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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

SSS: For once, Mark Buehrle may be out of his element

And so you negotiate a full or limited no-trade clause, right, but a good point:

When Buehrle moved to Florida, he had to live outside of Miami-Dade County due to its ban on pit bulls. When voters decided to preserve the 13-year-old breed-specific ban, he made his displeasure known:

*snip*

If he thought a 45-minute commute to the ballpark was inconvenient, it’ll be interesting to see how he handles Ontario’s 22-year-old pit bull ban. At that point, his nearest pitbull-friendly option is Buffalo, which is two hours away. At least his backloaded contract would allow him to feed his monster truck with gas that costs $1.20 more per gallon than what he paid in Florida.

That’s ruff. *honk*  If you’re Rick Hahn, do you dangle a Gavin Floyd-ish player in front of AA? 2014 and 2015 are killers on Buehrle’s contract, but the affection is mutual.  Dunno.

I Fought Vance Law and Vance Law Won Posted: November 14, 2012 at 11:09 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. UCCF Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:11 PM (#4302590)
Just wait until someone pees on his rug.
   2. puck Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:40 PM (#4302626)
The ban is province wide?
   3. SoSH U at work Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:45 PM (#4302637)
The ban is province wide?


Sounds like it, though the story has been corrected to a 7-year-old ban.

   4. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: November 14, 2012 at 02:51 PM (#4302650)
Based on my Facebook circle there is no political issue that people feel as strongly about as the idea of dogs being mistreated. I have two "friends" who CONSTANTLY, like more than once a day, post links to pictures of wonderful dogs and homilies about the courage and loyalty of dogs, and a considerable percentage of these links are to things about how people shouldn't be racist against pit bulls and every day this shelter has to put down pit bulls because how afraid people are to adopt them and how actually other breeds are dumb and high-maintenance and unfriendly compared to pit bulls. In other words I think most of these bans will be overturned soon, because there is a vocal minority who care about it more than life itself.
   5. mathesond Posted: November 14, 2012 at 03:21 PM (#4302706)
I was thinking about this, and as a Jays fan, I'd be happy with Buehrle to the Tigers for Dirks + Smyly...which probably means I'm viewing it through blue-tinted glasses
   6. Rickey! Filipino Diving Team Posted: November 14, 2012 at 03:29 PM (#4302720)
Breed specific bans are, in fact, stupid.
   7. Howie Menckel Posted: November 14, 2012 at 03:32 PM (#4302724)

"his nearest pitbull-friendly option is Buffalo, which is two hours away."

I've driven from Buffalo to Toronto and back at least 6 or 8 roundtrips, and never once did it take me two hours.

maybe I confused mph for whatever those Canadians are using these days?

an hour-40, yeah it can take that long. but most of it is an easy ride....
   8. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: November 14, 2012 at 03:54 PM (#4302754)
Easy ride? Not when you've got a pit bull's jaw clamped onto your arm.
   9. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: November 14, 2012 at 04:00 PM (#4302765)
If it was any player other than Mark Buehrle, I think it would be really cool if he retired because of the dog. Of course, it's not my money and I don't care about the Blue Jays.
   10. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: November 14, 2012 at 04:10 PM (#4302780)
I've driven from Buffalo to Toronto and back at least 6 or 8 roundtrips, and never once did it take me two hours.

He has to stop to fill up. Twice.
   11. Shock Posted: November 14, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4302795)
Breed specific bans are, in fact, stupid.


think of it more as a law against breeding your dogs in a specific way.
   12. Shock Posted: November 14, 2012 at 04:19 PM (#4302796)
I predict this thread goes a billion pages.
   13. madvillain Posted: November 14, 2012 at 11:34 PM (#4303102)
As a Sox fan, I think Mark Buehlre is a helluva pitcher that is a joy to watch pitch because he gets the damn ball and throws it, mostly over the plate at 88 to 90 mph, which somehow has gotten him a perfect game, a no hitter, and an outside chance at a HOF career.

As a Sox fan, he's also the guy who followed his boy Ozzie to play for another snake in Loria, rather than stay with the club that made him who he is. Yea yea it's business but the Sox are nothing if not incredibly loyal as an organization. He could have been a Sox for life and reaped the rewards (probably with at least a plaque and maybe a statue, among monetary rewards for life), now he's in the worst division for pitching and can't keep his damn dogs to boot. Life's a ##### sometimes, even for rich folk.
   14. Dr. Vaux Posted: November 15, 2012 at 02:44 AM (#4303163)
If he demanded a trade, it seems like they'd have to trade him. He's too valuable an asset to not get something for if the alternative is that he retires.
   15. Avoid running at all times.-S. Paige Posted: November 15, 2012 at 05:51 AM (#4303184)
Buehrle for Giancarlo Stanton. Because Loria makes Canadian dreams happen.
   16. Greg K Posted: November 15, 2012 at 06:17 AM (#4303187)
In high school I had a couple friends going to McMaster so the run down to Hamilton was made quite often. In retrospect it sort of seems silly...I'm sure there were places in Toronto for a 17 year old to drink with the added benefit of not having to head home at 5 to make it back in time for class. Never underestimate the romantic draw of Hamilton to an impressionable young mind. It's true what they say, Hamilton really is the Paris of the Golden Horseshoe.

