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Michael Barone posts on BTF?
Zippy's 2nd term ended with Obama's inauguration, I'm pretty sure.
How did the modern tea party movement morph into this? I stopped in at an early tea party protest at my state capital during lunch on tax day in 2009. It was a civil protest about the increase in government spending and increase in federal and state government taxation. Both the 2009 stimulus bill and the 2008 stimulus bill that was passed and then signed by President Bush were topics at the protest, it was not a Rep against Dem issue. I'm not sure what the demographics of this event was in terms of left-center-right breakdown, but I never felt like it was a Republican rally vs the new Dem white house and congress. It was a very on point form of dissent which had enough discontent for both major parties.
Since then, either my media portrayal or by the Tea-party participants radical actions, more than likely a combination of both, it has morphed into this crazy anti-Obama anti-Democrat movement. From what I saw 16 months ago, I never thought I would see tea-party protesters become a collective group of birthers, putting up billboards comparing Obama to Hitler, claiming Obama is a Muslim sympathizer, or any other idiotic action like that. Tea party had a message and a point but now it's just morphed into idiocracy.
Crumb tried to warn us. (Probably NSFW)
As a matter of statistical counting, keep in mind (going forward) that there are three distinct events going on in DC this weekend. Beckapalooza, a counter protest to Beckamania, and a celebration of women's suffrage. Watch for conflation of statistics/attendees.
No, they're lies because his claims (and yours) that Obama is some sort of radical loon whose policies are destroying America are obviously and objectively untrue. The reason Beck and the tea partiers are extremists is not because they dislike and disagree with the President, it's because they are incapable of disagreeing with the President and his supporters in any sort of rational or reasonable way.
a. since when is whether or not something is a lie in the "eye of the beholder"? The fact that that statement could even be made speaks to the overwhelming success of the populist Republican media machine's strategy over the past two years.
b. if you are interested in the historical & intellectual roots of Progressivism, then surely you understand they emerged largely as a redress to the pervasive societal ills of the Gilded Age, which remains the only period of American history that rivals the present for widespread inequality and lack of social mobility. This "welfare state" you speak of has been rolled back, and it has given us another era of plutocracy.
And... check.
All I can think of now is the scene from _Almost Famous_ where the Billy Crudup character, under the influence of one drug or another, declares that he's a golden god and jumps into a swimming pool from a rooftop.
Obama is not any sort of golden god. The party he leads is so corrupt, lousy, ineffectual and spineless that I somewhat resent having to vote for nearly everyone it fields, simply because the alternative is supporting a national suicide cult.
As for Pujols, yeah, this is a head scratcher. If I bothered me that much that pro jocks tend to be right-wingers than I probably wouldn't follow sports at all. But there's definitely a psychological difference between something I vaguely understand and something I'm forced to confront. He has a right to associate himself with whomever he wants to associate...but I have also right to put him on my #### list as a result. And the "non-polticial" thing strains any sort of plausible deniability, or he's really, really, naive.
I come from a long line of tree-dwelling simpletons. A FEMA trailer would be our suite at the Four Seasons.
How it became what it is now: four words, two of them stuck together.
Fox News (a Republican organization)
FreedomWorks (a Republican organization)
The house I more or less grew up in (to the extent that I ever "grew up," of course) in the southwest corner of Arkansas & then sold for something like $3,000 in 1988, a few years after my mother died, was razed & replaced with a trailer. I haven't decided whether this places me one level above or one level below trailer trash.
(I've never been associated with a pickup in an ownership capacity, which probably figures into the calculus ... though I'm not sure exactly how.)
The real question is why a vegetarian San Francisco lawyer like La Russa is apparently right-wing.
Egads.
HIJACK!
What do you (plural) think you know more about than any other poster on this site? Let's not be shy.
I'm going to go with classical music, although I have serious SERIOUS competition in Vaux. He has a doctorate and a job, and I do not. Szym also would be close.
Other things: jigsaw puzzles, science fiction, and the Battle of Oriskany. (My edit got caught. No good claiming to be second-best at something.)
And/or an idiot.
But I repeat myself.
My quasi-expertise (read: my interest, pretty much) ends around Phil Dick's alleged death in 1982, but I suspect you have some rivals when it comes to sf. I'd claim the New Left as well, but goddamned Andy was there at the time, goddammit.
Me? Comics (Silver & Bronze Age) & horror movies (with an emphasis on zombie flicks) come immediately to mind.
