottery.

What of his are you listening to, if I may ask.


I think it might have been -- I am currently wearing the tracks (or I guess, the 1's and 0's) out on Ashtray Rock... Fashionable People is one of those songs that I'm kicking myself for missing when it was released -- a truly great single, but I'm liking the whole album.
   11. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:46 PM (#4007613)
Hipster music sneerfest?

I am living in hell because the Cyclic Amp CD-R I've burned here at work off a blog link won't play anywhere else (only the second time that's ever happened to me, I'm pretty sure), & I want to listen to it at home. I've got the original EPs on vinyl, but god only knows where I've stashed them. And of course I can't find my dub of the cassette of pre-vinyl stuff that a friend sent me back in, probably, the late '80s (& that I in turn haven't been able to find in years).

Great Liverpool postpunk; sort of a more rocking mid-'80s Swans, in some ways, &/or maybe a slightly less dirge-inclined Head of David, & of course precisely what I want to listen to. Of course, in the process of poking around & finding the aforementioned blog I learned that that late-'80s tape didn't include several tracks off the band's debut cassette album, which doesn't seem to be available anywhere. *siiiiiiiiiiigh*

Anyway, this entire set of affairs (exacerbated by the fact that I have the missing dub's track listing sitting on my coffee table at home, which I guess means the tape case is out there flying blind, as it) is made even more aggravating by the fact that I'm otherwise in one of my stupid recurrent I-don't-want-to-listen-to-anyfuckingthing moods & have been since probably at least late summer. Dammit!
   12. McCoy Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:48 PM (#4007615)
I don't know if I'll get flamed for this but about a month or so back I was in a bar and I liked the music that was playing. I asked the bartender what it was and she said it was off of the Foster the People station on Pandora. I've been listening to it ever since and I'm liking FtP and the "similar" other bands that are played as well.
   13. PreservedFish Posted: December 05, 2011 at 11:57 PM (#4007624)
Can we talk about Pandora? Did Pandora become stupid at some point?

I remember a few years ago Pandora was an great way to learn about new music, because it would actually play stuff that the computer had determined was similar. Now, it seems like the playlist is fudged to only include famous songs. If you put on the The Police station, it does not play bands that sounds similar to The Police - it plays Sting, Duran Duran, and 80s one-hit wonders. The Police had that reggae influence. So it might play a Bob Marley song or two.
   14. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:10 AM (#4007634)
WTF is Pandora? From what you just said, I probably won't care about the answer, anyway.
   15. Brian C Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:16 AM (#4007639)
I've only heard a few songs by Foster the People - the ones that are singles, I guess, to the extent that such a thing as "singles" exist anymore - and they all have the same quality: listenable at first, but gets old real fast.
   16. billyshears Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:24 AM (#4007648)
Hopefully, this turns into another High Fidelity-esque hipster music sneerfest (no, seriously!) -- I discovered both Joel Plaskett and Surfer Blood thanks to the last one, and my music library is grateful for that, hungering for more.


I was kind of hoping for this too. I'll be the ####### who starts:

Really like The Last Royals and Wolf Gang - unfortunately, last I checked all that was available from either of them on itunes were EPs.

Thought The Naked and Famous were pretty cool. I think I probably could have gotten into M83, but the new album seemed like a lot of work, so I gave up.

I tried listening to Girls. Wasn't a fan (of the band).

I gave Real Estate a very abbreviated shot, but like Girls, they seemed a bit low-fi for my taste.
   17. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:25 AM (#4007649)
We had Pandora playing a station for The Dear Hunter last night, after playing a couple songs by them in the first 6-7 it suddenly went about 25 songs before finally returning to one by the damn band we created the station for. I agree about it fudging the list in favor in popular songs, it really showed in that station. To tie it in with #15 ####### Pumped Up Kicks came on which, besides the fact that the song is lame and impossible to escape even if your radio listening is limited to ones that are turned on in stores or coming out of other cars when stopped at intersections, is not at all related to what we were listening to anyway.

