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Survivor: Philippines: ‘Facts of Life’ star Lisa Whelchel and baseball MVP Jeff Kent in new cast

From Proposition Ate to Proposition 8…who watches this ####?

A 1980s sitcom star and a major league baseball MVP will join 13 other new players — as well as three returning ones — when Survivor: Philippines premieres on CBS with a special 90-minute episode at 8 p.m. ET on Sept. 19.

...But Whelchel is not the only famous face that will be new to the island this year. Former National League Most Valuable Player Jeff Kent — another longtime fan — will also be playing for the million dollars. And he plans to bring that same fiery competitiveness he was known for in baseball to the island. “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder,” Kent said before the game began. “I hate to lose.” Like Whelchel, Kent is keeping his fingers crossed that his fellow players will be unaware of his athletic accomplishments. “You know, there are not many tall white guys with mustaches walking around still these days. I’m hoping my reputation’s not big enough that these people know who I am.”

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   1. UCCF Posted: August 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4212537)
He'll be fine until the truck washing challenge.
   2. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 12:57 PM (#4212547)
You know, there are not many tall white guys with mustaches walking around still these days.


You've never been to Williamsburg, have you?
   3. dr. scott Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:09 PM (#4212565)
I like his plan to stay undercover by giving quotes to the media. That will surely throw them off.

If he does win, it will be because a much more talented player on his own team is overlooked by the judges.
   4. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:11 PM (#4212567)
You know, there are not many tall white guys with mustaches walking around still these days.


Sure there are. They're the guys that drive around in ice cream trucks with tinted windows and watch kids at the park wearing sunglasses and trenchcoats.
   5. AROM Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:19 PM (#4212580)
Jeff Kent is 6'1". Is that supposed to be tall?

OK, in the Philippines it is, average male height there is 5'4".
   6. Matt Clement of Alexandria Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:22 PM (#4212585)
Is his plan to just lie to everyone about his identity? Does that work?

If his plan really is to hide his identity, then shave your stupid moustache you big stupid dummy.
   7. Dag Nabbit: secretary of the World Banana Forum Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:26 PM (#4212592)
You know, there are not many tall white guys with mustaches walking around still these days.

Sure there are. They're the guys that drive around in ice cream trucks with tinted windows and watch kids at the park wearing sunglasses and trenchcoats.

You don't see too many kids wearing sunglasses and trenchcoats, either.

Ned Flanders - he still has a mustache.
   8. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:29 PM (#4212596)
Good Lord! Those are some large boobies in that photo.
   9. PreservedFish Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:33 PM (#4212597)
Fake boobs just get weirder and weirder in Survivor, as the surrounding body thins and disappears.
   10. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:34 PM (#4212599)
#7 - Won't let me edit, but I should've said WHILE wearing trenchcoats and sunglasses...

Kent would've fit in better had he played in the '70's or '80's, when everyone and their brother was rockin' the 'stache. How many other big names from the '90's pulled it off? Unit...Piazza...Palmeiro... anyone else?

I shaved my goatee on a bet and sported the 'stache for just a single day earlier this year and was called Chester the Molester by all my co-workers. But I won the bet...
   11. Harmon "Thread Killer" Microbrew Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:37 PM (#4212603)
I like his plan to stay undercover by giving quotes to the media. That will surely throw them off.


Pretty sure that filming is already over, given that the season is to air next month.
   12. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:39 PM (#4212604)
Kent would've fit in better had he played in the '70's or '80's, when everyone and their brother was rockin' the 'stache. How many other big names from the '90's pulled it off? Unit...Piazza...Palmeiro... anyone else?


Eck.
   13. PreservedFish Posted: August 20, 2012 at 01:44 PM (#4212613)
How many other big names from the '90's pulled it off?


Did Kent really "pull it off"? I think his mustache was just ... there.
   14. Darren Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:07 PM (#4212644)
But I won the bet...


Or did you...
   15. Swoboda is freedom Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:17 PM (#4212660)
Good Lord! Those are some large boobies in that photo.

I didn't know Kent got a boob job.
   16. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4212669)
Eck.


Doesn't count. He already had it in the 70's and 80's and just refused to let it go.

   17. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:24 PM (#4212671)
But I won the bet...

Or did you...