Also, my dad's from Fort Erie so I've made the Toronto to (roughly) Buffalo trip about a million times. I guess it does depend who's driving. Google gives an ETA of 1h 56 minutes (2h 19 minutes in current traffic...which is what? 6:15am?)

What's the situation with the Peace Bridge these days? Any delays at all?
   17. I Fought Vance Law and Vance Law Won Posted: November 15, 2012 at 06:55 AM (#4303195)
I have to think the Peace Bridge is a little more of an issue than when we were college age (for me, early 90s, Canisius) owing to the post-9/11 requirement of a passport and Homeland Security looking for unseemlies on the way back and whatnot.
   18. Hack Wilson Posted: November 15, 2012 at 08:44 AM (#4303215)
Apparently no restrictions on "Dogs From Hell" in Chicago, so trade him to the Cubs. Since Buehrle hates the Cubs he should fire his agent for not putting in some sort of no/limited trade provision in his contract(I can't believe he doesn't have something).

Welcome to the North Side Mark!
   19. zack Posted: November 15, 2012 at 08:53 AM (#4303220)
The QEW can be pretty horrible, but Buehrle's commute would be what, 10am and 2am? Probably fine. There's another bridge who's name escapes me at the moment for regular commuters with special approval to speed things up.
   20. bunyon Posted: November 15, 2012 at 08:58 AM (#4303223)
It's my recollection that the Sox declined to make him an offer. Is that true?
   21. I Fought Vance Law and Vance Law Won Posted: November 15, 2012 at 09:31 AM (#4303237)
zack: the Father Baker Bridge?
   22. STIGGLES is more humble than you would understand Posted: November 15, 2012 at 09:49 AM (#4303253)
And so you negotiate a full or limited no-trade clause, right, but a good point:
Apparently no restrictions on "Dogs From Hell" in Chicago, so trade him to the Cubs. Since Buehrle hates the Cubs he should fire his agent for not putting in some sort of no/limited trade provision in his contract(I can't believe he doesn't have something).
id you remember, the reason why the marlins were unable to sign prince fielder and albert pujols was because they weren't willing to even discuss a potential no-trade clause for either of the sluggers.


if you go back to one of the stories about it from last offseason, i can almost guarantee that you'll find someone snarking about loria already planning his next firesale.
   23. Hello Rusty Kuntz, Goodbye Rusty Cars Posted: November 15, 2012 at 09:54 AM (#4303259)
It's my recollection that the Sox declined to make him an offer. Is that true?


I remember it like that too. Or at least it was public knowledge that they couldn't afford a competitive offer.
   24. Textbook Editor Posted: November 15, 2012 at 10:01 AM (#4303264)

Just wait until someone pees on his rug.


That rug really tied the room together.
   25. Non-Youkilidian Geometry Posted: November 15, 2012 at 10:09 AM (#4303269)
What's the situation with the Peace Bridge these days? Any delays at all?

My wife's mom lives in upstate NY so we go down pretty regularly. At least at the times we travel the Peace Bridge hasn't been too bad for the past while -- the longest wait has been about a half hour, and it is much more often only about 5 minutes. The lineups at the Lewiston-Queenston bridge have generally been worse over the past few years, in my experience. The bigger issue for us is usually traffic on the QEW.

   26. Rants Mulliniks Posted: November 15, 2012 at 10:23 AM (#4303277)
Just wait until someone pees on his rug.


Everytime I hear "out of your element" I say it in my head in Walter's voice. "Donny, you're out of your element!!".
   27. RJ in TO Posted: November 15, 2012 at 10:41 AM (#4303296)
if you go back to one of the stories about it from last offseason, i can almost guarantee that you'll find someone snarking about loria already planning his next firesale.

Here are some of the Jose Reyes ones, and the Mark Buehrle signs one.
   28. My guest will be Jermaine Allensworth Posted: November 15, 2012 at 11:02 AM (#4303318)
It's my recollection that the Sox declined to make him an offer. Is that true?

I remember it like that too. Or at least it was public knowledge that they couldn't afford a competitive offer.

It's closer to that. He wanted to test the market, and when he came back to the Sox with Miami's offer, they basically said, "Yeah, we can't match that."

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