I've had some pretty good luck listening to stations lately for Pendulum, Chemical Brothers, and The Glitch Mob. It probably is slanted towards more popular stuff but the overall music quality has been good and relates to the original group.
   18. esseff Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:29 AM (#4007656)
they all have the same quality: listenable at first, but gets old real fast.


Pumped Up Kicks seemed interesting when I'd hear it on TV shows, etc. on the fringes of my consciousness. But less so after I made a point of "listening" to it.
   19. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:56 AM (#4007686)
I remember a few years ago Pandora was an great way to learn about new music, because it would actually play stuff that the computer had determined was similar. Now, it seems like the playlist is fudged to only include famous songs. If you put on the The Police station, it does not play bands that sounds similar to The Police - it plays Sting, Duran Duran, and 80s one-hit wonders. The Police had that reggae influence. So it might play a Bob Marley song or two.

I don't listen to Pandora very often, but I usually find at least one band I've never heard of before. Then again, the bands I start stations off with aren't "mainstream" in the first place...
   20. The Long Arm of Rudy Law Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:02 AM (#4007692)
I listen to an Albert King station on Pandora, so I'm not surprised when I don't hear new bands.
   21. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:17 AM (#4007698)
Well as long as we're somewhat on the topic of Canadian bands, I would like to suggest the Arkells, Born Ruffians, Tokyo Police Club and The Sheepdogs as quality Canadian alternatives to the black hole of embarrassment that is Nickelback.

Plaskett's cool too.
   22. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:24 AM (#4007703)
WTF is Pandora? From what you just said, I probably won't care about the answer, anyway.

Internet radio. You pick a band you like, and it supposedly tries to play music that is similar. You can thumb-up or thumb-down the songs as they start playing, which gives Pandora more information about what you want to hear.

It's nifty, but as you can see from the other posts, its ability to play what you really want is highly variable.
   23. Randy Jones Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:43 AM (#4007711)
Pandora uses the Music Genome Project to create the stations. You pick a song or artist, it plays that and then a string of similar music based on the MGP.
   24. McCoy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:52 AM (#4007716)
I've only heard a few songs by Foster the People - the ones that are singles, I guess, to the extent that such a thing as "singles" exist anymore - and they all have the same quality: listenable at first, but gets old real fast.

I very rarely "listen" to music. I use it mostly as background when I'm traveling.

Pumped Up Kicks seemed interesting when I'd hear it on TV shows, etc. on the fringes of my consciousness. But less so after I made a point of "listening" to it.


Now that I finally got a TV I've discovered to my annoyance that a lot my musical tastes right now are being used in commercials and shows. It bugs me that I've apparently aged into TV's targeted demographic.
   25. Phil Coorey is a T-Shirt Salesman Posted: December 06, 2011 at 02:07 AM (#4007722)
Moylan is an Aussie, Nickleback suck and an indie rock thread on the way - count me in.
   26. Willie Mayspedes Posted: December 06, 2011 at 02:11 AM (#4007723)
Want a good Pandora station? Try Motorhead.
   27. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 02:20 AM (#4007731)
Internet radio. You pick a band you like, and it supposedly tries to play music that is similar. You can thumb-up or thumb-down the songs as they start playing, which gives Pandora more information about what you want to hear.

I haven't used Pandora in a while, but from what I remember, you could select more than one band for a station. I entered 5 or 6 hip hop groups I liked and it did a great job of identifying new artists/songs I'd like. It would even pick up non-hip hop songs that had guest collaborations by rappers I liked.
   28. Der-K thinks the Essex Green were a good band. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 02:22 AM (#4007734)
24 - I like it - it means they're getting paid.
   29. dirk Posted: December 06, 2011 at 02:24 AM (#4007738)
this is one of those times when i feel like worlds are colliding. joel plaskett coming up in a primer thread? awesome. i saw him on my birthday a few months ago in halifax after years of wanting to. fantastic b-day gift.
   30. PreservedFish Posted: December 06, 2011 at 02:26 AM (#4007739)
You pick a song or artist, it plays that and then a string of similar music based on the MGP.


