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Monday, August 01, 2011
Or as my kid said when first seeing the J.D. Drew Rookie Card...“THAT’S the new Mickey Mantle?”
To paraphrase, for (Bill) Simmons, there were a couple “solid” seasons “from a saber standpoint” but he lacked Trot Nixon’s fire and Drew’s personality was probably never meant for Boston (Boston’s a really special place, you guys!) but a big part of the reason that Adrian Gonzalez’s deal is working out so well is that his personality fits here. That’s the lunacy that passes for real analysis while actual evidence to the contrary is right there to check out for anyone inclined to take the time. How is Bill Simmons explaining which “lessons” Theo Epstein can learn about baseball personnel any different than Kige Ramsey lecturing Simmons on the finer points of building a strong internet brand?
...Nothing against Mike Lowell, of course, but the contrast of Drew and Lowell ties together why their incongruous treatment by the media matters. Lowell can come back to Boston any time, sign some autographs, make some money, do some television and never purchase a meal of his own. Really, he is something of a local hero. On the other hand, despite both his team and personal successes, the media climate has made for a difficult five years in Drew’s case. If he chooses to retire, I wouldn’t blame him for never returning to Boston again. In short, media treatment impacts lives, and their unfair treatment of Drew has undeservedly made his life worse than it otherwise could have been. That might not resonate with some readers because Drew’s wealthy, but there’s more to life than money. Drew accepted a contract offered to him and honored that contract by playing it out with professionalism. The boos and the media hit jobs were never part of the deal.
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1. YearOfGlad Posted: August 01, 2011 at 06:52 PM (#3890447)"Who, exactly, um, let you guys out? Not like I'm gonna narc or anything...."
And for the billionth time: JD's OPS at this time in 2007 was about 100 points higher than Crawford's is now. For 6 million less.
And while Crawford gets a lot of stick...it's nothing compared to the hellfire-fueled shitstorm JD got.
2007 was a major offensive year vs. 2011 year of the Pitcher: Part II.
He hit .235/.257/.441 in 3 ALDS, .306/.382/.469 in 2 ALCS, and .333/.412/.467 in his only WS.
He's toasty and it's probably time to hang them up, he could be maddening at times with his passivity at the plate, but he was a fine player and to the best of my knowledge a class act.
I wasn't expecting dramatically better but I was expecting more than we got.
I sympathise with the sentiment of the article but Drew has been taking boos and media hits since the day he stepped on a ML field. He was unloved by fans and especially some members of the media everywhere he played -- through no fault of his own.* He was naive if he thought that, in Boston of all places, things would be different.
If I remember correctly, the LA media jerks hated the contract the day it was signed. Then they ridiculed the idea of the opt-out clause because nobody would be dumb enough to sign him for more but they hoped he would use it. Then they ridiculed him for being dumb enough to exercise the opt-out. Then they called him a traitor** for signing with Boston.
* except for the Philly decision ... which wasn't a "fault" but at least was his own decision.
** I don't think they called him a "traitor" literally but I can't think of another term here. Disloyal maybe? Maybe just greedy?
He might as well have. This wasn't the first time I've been surprised to remember that J.D. Drew is still in the big leagues. He's completely dropped off my radar ever since he left the NL.
I don't have anything against J.D. Big grand slam forgave any sub-par performance sins, but I don't see any way his days as a Sox RFer - offensively, defenisvely, peak, overall - topped Trot's. He was better than Darren Bragg, Billy Hatcher or Tom Brunansky.
He was, part of a back-to-back-to-back-to-back effort against the Yankees, which, when the Yankee: ordinary opponent exchange rate is applied, is the equivalent of back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back-to-back homers.
What's funny about Drew is that he is the kind of guy fans say they want to see. He never shows anyone up, runs out everything and his fundamentals are flawless. If you want to teach a kid to play the outfield or run the bases, have him watch Drew. I think Shooty is right that if he wasn't on a team you followed, he would not be memorable at all.
JD 2007 OPS+ : 107
CC 2011 OPS+ 76
and re-Trot: And they will both have played about the same number of games per season as full-time players! Trot was on the DL 5 times from 2004-2008...JD, twice from 2007-2011
While RBI might not be the best measure of talent (in fact, a bad one), they sure as heck tend to stick in the mind of people watching the games.
I think it's a fair treatment for me to fondly remember his yearly contributions and his big postseason moments (The GS is a little overrated IMHO, his game 5 performance the following year was more important to me) but also roll my eyes a little at him being a last-minute scratch on opening day and also having no observable reaction to Ellsbury stealing home right in front of him.
All in all it wasn't a terrible contract. He's not really a viable starter on a good teams anymore, but he gave us fans a few good years. That 5th year was in a way a bad break for Drew since he might have gotten another deal, in Boston or elsewhere, had his contract been up a year or two sooner.
But it looks like he's done in Boston and that's probably fine for both player and team.
Simmons is an idiot, at least when it comes to baseball (and probably other sports, I don't follow them as closely so I can't say). At this point, I don't see how his analysis is any different than other MSM guys, except he doesn't even have the access to these guys' that the beat guys/working columnists do to give his armchair psychoanalysis even a veneer of respectability.
Had the Sox not scored there, that game easily could have gone the other way even though it became a blow out. For what it's worth, that was as apeshit as I ever remember a Fenway crowd going, it was madness in a way I have rarely experienced in that place.
That said I agree that game five in 2008 was bigger. That was a monster effort in a huge spot.
What's sad is that when he started, he was a good alternative to the MSM guys and his writing on the Sox was enjoyable. He used to be able to successfully write partially using his fan perspective. Now he is the out-of-touch guy who flies in to sit in box seats for ALCS games and half-assedly writes annual "The Sox have no personality this year" columns. Maybe this ownership/management is not conducive to giving him good material. His criticisms of Francona and Theo are bizarre (he knocks Theo for signings that he never actually made, just because he had interest in players who didn't turn out great, Pavano, Contreras etc.)
That's true in general, but that game seems like one of the worst examples of it I can think of; Fausto was a sitting duck and they would have chased him early even if Drew's hit gets caught on the track, I would have to imagine.
Now, there's nothing wrong with that on a baseball level, and I think people making a big deal of Drew's temperament fail miserably to explain why it matters on a baseball level. But I think it's important to say that Drew is a man of distinctly odd temperament, at least in its public presentation.
This is just blatant robophobist slander.
in 2010 with Pawtucket he had almost 500 PA's and went .266 / .301 / .466
The best is when Simmons tries to talk about hockey. It basically consists of the 1988 team, then fast-forwarding to after they won the Cup.
It seems like Drew had one really great year in Boston (2009), a couple of decent ones (2007-08), one mediocre (2010) and one disaster (2011). That's probably a little less than what the Sox were hoping for, but as noted, he had some huge hits in the playoffs, so it balances out.
What I will remember and miss about Drew is his graceful play in the field, a pleasure to watch.
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