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Sunday, September 10, 2017

Svrluga-No Joke, The Nationals Have Evolved Into One Of Baseball’s Best Franchises

His Most Reverend Barry puts the Nationals’ journey into perspective. A good read.

Stephen Strasburg was first out of the clubhouse and up the dugout steps, and Bryce Harper was right behind him, and that’s just the perfect introduction to the 2017 National League East champions – the two players who best represent the transformation from irrelevant, 100-loss jokes into what the Washington Nationals are now, which is a contender for best franchise in baseball.

Bote Man Posted: September 10, 2017 at 10:07 PM | 20 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: history, nationals, nl east

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   1. OsunaSakata Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:31 AM (#5529510)
I think this year will be the best of the careers of Michael Taylor and Wilmer Difo. Trade them in the coming off-season or groom them to be back-ups. I still like their defense. Difo will probably get back more.
   2. Bote Man Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:12 AM (#5529522)
What has impressed me the most about this version of the Nationals is that even their scrubs and bench players have filled in admirably while the regulars were on the DL. At different times they lost Adam Eaton (Michael A. Taylor), Trea Turner (Wilmer Difo), Jayson Werth (Lind, Goodwin), Bryce Harper (Goodwin, Difo) and still kept on winning games. A lot of that can be credited to their starting pitching, particularly Gio Gonzalez who is having a stellar year.

Once Mike Rizzo shored up the shaky bullpen the Nationals became a formidable team. I actually think they have a prayer to make it past the NLDS this year. #NoJinx
   3. Leroy Kincaid Posted: September 11, 2017 at 04:34 PM (#5529862)
I was surprised that Difo is an actual name. Thought it was just another stupid nickname, like for David Foster or something.
   4. Sunday silence Posted: September 11, 2017 at 05:33 PM (#5529875)
but Defoe is not an unusual name. There's a william Dafoe (sp?) that is an actor and Daniel Defoe was an author. That they are spelled differently doesnt seem to be a big deal, hundred years ago people often spelled their names differently at different times.
   5. Walt Davis Posted: September 11, 2017 at 05:51 PM (#5529883)
#2: Somewhat similar to the 2012 Nats who also got surprisingly good bench performances and solid bullpen work.
   6. Never Give an Inge (Dave) Posted: September 11, 2017 at 05:59 PM (#5529885)

I was just reading the Wikipedia page on Wilmer Difo and he may be my new favorite non-Mets player.

During the 2017 season, Difo attracted some media attention for his choice of walk-up music, as he frequently had romantic ballads like "Unchained Melody" and "My Girl" added to his rotation. Although some of Difo's teammates told The Washington Post they assumed someone was playing a joke on the young infielder, Difo explained to the paper, "I love those songs."[15]
Difo chose to go by the nickname El Lindo, Spanish for "the beautiful one", for MLB Players' Weekend in 2017. The nickname was reportedly given to him by Nationals teammate Adam Lind.
   7. Nasty Nate Posted: September 11, 2017 at 06:12 PM (#5529889)
Selfless to not try to claim it for himself.
   8. Leroy Kincaid Posted: September 11, 2017 at 08:57 PM (#5529947)
but Defoe is not an unusual name. There's a william Dafoe (sp?) that is an actor and Daniel Defoe was an author. That they are spelled differently doesnt seem to be a big deal, hundred years ago people often spelled their names differently at different times.


I'm going by how the Nationals radio guys pronounce it: "Dee-Foe". I always thought the writer and actor were "Duh-Foe".
   9. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:04 PM (#5529950)
Just to clear up any confusion, no one ever called Willem Dafoe El Lindo.

   10. Greg K Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:11 PM (#5529953)
There's also Byron Dafoe, the best hockey goalie named after two writers ever to come out of England.
   11. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: September 11, 2017 at 09:17 PM (#5529956)
I'm rarely right, so when I am I like to dwell on it. Going into 2016, I said I thought the Nats were in good shape, in part because they still had the core that had us all excited in 2014 before they flopped. Though of course they've made moves sand since then, I think that evaluation was basically correct. Washington has been part of the NL's elite for a while.
   12. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: September 11, 2017 at 10:50 PM (#5529980)
11 comments and nobody has mentioned that they've still never won a playoff series
   13. Esoteric Posted: September 11, 2017 at 11:03 PM (#5529983)
Believe me, it's on all of our minds as Nationals fans.
   14. Walt Davis Posted: September 12, 2017 at 12:44 AM (#5529999)
11 comments and nobody has mentioned that they've still never won a playoff series

#2 implies it.

Washington has been part of the NL's elite for a while.

Yep, 6th straight winning season, 4th trip to playoffs, 4th division title and not worse than 2nd in the division over those 6 years. Total of 139 games over 500. As winners of the Harper/Strasburg sweepstakes, they're another argument for tanking it, maybe especially if you can then float a sizable payroll (a la the Cubs). And all of the important pieces are back next year before things start to fall apart (Gio, Harper, Murphy) but maybe Eaton returns to form to help ease some of that pain. As noted, Taylor's done pretty well but it will be an even scarier team with a healthy Eaton next year (unless Zimmerman goes belly-up again).
   15. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 12, 2017 at 03:21 AM (#5530011)
Give Dusty some love.
   16. Dog on the sidewalk Posted: September 12, 2017 at 03:35 AM (#5530012)
No.
   17. Heart of Matt Harvey Posted: September 12, 2017 at 05:24 AM (#5530018)
He'll get it if the Nats win the Series. But not before.
   18. TomH Posted: September 12, 2017 at 07:52 AM (#5530025)
He'll get even if the Nationals MAKE the Series.

The cards might be falling for them this time; nice first-round matchup, and maybe the Dahdgers aren't as invincible as they first seemed. Gio G has some kinda magic pixie dust keeping his ERA in top-3 territory. If they are reasonably healthy in Oct, it's a club that has 108-win talent.
   19. Zonk Tormundbane Posted: September 12, 2017 at 09:37 AM (#5530058)
A title makes lots of bad memories fade, so I have no problem commending Dusty... and I likewise hope he squeezes in a couple more years and puts himself in HoF territory (if he hasn't already... the only manager ahead him on the win list NOT in the HoF is Gene Mauch, and he ought to pass Gene - and Casey Stengel - next year).

Dusty is a fine manager for a good, veteran team... it's just that when it comes crashing down, it's gonna crash down in the ugliest way possible. But enjoy the ride while it's a ride. I still have fond memories of MOST of 2003 and can even still remember the anticipation for 2004 after the Marlins debacle.

A title hasn't made me so magnanimous that I wouldn't like to see a repeat, but if not the Cubs (and not the Indians), I'd probably take the Nats as the 3rd rooting consolation prize.
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: September 12, 2017 at 10:51 AM (#5530096)

Dusty is a fine manager for a good, veteran team... it's just that when it comes crashing down, it's gonna crash down in the ugliest way possible.


That really only happened once. His last Giants team played in the World Series, and his last Reds team was a playoff team.

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