No way on earth that they do not fudge the results for popularity. At least for some of the stations.
   31. Lassus Posted: December 06, 2011 at 03:39 AM (#4007762)
I gave Real Estate a very abbreviated shot, but like Girls, they seemed a bit low-fi for my taste.

I can't get over waiting for a very, very high voice that never arrives.


Nickelback kind of sucks, but Moylan seems a bigger jerk so in this case I'll side with the former.
   32. zonk Posted: December 06, 2011 at 03:52 AM (#4007765)
Well as long as we're somewhat on the topic of Canadian bands, I would like to suggest the Arkells, Born Ruffians, Tokyo Police Club and The Sheepdogs as quality Canadian alternatives to the black hole of embarrassment that is Nickelback.

Plaskett's cool too.


On the list now to check out - I've developed a taste of late for the Vancouver sound (New Pornographers, et al). In fact, I'd say even the US band I have on heavy rotation is close, at least geographically (The Hold Steady is a Minnesota band, no?)
   33. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:10 AM (#4007773)
Now that I finally got a TV I've discovered to my annoyance that a lot my musical tastes right now are being used in commercials and shows. It bugs me that I've apparently aged into TV's targeted demographic.

I wouldn't read too much into it. There are a lot of (ex) hipsters/cool kids who are now working in producing and marketing and advertising, and a lot of them are young enough to not be too far removed from what's good in music right now.
   34. McCoy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:11 AM (#4007774)
I entered 5 or 6 hip hop groups I liked and it did a great job of identifying new artists/songs I'd like. It would even pick up non-hip hop songs that had guest collaborations by rappers I liked.

When I first did Pandora I entered a bunch of songs and musicians I liked and after a while ended up junking that station since it was basically playing everything in the playlist.
   35. The District Attorney Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:16 AM (#4007777)
Nickelback may still be relevant to those who arrange for halftime acts at football games, but I'd wager that's about it.
They missed having the #1 album in the nation last week by a margin of 419 sales. They sold 227,000 albums. So, yeah. They suck, obviously, but they're extremely "relevant."

I haven't used Pandora in a while, but from what I remember, you could select more than one band for a station.
Yup, I suspect the more the better.
   36. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:29 AM (#4007787)
On the list now to check out - I've developed a taste of late for the Vancouver sound (New Pornographers, et al). In fact, I'd say even the US band I have on heavy rotation is close, at least geographically (The Hold Steady is a Minnesota band, no?)

The Hold Steady are technically a Brooklyn band with members from Minnesota and several songs about the Twin Cities. I'm a big fan of theirs, too. Though Minnesota isn't all that close to Vancouver.

Arkells, Born Ruffians, and Tokyo Police club are all from southern Ontario (Hamilton/Toronto area). The Sheepdogs are from Saskatoon though they probably have more publicity in the US since the Rolling Stone cover.
   37. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:34 AM (#4007792)
Favorite Canadian bands:
Wolf Parade
Women
Broken Social Scene (though their last album was kinda lame)
The Constantines
Destroyer
Sloan
Noah23
Sunset Rubdown
The Unicorns

Women are excellent. Unfortunately they've broken up, but I did get to see them live a few times before they split.
   38. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:46 AM (#4007798)
Sloan, like the Hip, are a band with an extensive body of work that is tragically under-appreciated outside of Canada.

And Deeper than Beauty is the most played on my iTunes. Surprising even to me, but great tune.
   39. zonk Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:52 AM (#4007804)
The Hold Steady are technically a Brooklyn band with members from Minnesota and several songs about the Twin Cities. I'm a big fan of theirs, too. Though Minnesota isn't all that close to Vancouver.

Arkells, Born Ruffians, and Tokyo Police club are all from southern Ontario (Hamilton/Toronto area). The Sheepdogs are from Saskatoon though they probably have more publicity in the US since the Rolling Stone cover.


Definite thumbs up to Born Ruffians and I think Arkells sounds like it's going to grow on me.

I say 'Vancouver sound' mainly because I immediately loved the New Pornographers the first time I heard them -- and actually wandered into AC Newman without even realizing he was part of the supergroup. Got introduced to Said the Whale about the same time...

