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St. Petersburg Times: LaMar seeking best prospects for trade

Chuck LaMar on his portrayal as a difficult trade partner…

“It is a case where they have to give up one or two of their best young players and I’m not going to apologize for that,” he said. “Sometimes when you have our record, other teams portray it that it’s almost like we’re supposed to make a trade with them.

“No. Our job is to try to beat you in the future. To do that we have to have players as good as you. That’s going to cost some of your young players.”

NTNgod Posted: July 28, 2005 at 07:02 AM | 16 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Шĥy Posted: July 28, 2005 at 01:32 PM (#1504573)
LaMar will never be the same after encountering Duquette. He supposedly asked the Cubs for Carlos Zambrano for Baez.
   2. Hendry's Wad of Cash (UCCF) Posted: July 28, 2005 at 01:40 PM (#1504580)
He sounds like some of the last place owners in fantasy leagues I've been in. Of course, unlike them, he does have to prepare for the future.

But when the choices are demand only young superstars for whoever it is you're trading away, or make no trades and just let the team get older and continue to suck, you might want to try to find some kind of middle ground.

Not every GM is going to be stupid enough to give you Kazmir for driftwood.
   3. Dan The Mediocre is one of "the rest" Posted: July 28, 2005 at 01:49 PM (#1504591)
He supposedly asked the Cubs for Carlos Zambrano for Baez.

If he asked that he belongs in a mental ward.

It would be one thing if he asked for prospects, but it's another to ask for someone who is already producing at a high rate in a more important position.
   4. Russ Posted: July 28, 2005 at 01:49 PM (#1504592)
I disagree here to a certain extent... there would be some carryover by NOT trading for less than you can get as people will understand that you won't bend over.

No one takes David Littlefield seriously anymore cause he has gotten taken to the woodshed on these types of deadline deals so often. He does better on the large superstar type deals (see Giles, Brian), but for guys in between, not so good.
   5. 1k5v3L Posted: July 28, 2005 at 02:02 PM (#1504606)
I'd rather have Chuck LaMar than Joe Jr. Period.
   6. Sam M. Posted: July 28, 2005 at 02:05 PM (#1504611)
"It is a case where they have to give up one or two of their best young players and I’m not going to apologize for that,”

No apology needed, Chuck. Nothing wrong with asking for the moon. Can't hurt. But have you noticed that you keep getting transferred to voice mail every time you call and ask to speak to Omar? Not a coincidence.
   7. Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: July 28, 2005 at 02:06 PM (#1504612)
Yeah. Littlefield missed out on trading a few guys by being a real hardliner in '03, and he appears to have compensated by adopting a new strategy: Curl into a ball and scream "Please don't hurt me!"
   8. Kevin McClatchy Posted: July 28, 2005 at 02:21 PM (#1504627)
LaMar will never be the same after encountering Duquette. He supposedly asked the Cubs for Carlos Zambrano for Baez.

Oh, Chuck. Don't let's ask for the moon. We have the stars.
   9. Bucs Fan Posted: July 28, 2005 at 02:27 PM (#1504631)
Littlefield missed out on trading a few guys by being a real hardliner in '03

Vlad, I'm pretty sure you're referring to DL's insistence that other teams offer value for Matt Stairs and Reggie Sanders, and not the Aramis Ramirez/Kenny Lofton-for-squat deal.
   10. Walt Davis Posted: July 28, 2005 at 03:19 PM (#1504732)
I don't know what LaMar is asking for, but I generally agree with his philosophy. Particularly on Huff and Lugo. Both are young, still cheap, and not pending FAs. There is no compelling reason for him to trade them unless he thinks he's getting equal or better players in return.

The attitude (from media and fans mostly) he's bucking against has been one that's been bugging me for a few years too. It seems that every bad team with a young player who's arb-eligible but not a pending FA is still "supposed" to trade that player cuz, golly, he costs $3 M and they won't be able to resign him two years from now.

That said, for a solid but unspectacular reliever like Baez, strike while the iron is hot. He could be just as good a pitcher next year but blow 10 of 20 saves and no one will want him.

And if they finally think Upton is ready, Lugo should go too.
   11. Johnny Zen Posted: July 28, 2005 at 03:54 PM (#1504809)
The Phillies offered Madson for Baez.

####.
   12. 1k5v3L Posted: July 28, 2005 at 03:58 PM (#1504819)
The Rays would be crazy NOT to take that trade. ####
   13. Johnny Zen Posted: July 28, 2005 at 04:03 PM (#1504832)
Yeah, especially since they'd actually plug him into the rotation.
   14. NTNgod Posted: August 01, 2005 at 12:54 AM (#1514081)
Chuck LaMar post-deadline interview:

AP: Lots of discussions, but no moves for Tampa Bay

"I had talks with the Mets concerning both Danys Baez and Julio Lugo. I had discussions with Boston about Aubrey Huff," LaMar said Sunday. "And those talks individually weren't really going anywhere, so we met for three hours a couple days ago as a baseball staff and came up with this proposal knowing what we knew about Manny and his situation of possibly going to the Mets. Because we had discussions with those two teams, we thought there maybe a chance to make a blockbuster deal and sort of be a part of that kind of deal."
   15. Flynn Posted: August 01, 2005 at 01:44 AM (#1514149)
The D-Rays are insane. How can you not trade those guys?
   16. Gaylord Perry the Platypus (oi!) Posted: August 01, 2005 at 02:00 AM (#1514163)
There was no need to trade them. For the right price, sure, but what they were offered will probably be available in the offseason as well.

Plus, there's always the waiver trade route. No reason TB can't put most of the roster through waivers now, and pull back anyone they feel the need to.

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