From the fun they seemed to have with it, I guess the whole office won. But it remains to be seen whether the free lunch I won was worth my name and pic probably ending up on the sex offender registry...
   18. Dangerous Dean Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:26 PM (#4212674)
Good Lord! Those are some large boobies in that photo.


Are you unfamiliar with this "Survivor" show? Big boobs= better ratings. By the standards of Survivor seasons past, the bossom crop this year is about average. There have been bigger seasons in that regard.
   19. Benji Gil Gamesh Rises Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:29 PM (#4212681)
I watched the very first season of Survivor religiously. By the time it ended, it was clear that the die had been cast regarding forming alliances and the like--every subsequent edition would be dramatically affected by players' knowledge of how the game had been played the first time--and I never watched it again.
   20. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:38 PM (#4212691)

If his plan really is to hide his identity, then shave your stupid moustache you big stupid dummy.


Some former NFL QB from the 80s - I believe Gary Hageboom - went unrecognized on the show except by one girl who worked as a sportscaster.

I doubt Jeff Kent has really infiltrated the public consciousness enough to get recognized. Besides, everyone will be like "hey, there's Tootie from Facts of Life!"*

*-I know, its Blair.
   21. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:39 PM (#4212694)
Kent would've fit in better had he played in the '70's or '80's, when everyone and their brother was rockin' the 'stache. How many other big names from the '90's pulled it off? Unit...Piazza...Palmeiro... anyone else?


Barry Bonds? Or do black guys operate under a different set of rules since they look cool no matter what facial hair they grow?

I wouldn't say the Unit "pulled it off". The only way he could pull it off was wearing a paper bag over his head.
   22. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:44 PM (#4212703)
Are you unfamiliar with this "Survivor" show?


Yes. I mean, I know it exists, but I can honestly say I've never watched a minute of it.
   23. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 02:50 PM (#4212714)
Barry Bonds? Or do black guys operate under a different set of rules since they look cool no matter what facial hair they grow?

I was thinking more mid to late 90's, since the early 90's were pretty much just an extension of the 80's. Did Barry still sport the 'stache in SF in the late 90's? I seem to remember it being more of a Pittsburgh thing.

Anyone else notice that the rise in offense in the mid 90's draws a direct parallel to the drop in mustaches? Coincidence? Hmmmm...

I wouldn't say the Unit "pulled it off". The only way he could pull it off was wearing a paper bag over his head.


When you're 7 feet tall and have the face of a giant rat, anything you try has got to be an improvement by default. Hence the mullet during the Seattle years...
   24. dr. scott Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:11 PM (#4212763)
I like his plan to stay undercover by giving quotes to the media. That will surely throw them off.


Pretty sure that filming is already over, given that the season is to air next month.


Yea, but I was confused by the tense in the article...

Like Whelchel, Kent is keeping his fingers crossed that his fellow players will be unaware of his athletic accomplishments.


I guess time is a weird thing in a reality show that has been filmed, but not yet aired. Do they do the interviews months ago, and sit on them until the show airs? I dont actually watch the shows, or read about them, so this may be obvious to most folks.
   25. PreservedFish Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:27 PM (#4212797)
I watched the very first season of Survivor religiously. By the time it ended, it was clear that the die had been cast regarding forming alliances and the like--every subsequent edition would be dramatically affected by players' knowledge of how the game had been played the first time--and I never watched it again.


I've only watched a few seasons of Survivor, but I was lucky to see the rise of Russell in one of them. He was a phenomenon. I'm pretty sure that he was in the minority tribe at the end when the two tribes merged - that is, he should have been eliminated methodically - but by guile and hard work (he was able to find every immunity idol almost immediately) he actually somehow eliminated the majority tribe, despite the fact that going into the merger everyone knew that he was by far the biggest threat. Sort of a Machiavellian genius.
   26. God Posted: August 20, 2012 at 03:50 PM (#4212832)
Barry had the stache for at least his first year in San Francisco.

Mattingly played until 1995.

Boggs.

Rod Beck and Robb Nen.
   27. zonk Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:04 PM (#4212859)
It's completely amazing to me how successful selling human suffering and sports bras has been as entertainment... on second thought, wait - no it's not.
   28. My name is Votto, and I love to get blotto Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:27 PM (#4212908)
Good Lord! Those are some large boobies in that photo.