For some reason, it reminds me a bit of the 80s 'paisley rock/pop' (The Three O'Clock, Rain Parade) that I really like/d.
   40. Commissioner Bud Black Beltre Hillman Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:55 AM (#4007806)
Hipster music huh? Absolutely loving tUnE-YarDs, but the new album is a bit too commercial.
   41. zonk Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:05 AM (#4007809)
Favorite Canadian bands:
Wolf Parade
Women
Broken Social Scene (though their last album was kinda lame)
The Constantines
Destroyer
Sloan
Noah23
Sunset Rubdown
The Unicorns


The Constantines and Sloan are keepers -- I've got a few Unicorns tracks (I love Sea Ghost)... I feel like I should enjoy Destroyer, but I sort of feel the same way about them I do about Arcade Fire, good stuff but just not my cup of tea.
   42. Shredder Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:05 AM (#4007810)
If you're going to include Wolf Parade and Sunset Rubdown, you may as well throw in Handsome Furs as well. I actually prefer Dan Boeckner's stuff to Spencer Krug's, and Handsome Furs put on a great live show (it helps that Alexei Perry is sexy as hell). Also, probably toward the top of my list would be Besnard Lakes (Jace Lasek actually produced the last Sunset Rubdown album).

I mentioned this in the music thread on the lounge forum, but this was a really excellent year for women in indie/rock music. I just finished putting together my year end list, and the top three albums are all from female artists/girl groups/female fronted bands, as well as seven of my top eight, and eleven of my top twenty. Pretty good year overall, actually. Not including festival shows, I'll hit the 50 concert mark for 2011 on Wednesday night when the War on Drugs play Lincoln Hall.
I feel like I should enjoy Destroyer, but I sort of feel the same way about them I do about Arcade Fire, good stuff but just not my cup of tea.
Bejar is kind of all over the board. Kaputt sounds nothing like the last album, which doesn't sound much like the album before, etc. If you like New Pornographers, then the Destroyer album you'll probably like the best is Streethawk. His stuff is consistently my favorite NP stuff, but he doesn't write pop songs like that for Destroyer.
   43. Enrico Pallazzo Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:06 AM (#4007811)
Definite thumbs up to Born Ruffians and I think Arkells sounds like it's going to grow on me.

A definite difference between the first and second Arkells records. I like them both, but the first is grittier and heavier and the second more pop and radio-oriented. I've seen them live 3 times and the mix of styles makes for a great show. Really fun band.
   44. zonk Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:17 AM (#4007815)
A definite difference between the first and second Arkells records. I like them both, but the first is grittier and heavier and the second more pop and radio-oriented. I've seen them live 3 times and the mix of styles makes for a great show. Really fun band.


I like bands that evolve a bit -- Cheap Trick's first two albums are far any away my favorites, but I don't at all it against them that moved into more 'Oh, Candy' than say, 'He's a Whore'. Ditto Liz Phair. I mean, I'm not saying her radio-ready stuff compares to Exile - but nothing wrong with good pop music.
   45. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:28 AM (#4007820)
If you're going to include Wolf Parade and Sunset Rubdown, you may as well throw in Handsome Furs as well. I actually prefer Dan Boeckner's stuff to Spencer Krug's, and Handsome Furs put on a great live show (it helps that Alexei Perry is sexy as hell). Also, probably toward the top of my list would be Besnard Lakes (Jace Lasek actually produced the last Sunset Rubdown album).


I like Handsome Furs well enough, Sound Kapital is one of my favorites of this year. But I'm definitely Team Spencer. I like Krug's Wolf Parade songs better than Boeckner's. And like Krug's non-Wolf Parade stuff better as well (this includes Sunset Rubdown, Swan Lake, Moonface).
   46. Lassus Posted: December 06, 2011 at 06:03 AM (#4007842)
I don't think the Constantines' songs are as good as Wolf Parade's. I always WANTED to like the former, but it seemed like a lot more conscious effort than the latter.
   47. SteveM. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:10 AM (#4007862)
I am going to give a plug to Corb Lund as my favorite Canadian artist. Between him and Kathleen Edwards, its almost enought for me to stop blaming Canada for Shania Twain.
   48. Greg K Posted: December 06, 2011 at 09:44 AM (#4007883)
this is one of those times when i feel like worlds are colliding. joel plaskett coming up in a primer thread? awesome. i saw him on my birthday a few months ago in halifax after years of wanting to. fantastic b-day gift.