So Beck's a Mormon, big deal.
Oh you mean the conspiracy theory of covering up a civilized native american culture? Yeah that's... I don't know a word to accurately describe that.
Popular music, 1964-1999.
Some political micro-topics.
What do you (plural) think you know more about than any other poster on this site?
Reese's Peanut Butter Cups and Dr. Pepper.
I just checked Google &, by god, I guess he is. Which explains so much that it makes me want to smear Vicks VapoRub under my eyes & weep.
The female anatomy (sorry, bbchick)
Really?
More so than the Progressive Conservative Party of Canada was crushed in 1993?
They went from 169 (of 295) seats in parliament (in 1988) to only 2 (of 295).
They were the ruling party of the nation, and ended up losing official status as a political party!
Unless you are only 16 years old, you might want to tone down on the rhetoric.
Sure, and after we talk about how silly the Mormons are, we can laugh at the Christians, the Jews, the Buddhists, and all other people of faith. Except for the Muslims; you are an Islamophobe if you mock those guys.
edit...wait, that's a little ambitious...the Boston-NY-Philly-Pittsburgh circuit, 1965-1975.
Name the A- (& only) side of Tone Deaf & the Idiots' flexi from '79.
Yeah. Thought so.
But that's liberals for you. They will talk all about respect and tolerance for diversity--and move to demonize it and suppress it once it disagrees with their orthodoxy.
The movie "Force 10 From Navarone". I've seen it twice and there can't be anyone else on the planet who can say that, including the director, producers, editor and actors.
Quote myself to say I'm not a righty (nor a lefty), and I was not trying to defend Beck. I forgot declaring what side you're on matters around here when making statement in a political statement.
He's so ridiculously funny sometimes I just had to watch. This just wasn't that outlandish, it's just the evolutionary step of the Mormon faith.
I'd say the only thing the Christians/Jews/Buddhists/Moslems/etc. have on the Mormons is the veneer of antiquity. Which I guess is why the Scientologists seem even crazier than the Mormons; their utter nonsense is much more recent, & their "prophet" even more demonstrable a scam artist.
What do you (plural) think you know more about than any other poster on this site? Let's not be shy.
Truth, beauty and the American Way.
I would be happy to talk about the likely death of B & C shares of mutual funds and any other topic related to the '40 Act.
I could lead the eye gouging seminar with Rule 12b-1 reform and Lassus could close it out with a 'how to' on tips on assembling the blue sky pieces over a Mount Rainier jigsaw puzzle.
Primey!
Wait. You're serious.
Oh, dear.
Could I have given you a better lead-in? Seriously? And THIS is what you say you're an expert in? Try again.
He said "Popular."
Your mom.
Isn't that everyone? No group has a monopoly on that one.
Of course it's not political; it's only being hosted by Glenn Beck.
#### me; thank god you're a major-league manager; without that position you'd be living on the streets having blown everything you own sending your ####### bank account information to a Nigerian prince who promises you vast wealth in exchange for use of it, you stupid ############.
I'm glad I'm not in your email address book, Tony; you seem to be the type of moron who forwards me #### like FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:IS THIS REAL????? with that art sculpture of that human-pig hybrid thing we've all seen a billion times and 50 other forwards a day along the lines of FW:FW:FW:FW:FW:IF YOU FORWARD THIS TO 50 PEOPLE STEVE JOBS WILL GIVE YOU AN IPAD!!!!!. ####, you probably believed in Santa Claus until you were 34, you moron.
The American Basketball Association.
And I suspect I know more about punk/postpunk, at least through 2000 or so, than anyone here not named Repoz.
- Mississippi high school football
- Anton Cermak
- creative writing pedagogy
- Barry Hannah
- how much my condo board sucks
I've watched twice all the way through at least twice and because it was/is on TBS a lot I've probably seen parts of it mulitple times. Now if you had said you watched Jawbreaker twice that would definitely make you THE expert on that film since that movie probably had to employ multiple editors to cut that film. I doubt anyone can actually watch more than 10 minutes of that movie.
Good point. If there's a university somewhere with a program in Unpopular Culture, I figure I could earn myself a doctorate in a week.
Wow -- now that's a challenge. I've got the VHS at home ...
The previews make it seem like a Heathers wannabe with a lesser cast, but I gather that it fell far short of even that.
Oh, I dunno. Nine ball, poster making, used book shops, old magazines, and maybe a few thousand other things, but most of all, BAD FETUSES!
