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Monday, August 20, 2012
From Proposition Ate to Proposition 8…who watches this ####?
A 1980s sitcom star and a major league baseball MVP will join 13 other new players — as well as three returning ones — when Survivor: Philippines premieres on CBS with a special 90-minute episode at 8 p.m. ET on Sept. 19.
...But Whelchel is not the only famous face that will be new to the island this year. Former National League Most Valuable Player Jeff Kent — another longtime fan — will also be playing for the million dollars. And he plans to bring that same fiery competitiveness he was known for in baseball to the island. “I’ve got a chip on my shoulder,” Kent said before the game began. “I hate to lose.” Like Whelchel, Kent is keeping his fingers crossed that his fellow players will be unaware of his athletic accomplishments. “You know, there are not many tall white guys with mustaches walking around still these days. I’m hoping my reputation’s not big enough that these people know who I am.”
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Posted: August 20, 2012 at 12:28 PM | 51 comment(s)
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1. UCCF Posted: August 20, 2012 at 12:49 PM (#4212537)You've never been to Williamsburg, have you?
If he does win, it will be because a much more talented player on his own team is overlooked by the judges.
Sure there are. They're the guys that drive around in ice cream trucks with tinted windows and watch kids at the park wearing sunglasses and trenchcoats.
OK, in the Philippines it is, average male height there is 5'4".
If his plan really is to hide his identity, then shave your stupid moustache you big stupid dummy.
Sure there are. They're the guys that drive around in ice cream trucks with tinted windows and watch kids at the park wearing sunglasses and trenchcoats.
You don't see too many kids wearing sunglasses and trenchcoats, either.
Ned Flanders - he still has a mustache.
Kent would've fit in better had he played in the '70's or '80's, when everyone and their brother was rockin' the 'stache. How many other big names from the '90's pulled it off? Unit...Piazza...Palmeiro... anyone else?
I shaved my goatee on a bet and sported the 'stache for just a single day earlier this year and was called Chester the Molester by all my co-workers. But I won the bet...
Pretty sure that filming is already over, given that the season is to air next month.
Eck.
Did Kent really "pull it off"? I think his mustache was just ... there.
Or did you...
I didn't know Kent got a boob job.
Doesn't count. He already had it in the 70's and 80's and just refused to let it go.
From the fun they seemed to have with it, I guess the whole office won. But it remains to be seen whether the free lunch I won was worth my name and pic probably ending up on the sex offender registry...
Are you unfamiliar with this "Survivor" show? Big boobs= better ratings. By the standards of Survivor seasons past, the bossom crop this year is about average. There have been bigger seasons in that regard.
Some former NFL QB from the 80s - I believe Gary Hageboom - went unrecognized on the show except by one girl who worked as a sportscaster.
I doubt Jeff Kent has really infiltrated the public consciousness enough to get recognized. Besides, everyone will be like "hey, there's Tootie from Facts of Life!"*
*-I know, its Blair.
Barry Bonds? Or do black guys operate under a different set of rules since they look cool no matter what facial hair they grow?
I wouldn't say the Unit "pulled it off". The only way he could pull it off was wearing a paper bag over his head.
Yes. I mean, I know it exists, but I can honestly say I've never watched a minute of it.
I was thinking more mid to late 90's, since the early 90's were pretty much just an extension of the 80's. Did Barry still sport the 'stache in SF in the late 90's? I seem to remember it being more of a Pittsburgh thing.
Anyone else notice that the rise in offense in the mid 90's draws a direct parallel to the drop in mustaches? Coincidence? Hmmmm...
When you're 7 feet tall and have the face of a giant rat, anything you try has got to be an improvement by default. Hence the mullet during the Seattle years...
Yea, but I was confused by the tense in the article...
I guess time is a weird thing in a reality show that has been filmed, but not yet aired. Do they do the interviews months ago, and sit on them until the show airs? I dont actually watch the shows, or read about them, so this may be obvious to most folks.
I've only watched a few seasons of Survivor, but I was lucky to see the rise of Russell in one of them. He was a phenomenon. I'm pretty sure that he was in the minority tribe at the end when the two tribes merged - that is, he should have been eliminated methodically - but by guile and hard work (he was able to find every immunity idol almost immediately) he actually somehow eliminated the majority tribe, despite the fact that going into the merger everyone knew that he was by far the biggest threat. Sort of a Machiavellian genius.