I'm biased of course, but a live Joel Plaskett show is one of the greatest things imaginable. Though I think it might be true. Some of my other favourite bands (the Weakerthans for instance) I find just meh live. My favourite live shows are either at Hugh's Room in Toronto a few years ago when he and Peter Elkas had run over a prairie dog earlier in the tour and so they re-wrote the lyrics to "Work Out Fine" from its perspective as it contemplated crossing the highway. Or a show in Dublin last year with an audience of ten people (8 of them Canadian), where I got to meet him when he was done.

Sloan is another great, great band (Halifax apparently is the place to be). I was never sure how big they were outside of Canada, but it's not surprising to hear they didn't make it big. The good ones never do. For me, The Super Friendz (and off-shoot The Flashing Lights) round out the trio of excellent Halifax bands (along with Plaskett/Thrush Hermit). The all employ humour and wordplay, without losing any of their earnestness. And more importantly are united by their unrelenting politeness, which I find important in a rock band.

Other Canadian bands I enjoy (non-Halifax category
The Inbreds (drum and bass duo!)
The Tea Party
Hayden telling the delightful "Woody" story...then singing the song! EDIT: Ah crap it's not the Woody story, it's Starbucks! Oh well
Sarah Harmer
The Headstones
The Weakerthans another song about a cat
Followed by the cat explaining why it ran off Vritute the Cat Explains Her Departure

EDIT: Kathleen Edwards! How could I have forgotten.
Also, perfect timing for a Lassus appearence. Just the other day I was wondering you'd heard that pair of Weakerthans songs as I recall you have an affinity for furry things.
   49. Flynn Posted: December 06, 2011 at 11:54 AM (#4007889)
I'm with Nickelback. They suck, but that was a good comeback. I can't stand the Foo Fighters as well - here's another song where Dave Grohl yells! Get behind the drum kit, dude.

Karkwa and Malajube are my favorite Canadian bands en francais. What's people's opinions on listening to music in other languages (that you can't understand, or not very well)? I couldn't care less, personally, since I can barely understand what most singers are saying most of the time anyway.

Edit: Also, no mentions of F*cked Up among excellent Canadian bands? Queen of Hearts is an awesome song, though the video features the worst British accent of all time.
   50. Greg K Posted: December 06, 2011 at 12:32 PM (#4007892)
Karkwa and Malajube are my favorite Canadian bands en francais. What's people's opinions on listening to music in other languages (that you can't understand, or not very well)? I couldn't care less, personally, since I can barely understand what most singers are saying most of the time anyway.

I don't listen to a lot of foreign language music, but Gling-Gló by Björk Guðmundsdóttir & tríó Guðmundar Ingólfssonar is one of all time favourite albums. I'm not a huge fan of Bjork's English solo stuff, though I don't mind her, and I'm certainly no fan of jazz. But somehow they fit together perfectly on that album.



Bella Simamaer

One of the songs on that album is titled "Tondeleyo" which I always heard as Don DeLillo.
   51. Greg K Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:13 PM (#4007903)
I hate to over-Bjork things, but if this video doesn't make you love her than you have no soul.
   52. Jim Wisinski Posted: December 06, 2011 at 01:34 PM (#4007910)
I hate to over-Bjork things, but if this video doesn't make you love her than you have no soul.


That's fantastic.

What's people's opinions on listening to music in other languages (that you can't understand, or not very well)?