No, I know more than you...
No, I know more than you...
Do not!
Do, too!
Do not!
Do, too!
OK, now we can just skip the next several posts and move on to something more interesting.
Being completely serious, probably the process of producing and smoking crack, including pipe construction, and using cocaine. I had a drug problem for a while in college, been clean for over 4 years now.
Besides that:
- Software development and programming. Of course that's my profession.
- WVU football
- Camping, hiking, wilderness survival.
Surströmming and General Relativity.
The LDS theology merely suffers from the misfortune of having a significant portion of its founding mythology/doctrine originating from the 19th century, making elements of it more easily subject to falsification than is the case for religions, sects, or cults that originated in ancient (or, in the case of Islam, early medieval) times.
Baseball.
Actually, Indiana history/geography would be my guess.
Oh no, you don't. :-)
Judging from #129 & quite possibly #s 24 & 72, I'd say you're facing some serious competition.k
Could I have given you a better lead-in? Seriously? And THIS is what you say you're an expert in? Try again.
Well, I seriously considered saying "Robinred's mom" but I knew David had me beat there.
Becks's show gets 1.7 million to 2 million viewers a day. Nickelodeon's "iCarly" reruns get 8 million. Spongebob Squarepants gets 5 million for shows that have been rerun into the ground. MTV's "Jersey Shore" gets just under 5 million. Judge Judy gets 6 to 7 million. "Inside Edition" gets 4.5 million. Dr. Phil gets 3 to 4 million.
With narrowcasting ruling the day, 2 million viewers certainly doesn't make Beck a flop. But if you took a couple of the Fox/CNBC/CNN political personality shows, combined their audiences, and transferred the result to a major network, it would be cancelled because of low ratings. The noise these shows generate greatly outweighs their general popularity. It's kind of like these "Why Obama is Raping the Liberty Bell and What You Can Do to Stop It"/"Conservatives, Child Cannibals, and the H1N1 Virus: the Three-Headed Cabal Exposed"-type books that ZOOM TO #1 ON THE BEST-SELLER LIST based on not enough sales to fill in the empty seats at a Pirates game.
If this were true, you'd know there's no period in Dr Pepper.
As for me, I dunno, Herman Melville? New Weird? Small press fiction from abroad? The travails of the stay-at-home dad?
Boxing history in general, and the changes in boxing technique from the bare-knuckle era to the small-glove era in very specific.
Also functional changes in cerebromicrovasculature associated with various pathologies, but that's a thread-killer to be sure.
Actually, I do know quite a bit about meteorology.
What kind of numbers does Beck pull in compared to other Political opinion shows? Clearly more people watch reality TV than even good politcal driven shows. So claiming Beck is fringe when compared to spongebob, is making the claim that all cable news shows are fringe.
The noise these shows generate greatly outweighs their general popularity.
But the noise is generated by the same networks the shows run on. If no one is watching the shows, then who is watching the noise?
Not so fast my friend.
Me? Probably Big Ten Basketball, plate tectonics, astronomy.
My interest in boxing started fading about the time that Muhammed Ali's career did, but when I was a kid the local library had an oversized boxing history that I found absolutely fascinating, though at some point the volume went away. I need to do a bit of Googling to see if I can find out what it was & obtain a copy; about all I remember is that the dustjacket was mostly red, & that it must've come out in the mid-'60s, because I think Ali was still Cassius Clay & still the champ when the narrative ended. (Edit: It was probably the second [or thereabouts] edition of An Illustrated History of Boxing, which I see has been continuously in print since '59, but since I can't find any images of earlier dustjackets I'm not positive of that.)
(And after that I need to find out the name of that art-filled book on pirates that we had in our elementary school library. And the book on dinosaurs that I discovered in the public library circa 3rd grade. And the author of that series of juveniles that featured a kids team with a pitcher nicknamed "Fireball" who had a near-encyclopedic of baseball history ...)
Indie rock from 1991-2010
Post-structuralism
Random acts of violence
EDIT: The Atlanta Braves
Shortcuts in Wayne and Medina County Ohio
Redheaded Croatian chicks.
Dr. Pepper and I got our doctorate at the same time and then mocked Pibb harshly when he dropped out.
What in particular are you referring to? I'm not talking about stuff you simply disagree with. Theres this notion that hes a complete radical, which seems incredibly unfounded. The guy is Bill Clinton with a tan.
I took his "Writing of the Short Story" course at Ole Miss AND ate lunch in his office once. TOP THAT!