Especially on that dude standing beside Jeff Kent.
   29. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:28 PM (#4212912)
Top mustached players of the 1990s in games played.

Rafael Palmeiro
Fred McGriff
Barry Bonds
Marquis Grissom
Ken Griffey
Brian McRae (beard)
Albert Belle
Ken Caminiti (goatee)
Joe Carter (beard)
Tony Phillips
Jeff Bagwell (beard)

Top pitchers

John Smoltz
Randy Johnson
David Wells
Doug Drabek
Ken Hill
Terry Mulholland (goatee)
Jack McDowell (goatee)
   30. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:36 PM (#4212931)
#29 - Full beards and goatee's don't count. I'm talking only about those daring enough to sport the stache and only the stache well after it had gone out of style.

Still a good list, though. I should've remembered many of those. And I think you were correct in #21, Royal, that black guys don't look nearly as goofy or pedo-ish with only the stache that white guys do, so they get a pass. Junior and Crime Dawg, for example, just looked so natural with it that I barely even noticed they had one.
   31. Booey Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:40 PM (#4212940)
Mattingly played until 1995.

Boggs.


Same as with Eck, 80's players who just didn't get with the program don't count. They grew it when it was cool; they just refused to acknowledge that times had changed until over a decade later. It's like the former high school big shot who still wears his high school letter jacket until he's 35.

And Mattingly's refusal to shave in the early 90's - sideburns or otherwise - has been well documented.
   32. dr. scott Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:42 PM (#4212942)
Technically Bagwell is a Goatee... in fact his goatee is the anti stache....

http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Jeff+Bagwell
   33. Misirlou is on hiding to nowhere Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:44 PM (#4212949)
Top pitchers

John Smoltz
Randy Johnson
David Wells
Doug Drabek
Ken Hill
Terry Mulholland (goatee)
Jack McDowell (goatee)


Again, Eck. No one did it better.

That photo is from 1992. If that's too early, Here's one from 1996 or 97
   34. Crispix reaches boiling point with lackluster play Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:48 PM (#4212957)
Every non-Yankee player of the last 20 years has had a goatee, soul patch or other facial hair except Craig Biggio, Cole Hamels and Ted Lilly. The moustache alone is what we're interested in here.
   35. The Yankee Clapper Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:56 PM (#4212976)
The other new players include two beauty pageant winners (Miss Delaware and a Miss Teen Utah), a seminary student, and a sex therapist

That seems like more of a ratings pitch than including Jeff Kent.
   36. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 20, 2012 at 04:58 PM (#4212981)
I'm looking for white guys, mustache only, among the top 200 players in games played from 2000-2012. Best I can come up with is Jason Giambi. Then Matt Stairs. Then Jeff Kent. There may be some I'm overlooking or some who temporarily had one ironically, but I can't find any others. I'm also having a much harder time thinking about what players from this era look like over guys from the 80s.

Its up to you Brian Tallet and Derek Holland.
   37. Swedish Chef Posted: August 20, 2012 at 05:03 PM (#4212986)
I'm looking for white guys, mustache only, among the top 200 players in games played from 2000-2012. Best I can come up with is Jason Giambi. Then Matt Stairs. Then Jeff Kent. There may be some I'm overlooking or some who temporarily had one ironically, but I can't find any others.

Randy Johnson?

EDIT: Ah, top players in games played is kinda hard on starters, or pitchers in general.
   38. UCCF Posted: August 20, 2012 at 06:33 PM (#4213112)
That seems like more of a ratings pitch than including Jeff Kent.

Beauty queens have started show up on a lot of network reality shows. The Amazing Race had a former Miss Teen whatever a couple of seasons back, plus the usual team pairs of cheerleaders, strippers, etc., show up pretty much every season. At least one of them went straight from the Amazing Race to Playboy.

You do have to assume it's a ratings stunt here. The odds that a 20-year-old beauty pageant contestant would make it through to the end of Survivor seem fairly remote. Even if she does perfectly well, on shows where the other contestants vote you out, it's almost never good to be the one who's "famous" before the show starts.
   39. willcarrolldoesnotsuk Posted: August 20, 2012 at 07:38 PM (#4213170)
Huh. A trip through Wikipedia reveals that Lisa Whelchel is apparently a super duper Christian, and has released an album of some truly... well let's just say she released an album of music.
   40. Dock Ellis on Acid Posted: August 20, 2012 at 08:36 PM (#4213235)
What about Carl Pavano's moustache? That thing was beautiful.
   41. Howie Menckel Posted: August 20, 2012 at 09:39 PM (#4213282)

"I watched the very first season of Survivor religiously.....-and I never watched it again."

