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Wednesday, September 26, 2012

Sullivan: Judgment day coming real soon for Cubs youngsters

That MONSTER…He’s Going To Kill The Cubs!

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Sveum has had enough time to get a look at the parade of young talent that has arrived in the last couple of months. But has he seen enough to be able to evaluate which players will be in the Cubs’ plans in 2013?

“You have a good idea,” he said. “Now whatever we do in the winter is a different story of where we’re going to fill holes or that kind of thing. But you definitely have a good idea of the character of people, the ‘pitchability’ — making pitches and being able to repeat (deliveries). ‘Does this guy need to develop, or does he have a chance of making our team?’ We’ve seen enough of everybody for that.”

The only prospect the Cubs acquired in a deadline trade who actually made it to the roster by September was reliever Jaye Chapman, who has opened some eyes with a 1.93 earned-run average in 10 appearances before Tuesday. The most important prospect the Cubs acquired was starter Arodys Vizcaino, who is still rehabbing from elbow surgery.

Vizcaino joined the team this week and is scheduled to be ready to start pitching again by spring training. But like Jeff Samardzija this season, Vizcaino will be watched closely and his innings will be monitored in 2013.

Repoz Posted: September 26, 2012 at 10:55 AM | 28 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: September 26, 2012 at 11:13 AM (#4246136)
Reporter: What do you think about your team's execution?
Buccaneers coach John McKay: I'm all for it.
   2. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 26, 2012 at 01:34 PM (#4246334)
I would like to make the formal request that the daily NL playoff thread include a "Chase for 100" sub-section.
   3. zonk Posted: September 26, 2012 at 01:54 PM (#4246367)
.500 ball over the final 8 to avoid 100 losses... What happens if the Cubs last game is rained out? Do we petition the league to demand it be played so that we can get the answer?
   4. HMS Moses Taylor Posted: September 26, 2012 at 02:13 PM (#4246382)
So you think the Cubs are going to go 4-3 over the next 7? I'm guessing they could rain out the last 3 games, and we'll already have our answer.
   5. Walks Clog Up the Bases Posted: September 26, 2012 at 02:21 PM (#4246391)
Realistically, they probably need to take the next two in Colorado if they want to avoid the 100-loss mark. They've been dreadful in Arizona pretty much since the beginning of time, so they'll need to stock up on wins in Colorado and against Houston if they wanna do this.

I thought they had a good shot at a win last night until I was reminded that Rusin is terrible and Dolis is even more terrible.
   6. Brian C Posted: September 26, 2012 at 03:19 PM (#4246448)
Yeah, Dolis does not look like a major league talent to me. Neither does Rusin, although he at least has a shot at success in the "extra starter to keep Casey Coleman away" role.
   7. Tom Nawrocki Posted: September 26, 2012 at 03:26 PM (#4246456)
Realistically, they probably need to take the next two in Colorado if they want to avoid the 100-loss mark.


The Rockies are also trying to avoid the 100-loss mark. That series is a real race to the bottom.

It's raining here in Denver now, which might be the best thing for both teams.
   8. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: September 26, 2012 at 04:57 PM (#4246556)
The Cubs and the Pirates have both won exactly 205 games in the last three seasons, as of the latest B-R data. So add the Cubs-Pirates "race to futility" to the failure thread as well.

   9. Spahn Insane Posted: September 26, 2012 at 05:09 PM (#4246574)
Wait--Dolis is *starting*? Dude.
   10. Brian C Posted: September 26, 2012 at 06:05 PM (#4246638)
Wait--what? Who said he's starting? That has to be a hoax, right?
   11. Walt Davis Posted: September 26, 2012 at 06:18 PM (#4246651)
No, Dolis is not starting, he came on in relief of Rusin and promptly gave up something like 5 runs.
   12. Walt Davis Posted: September 26, 2012 at 06:20 PM (#4246653)
By the way, that looks like a really lame version of the Avengers -- like this is a really lame version of the Cubs. What is that -- Vision, Scarlet Witch, Black Panther, Quicksilver and one of the extra lame versions of Hawkeye? I'm pretty sure the world has the Justice League to thank for keeping us safe during those years.
   13. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: September 26, 2012 at 06:30 PM (#4246663)
Wait, I thought the charges against Castro were dismissed.
   14. Everybody Loves Tyrus Raymond Posted: September 26, 2012 at 06:43 PM (#4246678)
What happens if the Cubs last game is rained out? Do we petition the league to demand it be played so that we can get the answer?


A rainout in this game could also rob the Astros of their chance to lose 110 games.
   15. Mike Emeigh Posted: September 26, 2012 at 07:19 PM (#4246709)
I've always thought Dolis could carve out a major league career as a low-leverage reliever in the Chris Resop mold, if nothing else.