They are.
What's the theory on how many supercontinents have exists in the 4.5 billion year history of Earth? This is not a test, I'm just curious to ask an expert. I remember in high school basic science talked about just 1 (Pangaea). I saw a show a few weeks ago on nat-geo or discovery and they were talking about how several have formed and split in the planet's history, but really gave no indication towards even an estimation on the number of times it's happened.
For some reason, plate tectonics and their involvement with the history of Earth fascinate me.
Anyone else wonder what Retardo's response to this news will be?
If I ever need to make a living writing soft erotica I will use Dick Lovecraft as my pseudonym.
Aren't they?
Nothing that will impress anyone. Still:
Veronica Mars
Doctor Who
Buffy the Vampire Slayer
Versions 10 and 11 of Out of the Park Baseball
Kindred, and probably the works of Octavia Butler in general
The Haunting of Hill House and We Have Always Lived in the Castle
The Village, since only myself and 10 other people saw it
The works of Dashiell Hammett
Orson Welles
Tim Treadwell
Yes, I'm a geek and proud of it.
Orioles history
Cooking and cookbooks
making pizza at home
photography, esp. digital camera equipment
class action and product liability law
P. K. Dick
David Mitchell
Dan Clowes
Talking Heads
But I'm sure there are at least a few others who know more than me about each of those topics.
Aren't they?
Ok I get it. Every political opinion show on cable news applies to only a fringe audience, nothing like that is mainstream.
Well then why do people in the mainstream get upset when those idiots say something stupid? If only a few million people watch about those type of shows, then why should the masses care?
But, see, the people you're talking about are so hopelessly demented that they think Clinton was some sort of Bolshevik.
Perhaps the "noise" created by these shows is because of a great deal of churn? If Beck has 2 million viewers for the show, that could mean 2 million devoted followers who watch every day, or 1 million devoted followers and another 30 million people who watch once in a while. And then perhaps because of cross-promotion on Fox that raises his profile - all the top rated shows are on Fox. And then perhaps the "noise" is accentuated by the fact that these cable news guys have become the news, so Glenn Beck interviewing Keith Ellison is on EVERY cable news show.
But I'm speculating. I do find it strange.
As a charter member of the Philip K. Dick Society back in '83, I have to like my chances in at least one of those categories.
It serves as an effective political weapon. People are at least as driven by a dislike of the other side as they are by their own beliefs.
Beck's simply a former shock jock who realized that, while the niche of radio shock jock was filled pretty well, the niche of an insane right-wing demagogue who dog-whistlely calls for armed revolution of fat white people reclaiming their country from the minorities and other groups that they're scared of, wasn't. And now he's got money coming out the ass from book deals and radio contracts
Him and Ann Coulter; I'm sure both are Republicans, but I'd bet they each believe, oh, about 30% of the #### they say. The rest is pablum for the masses.
Is Grouseland still open to the public? Is it worth visiting? I've found Indiana history is tied tightly to Ontario history due to WHH, Tippecanoe and the War of 1812.
Do they?
I forget but which side did O'Reilly, Rush, Beck, and Coulter support in 2008?
Battle cruisers (the HMS Invincible type, not the Klingon type), Fiestaware.
I'm not sure that's exactly how I'd construct it, but what a great damned compound modifier!
That's more disturbing than hokineer's crack problem.
Well, perhaps. I like Esoteric, but politically he is and has always been a right-wing partisan hard-on underneath the nice manners. He is more or less on the same page, in his view of issues and pols, and his personal attitude about the values, ideas, and character of liberals, as Joey B is. On Election Night, Esoteric referred to Obama's victory as the "Death of America", so I don't know if he is a real yardstick for what you are talking about.
I am not sure that we are any more of an "unhappy country" than we once were, but IMO what the 24/7/365 wired media digital era does is magnify whatever it is that people are into, so things seem more intense. The internet and cable etc. allow people to obsess even more intensely on whatever it is that catches their attention, be it porn, indie rock, Star Trek, sabermetrics, or partisan politics. So what happens now is that as soon as the new guy takes office, you have about 50% of the country acting like it's a nightmare, it's "un-American", we are being "held hostage", and everything is going straight to hell, and you have an entire wing of the media--the Becks and the Limbaughs and the Olbermanns--whose ratings depend on fomenting that. I don't know that this dynamic is any more intense than it was in 1962 or 1853, but it is in our faces much more, due to the technical nature of the media.
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