Pretty much all the European metal bands I listen to sing in English so the only stuff I really hear in a foreign language is Japanese, which I enjoy the sound of. I also enjoy the language spoken so that's probably part of it.
   53. Shredder Posted: December 06, 2011 at 04:29 PM (#4008024)
What's people's opinions on listening to music in other languages (that you can't understand, or not very well)? I couldn't care less, personally, since I can barely understand what most singers are saying most of the time anyway.
Super Furry Animals did a pretty good album entirely in Welsh, and Gruff Rhys' first solo album was all in Welsh. I guess I like them, but admittedly I don't listen to them as much as the rest of the stuff he/they have put out, though Calimero is one of SFA's best live songs. Not sure how much of that is related to the language. Stereolab's catalog is peppered with French language songs, and many of them are pretty good. I can't think of a lot of other bands I listen do that do stuff in foreign languages though.
   54. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 05:23 PM (#4008087)
Internet radio. You pick a band you like, and it supposedly tries to play music that is similar. You can thumb-up or thumb-down the songs as they start playing, which gives Pandora more information about what you want to hear.


Thanks. One of these days I'll find the adapter for the remaining speaker for my computer at home (the cord broke on the other one after being knocked off my desk by a cat, & it's way too thin to patch together). How the cats managed to make it go away, I have no idea, but damn if they didn't.
   55. Brian C Posted: December 06, 2011 at 06:25 PM (#4008169)
Pretty good year overall, actually. Not including festival shows, I'll hit the 50 concert mark for 2011 on Wednesday night when the War on Drugs play Lincoln Hall.

Just curious, how do you feel about Lincoln Hall as a venue? I don't go to a lot of concerts, but I dropped by there to see British Sea Power earlier this year. I liked the place quite a bit although it being so new it doesn't have the run-down ambiance (which I mean in a good way) of a lot of Chicago venues. I get the feeling that it's viewed somewhat skeptically by a lot of folks but in all honesty I don't really have a clue.
   56. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 06:39 PM (#4008189)
   57. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 06:43 PM (#4008197)
Anthology by Thrice.
   58. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 06:44 PM (#4008201)
Black Night by The Dodos.
   59. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 06:46 PM (#4008206)
Ebb and Flow by Larry & His Flask.
   60. bunyon Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:06 PM (#4008244)
I'm as unhip as a man could be and, yet, I love the Tragically Hip and, so, many Americans think I'm quite knowledgeable about fringe music. Really pisses me off. I want to yell, "You should love this, you imbecile!" and "It's really not fringe at all."

I mean, if I love something it is absolutely not fringe.


Speaking of fringe, does anyone know if the Canadian comic group Gordon's Big Bald Head is still active? I saw them in Edmonton...sheesh, nearly 15 years ago...and they were awesome. Yet, I've never heard of them again. Which is sad. Off to google them.
   61. cardsfanboy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:10 PM (#4008255)
Want a good Pandora station? Try Motorhead.


At least one person on this thread likes good music. I was afraid it was going to be posts after posts of people talking about music that no one has ever heard of before(I have heard of the Police, so there was that mention up thread)

I'm with Nickelback. They suck, but that was a good comeback. I can't stand the Foo Fighters as well - here's another song where Dave Grohl yells! Get behind the drum kit, dude.


I despise Nirvana, absolutely love Foo Fighters, this is Nirvana done without that self indulgent crap, and a lyricist who can actually hammer out a tune. (or actually enunciate words)
   62. Ryan Lind Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:12 PM (#4008257)

Can we talk about Pandora? Did Pandora become stupid at some point?


Yes, it stopped working outside the US 5 years ago or so.
   63. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:13 PM (#4008261)
At least one person on this thread likes good music. I was afraid it was going to be posts after posts of people talking about music that no one has ever heard of


If on-base percentage is so important, why don't they put it on the scoreboard?
   64. bunyon Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:13 PM (#4008262)
http://www.edmontonsun.com/2011/08/16/fringe-review-gordons-big-bald-head-45

Hot damn, they live!

I feel better about that.
   65. formerly dp Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:17 PM (#4008267)
No way on earth that they do not fudge the results for popularity. At least for some of the stations.

I don't know if it's that, or it's just that they don't have deeper-catalog stuff licensed.

BTW, great interview with Pandora's founder, Tim Westergen, from NPR this past weekend.