Mattingly played until 1995.
Boggs.
Rod Beck and Robb Nen.
Especially on that dude standing beside Jeff Kent.
Rafael Palmeiro
Fred McGriff
Barry Bonds
Marquis Grissom
Ken Griffey
Brian McRae (beard)
Albert Belle
Ken Caminiti (goatee)
Joe Carter (beard)
Tony Phillips
Jeff Bagwell (beard)
Top pitchers
John Smoltz
Randy Johnson
David Wells
Doug Drabek
Ken Hill
Terry Mulholland (goatee)
Jack McDowell (goatee)
Still a good list, though. I should've remembered many of those. And I think you were correct in #21, Royal, that black guys don't look nearly as goofy or pedo-ish with only the stache that white guys do, so they get a pass. Junior and Crime Dawg, for example, just looked so natural with it that I barely even noticed they had one.
Same as with Eck, 80's players who just didn't get with the program don't count. They grew it when it was cool; they just refused to acknowledge that times had changed until over a decade later. It's like the former high school big shot who still wears his high school letter jacket until he's 35.
And Mattingly's refusal to shave in the early 90's - sideburns or otherwise - has been well documented.
http://www.zimbio.com/photos/Jeff+Bagwell
Again, Eck. No one did it better.
That photo is from 1992. If that's too early, Here's one from 1996 or 97
That seems like more of a ratings pitch than including Jeff Kent.
Its up to you Brian Tallet and Derek Holland.
Randy Johnson?
EDIT: Ah, top players in games played is kinda hard on starters, or pitchers in general.
Beauty queens have started show up on a lot of network reality shows. The Amazing Race had a former Miss Teen whatever a couple of seasons back, plus the usual team pairs of cheerleaders, strippers, etc., show up pretty much every season. At least one of them went straight from the Amazing Race to Playboy.
You do have to assume it's a ratings stunt here. The odds that a 20-year-old beauty pageant contestant would make it through to the end of Survivor seem fairly remote. Even if she does perfectly well, on shows where the other contestants vote you out, it's almost never good to be the one who's "famous" before the show starts.
"I watched the very first season of Survivor religiously.....-and I never watched it again."
Huh, me too.
I'm surprised it's still on, actually.
For the first 11 seasons, it was in the top 10 in the ratings (for the year).
It's been an easy money-maker for CBS and, until last season, pretty solid in the ratings (top 20, except for a couple of slumping seasons).
Last season, however, was a disaster in the ratings (29th or 30th) and I'm sure they'll be holding off on filming the next season until they see how the early numbers look on this one.
(Usually they are filming the next season during the later parts of the broadcast of the current season.)
Considering this is the 25th season of a show, I wouldn't be surprised if it finally dies out.
John Smoltz seems like the poster boy for the white guy with an unironic mustache who still doesn't look like a child molester.
I think there is some mid-Michigan corollary here (Smoltz is from Lansing). "Mustaches only" on non-ironic, non-pedophile white guys may be strange in most of country, but it's still very much a common/normal look in mid-Michigan for men in their 30s through 50s.
EDIT: Though I guess for much of his career, and perhaps all of the 2000s, Smoltz had a goatee/full beard too.
I have vague memories of Pavano's moustache, but that link doesn't work.
This discussion is incomplete without a mention of Travis Snider's attempt at growing facial hair. Do a google image search for it, I can't pick just one image of it, it was horrific.
I'm like the fellows above, I watched the first two seasons, but haven't seen any since. I did hear that one a couple years ago had a guy who lied about who he was (he was very wealthy but presented himself as poor).
Sweet Jesus, they obviously don't have one every year. It feels like I watched the first season about 6 or 7 years ago.
EDIT:On the whole I'm glad the show exists because (though I have zero evidence for this) I suspect it's popularity played some small role in getting "Lost" made.
And in other sci-fi/fantasy-Survivor connections. I recently started watching Battlestar Galactica finally and Richard Hatch the actor (not to be confused with Richard Hatch the 1st Survivor winner) has a role.
I believe the first episode I saw was "Two For the Road". It probably would have been a lot better to start from the beginning.
That last one is a beard, not a mustache.
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