-- MWE
   16. Mike Webber Posted: September 26, 2012 at 09:52 PM (#4246796)
WTF with the Avengers? I thought Repoz was DC only guy.
   17. McCoy Posted: September 26, 2012 at 09:56 PM (#4246798)
The Cubs suck and will suck for awhile.
   18. zonk Posted: September 26, 2012 at 10:11 PM (#4246805)
I'm curious to know how many Cubs fans are secretly rooting FOR 100 losses versus AGAINST 100 losses.

I mean, I'll admit... it's just an arbitrary number once you get down to 90+ losses and it would be the first one in what... 55 years?

Put me in the pro-100 losses camp. From any perspective, there's no real difference between 98 and 100 losses at this point - might as well be a part of history.
   19. Brian C Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:32 PM (#4247183)
I'm rooting against 100 losses, for the same reason that I'm rooting against 99 or 98 or 97 - because on any given day, I want the Cubs to win the game they're playing. It doesn't make a big difference in my life on a daily basis whether they win or lose, but it's always nicer when they win. Hence rooting for more losses seems perverse to me, whether or not a particular milestone is involved.

I've always thought Dolis could carve out a major league career as a low-leverage reliever in the Chris Resop mold, if nothing else.

But isn't Chris Resop sort of terrible? Doesn't seem like a coincidence that he bounced around from team to team before finally sticking with a bad one.
   20. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:47 PM (#4247200)
I'm rooting against 100 losses, for the same reason that I'm rooting against 99 or 98 or 97 - because on any given day, I want the Cubs to win the game they're playing.

The only reason to root for losses is Draft position. But it looks like the Cubs are pretty solidly in charge of the #2 pick, and can't "catch" Houston for #1.
   21. The Id of SugarBear Blanks Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM (#4247210)
The Cubs suck and will suck for awhile.

A result that was entirely unnecessary, and consciously self-inflicted. The presence of a "name" in the GM's office shouldn't obscure fans to this truism.

Contention for the second wild card was within reach and should have been the team's goal. The idea that you can't simultaneously rebuild and play well is fallacious.

Oh yeah ... other than Castro and Rizzo and maybe Castillo, the youngsters pretty much aren't any good.
   22. SoSH U at work Posted: September 27, 2012 at 12:55 PM (#4247211)
The only reason to root for losses is Draft position.


Not true. I'll be rooting like hell for the Red Sox to get swept this weekend. Of course, I'd like to see them finish off the dispiriting 2012 campaign with a nice 3-game win streak.

(In general, I'd say it's also OK to root for losses if you think it might expedite the exit of the manager/GM).



   23. Brian C Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:14 PM (#4247230)
(In general, I'd say it's also OK to root for losses if you think it might expedite the exit of the manager/GM).

See, I learned during the Hendry/Baker years that this takes way longer than you'd think and is no sure bet anyway. So, you might as well root for wins.
   24. JJ1986 Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:19 PM (#4247235)
The presence of a "name" in the GM's office


Jed Hoyer is a "name"?
   25. UCCF Posted: September 27, 2012 at 01:33 PM (#4247253)
I'm curious to know how many Cubs fans are secretly rooting FOR 100 losses versus AGAINST 100 losses.

Only because I said at the beginning of the season that this would be the first 100-loss Cub team of my lifetime, would I root for them to get to 100. It's true - there's no real difference between losing 98 and losing 100.

These Cubs are depressing to watch, though. Like early 80s-level depressing. You just have to hope that Castro or Rizzo turns into Sandberg and they build enough bit parts around them to contend.
   26. Morton's Fork Posted: September 27, 2012 at 02:04 PM (#4247294)
The presence of a "name" in the GM's office

Jed Hoyer is a "name"?


He is in my house. I'm a Red Sox fan and my entryway (adorned by an 8' 2007 WS banner) was renamed a couple years ago.

The Jed Hoyer Memorial Foyer.
   27. Don Geovany Soto (chris h.) Posted: September 27, 2012 at 02:41 PM (#4247338)
I dunno that the Cubs have the #2 pick locked up; the Rockies are only 2 games "behind."

I'm rooting for the pick (although the marginal difference between #2 and #3 might not be all that huge). Was hoping for a #1, but...stupid Astros.
   28. Brian C Posted: September 28, 2012 at 01:02 PM (#4248091)
At this point, the thing I'm rooting for the most is for Chris Volstad to be non-tendered. I mean, I'd prefer for him to be ridden out of Wrigley on a rail, like Homer Stokes at the end of O Brother, Where Art Thou?, but I'd settle for non-tendered.

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