Gef, as a longtime Swans fan, I will try to track down some Cyclic Amp stuff-- had the chance to see Gira on the latest reunion/give us money tour. He was amazing, and as combative as ever. Setlist was more the dirge route than the Love of Life/Burning World/White Light, which I think alienated a lot of the crowd.

Any Modelselektor fans here? Or too electronic for this crowd?

Not the same software as Pandora, but I have been enjoying Spotify since it came to the US.
   66. Poulanc Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:27 PM (#4008282)
   67. Shredder Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:33 PM (#4008295)
Just curious, how do you feel about Lincoln Hall as a venue?
I think it's terrific. I mean, don't get me wrong, I like the divey aspects of the Empty Bottle, Double Door, and Beat Kitchen, but I think LH is a great mix of being a really good place to see and hear a show, while not going overboard on being too professional, like the Metro or the Vic. Shows at those places feel more like a production, as opposed to just being a concert. It's still a place where the bands do most of their own pre-show prep, which I think gives it a more intimate feel. It still sounds good even when if you're standing over on the ramp (which can actually be a pretty good place to watch the show). It's acoustics are so good that it almost gets too quiet between songs, which can be a bit eerie, but I much prefer that to places where the chatter is overwhelming, like at Subterranean. I realize concerts aren't movies, but at some places, people can really be inconsiderate. At LH, it gets so quiet that it keeps people from doing that. My sense is that the bands really enjoy playing there as well. LH also tends to get a pretty concert savvy crowd. Much moreso than the Metro and venues larger than that.

On the non-music side of the equation, they have a pretty good selection of tap beers, and they have roaming servers, which is a real plus when you go to shows alone and don't want to walk out to get a beer and wade back through the crowd. And they consistently get the most acts that line up with my taste in music. I still prefer Schuba's because it's literally about 500 feet from my front door, but I see more shows at LH than anywhere else. Since it opened in October of 2009, I think I count about 40+ shows I've been to there, compared with about half that for Schuba's.
   68. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:39 PM (#4008310)
Not the same software as Pandora, but I have been enjoying Spotify since it came to the US.

How does it compare? I've seen it mentioned but not sure how it differs from Pandora.
   69. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:48 PM (#4008320)
RAA is really good. I liked this release better than the debut.
   70. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:49 PM (#4008326)
Gef, as a longtime Swans fan, I will try to track down some Cyclic Amp stuff-- had the chance to see Gira on the latest reunion/give us money tour. He was amazing, and as combative as ever. Setlist was more the dirge route than the Love of Life/Burning World/White Light, which I think alienated a lot of the crowd.


The vinyl tracks can all be downloaded here --

http://thepostpunk80sunderground.blogspot.com/2011/10/cyclic-amp-people-of-book-ugly-as-power.html
http://thepostpunk80sunderground.blogspot.com/2010/07/cyclic-amp-12-ep-1989.html

(That apparently utterly unavailable debut cassette, Deviations of the Impluse, is probably sitting under Repoz's couch clogging up with dust even as I type.)

I'd be interested in hearing what you think, if you give them a try.

Only time I ever saw Swans was when they played Tipitina's in, I believe, the fall of '89. Luckily, a friend (same one who intro'd me to Cyclic Amp, as it happens) had taped much if not all of Burning World for me, so I knew not to expect a wall-to-wall "Raping a Slave" vibe.
   71. Fred Lynn Nolan Ryan Sweeney Agonistes Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:54 PM (#4008334)
What's people's opinions on listening to music in other languages (that you can't understand, or not very well)? I couldn't care less, personally, since I can barely understand what most singers are saying most of the time anyway.

I like a lot of African R&B that isn't in English - the Ethiopiques series of CDs, for example.
Like you, I tend not to pay much attention to lyrics even when a song is in English.
   72. A big pile of nonsense (gef the talking mongoose) Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:56 PM (#4008339)
Oh, geez. I really like "Pumped Up Kicks." I'll surrender my indie-cred card upon demand.