Huh, me too.
I'm surprised it's still on, actually.

   42. Random Transaction Generator Posted: August 20, 2012 at 10:42 PM (#4213325)
I'm surprised it's still on, actually.

For the first 11 seasons, it was in the top 10 in the ratings (for the year).

It's been an easy money-maker for CBS and, until last season, pretty solid in the ratings (top 20, except for a couple of slumping seasons).

Last season, however, was a disaster in the ratings (29th or 30th) and I'm sure they'll be holding off on filming the next season until they see how the early numbers look on this one.
(Usually they are filming the next season during the later parts of the broadcast of the current season.)

Considering this is the 25th season of a show, I wouldn't be surprised if it finally dies out.
   43. Cooper Nielson Posted: August 20, 2012 at 11:20 PM (#4213349)
I'm looking for white guys, mustache only, among the top 200 players in games played from 2000-2012. Best I can come up with is Jason Giambi. Then Matt Stairs. Then Jeff Kent. There may be some I'm overlooking or some who temporarily had one ironically, but I can't find any others.

John Smoltz seems like the poster boy for the white guy with an unironic mustache who still doesn't look like a child molester.

I think there is some mid-Michigan corollary here (Smoltz is from Lansing). "Mustaches only" on non-ironic, non-pedophile white guys may be strange in most of country, but it's still very much a common/normal look in mid-Michigan for men in their 30s through 50s.

EDIT: Though I guess for much of his career, and perhaps all of the 2000s, Smoltz had a goatee/full beard too.
   44. charityslave is thinking about baseball Posted: August 21, 2012 at 12:41 AM (#4213391)
You take the good, you take the bad...
   45. Good cripple hitter Posted: August 21, 2012 at 01:06 AM (#4213397)
What about Carl Pavano's moustache? That thing was beautiful.


I have vague memories of Pavano's moustache, but that link doesn't work.

This discussion is incomplete without a mention of Travis Snider's attempt at growing facial hair. Do a google image search for it, I can't pick just one image of it, it was horrific.
   46. Poster Nutbag Posted: August 21, 2012 at 03:05 AM (#4213428)
Hasn't Zito rocked a 'stache lately (last few years)?
   47. Greg K Posted: August 21, 2012 at 05:03 AM (#4213435)
Is his plan to just lie to everyone about his identity? Does that work?

I'm like the fellows above, I watched the first two seasons, but haven't seen any since. I did hear that one a couple years ago had a guy who lied about who he was (he was very wealthy but presented himself as poor).
   48. Greg K Posted: August 21, 2012 at 05:04 AM (#4213436)
Considering this is the 25th season of a show, I wouldn't be surprised if it finally dies out.

Sweet Jesus, they obviously don't have one every year. It feels like I watched the first season about 6 or 7 years ago.

EDIT:On the whole I'm glad the show exists because (though I have zero evidence for this) I suspect it's popularity played some small role in getting "Lost" made.

And in other sci-fi/fantasy-Survivor connections. I recently started watching Battlestar Galactica finally and Richard Hatch the actor (not to be confused with Richard Hatch the 1st Survivor winner) has a role.
   49. AROM Posted: August 21, 2012 at 08:06 AM (#4213473)
I originally thought Lost was just another survivor type reality show. I didn't start watching until the second season, though I caught up quickly with the DVDs.
   50. Greg K Posted: August 21, 2012 at 08:47 AM (#4213494)
I originally thought Lost was just another survivor type reality show. I didn't start watching until the second season, though I caught up quickly with the DVDs.

I believe the first episode I saw was "Two For the Road". It probably would have been a lot better to start from the beginning.
   51. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 21, 2012 at 10:00 AM (#4213562)
No discussions of white guy mustaches can be complete with talking about Bobby Valentine.

I can't pick just one image of it, it was horrific.


That last one is a beard, not a mustache.

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