(The fact that I only listen to music on the radio a few minutes a day, if that, probably helps.)
   73. Ryan Lind Posted: December 06, 2011 at 07:58 PM (#4008346)
I dont know about aall this crap, but he's right about the Foos
   74. SoSH U at work Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:05 PM (#4008360)
Rural Alberta Advantage anyone?


I'm listening to it right now. One of my favorites of the year (and I liked the debut as well).
   75. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:10 PM (#4008368)
Actor-Castor by Generationals
England Keep My Bones by Frank Turner
Um, Uh Oh by Say Hi
Simple Math by Manchester Orchestra
Pint of Blood by Jolie Holland
Destroyer by Bird of Youth
   76. Shredder Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:26 PM (#4008386)
Actor-Castor by Generationals
Really underrated, especially with the return of '60s style retro-pop. I didn't like Actor-Caster as much as Con Law, but it was still pretty solid, and their show last January at Schuba's was really good. They recruited some people from local "marching band" Mucca Pazza to play horns, and they sounded great. It was my 13th favorite album of the year.
   77. The Kentucky Gentleman, Mark Edward Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:30 PM (#4008392)
The best part about Lincoln Hall is the bar attached to the venue. If the opening act is crappy you can duck out & sit at the bar and watch a game or whatever.
   78. Rants Mulliniks Posted: December 06, 2011 at 08:31 PM (#4008395)
Ethiopiques series of CDs


As soon as i got done watching Broken Flowers I got on the net to find out who made that music, and then went on Amazon to buy a Mulatu Astatke CD. His stuff is awesome.
   79. Every Inge Counts Posted: December 06, 2011 at 09:30 PM (#4008464)
AVclub put out its best music of 2011 list today:

AVclub Best of 2011


Spoiler-Wye Oak is number 1.
   80. Rickey! On a blog from 1998. With the candlestick. Posted: December 06, 2011 at 11:34 PM (#4008603)
I don't really get the Wye Oak love. I never could quite grok that release.
   81. Biff, highly-regarded young guy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 11:44 PM (#4008616)
Pretty much all the European metal bands I listen to sing in English

Who do you listen to? Not too many fellow metal fans on this site.

Since Canadian music got brought up, I'll mention that I'm a big fan of a lot of Devin Townsend's work.
   82. McCoy Posted: December 06, 2011 at 11:56 PM (#4008628)
All this talk about Canadian musicians and no one brings Alanis? For shame, people.
   83. cardsfanboy Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:09 AM (#4008641)
All this talk about Canadian musicians and no one brings Alanis? For shame, people.


It's a baseball board, Corey Hart should be mentioned.
   84. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:18 AM (#4008649)
Speaking of Canucks, Dan Mangan's Post-War Blues is my favorite song of the year.
   85. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:27 AM (#4008654)
What's people's opinions on listening to music in other languages (that you can't understand, or not very well)? I couldn't care less, personally, since I can barely understand what most singers are saying most of the time anyway.


Much of the music that I listen to nowadays is Japanese, and it doesn't bother me at all that most of it is not sung in English. I admit that I sometimes do Google song lyrics to find English translations, but that's more as a point of interest than absolutely needing to know what the songs are about. But I love a group like nano.RIPE, even if none of their songs are in English. Probably my favorite band of this year, even if the singer's little girl voice takes a while to get used to. My favorite song of theirs, even though there's no official video.

I also really like Siberian band Pelageya, who play Russian folk songs in a rock setting, and have a fantastic female singer.
   86. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:33 AM (#4008660)
For those who have not heard Sloan, but would like a taste, NoiseTrade is offering a 14-song compilation album of their singles for free. Well worth downloading.
   87. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:36 AM (#4008662)
It's a baseball board, Corey Hart should be mentioned.

And Rush, right? And Triumph?

Honestly, I had no idea Alanis was Canadian.
   88. Ryan Lind Posted: December 07, 2011 at 12:39 AM (#4008664)

Since Canadian music got brought up, I'll mention that I'm a big fan of a lot of Devin Townsend's work.


Saw him (with Children of Bodom) at the Commodore Ballroom in August. The guy is pure joy.

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