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1. Barry`s_Lazy_Boy Posted: August 21, 2012 at 03:07 PM (#4213977)Also, the Werth contract was nuts.
Swisher may invoke $126M Werth deal in contract talks; how crazy is it?
My reaction was more like, "How stupid is that?" In arguing for big contract, player reminds owners of recent horrendous big contract. Next you're going to tell me that Zach Greinke is invoking the Barry Zito deal in his contract negotiations.
I can see Toronto doing this. I also wonder if the Pirates feel its time to open up the checkbook finally, but probably not for $120 million.
Can you imagine your favorite team being notoriously absent in the big ticket free agent market for DECADES and when they finally (finally!) decide to change that, they back up the money truck to a Nick Swisher's lawn?
Toronto ownership is cheap, and has repeatedly talked about the need for expenses to be in line with revenues. There is no way they would offer anything approaching that amount of money to Swisher.
Nah, Toronto's MO for free agents is there'll stories that Toronto interested in signing Swisher, then they'll be stories that Toronto is the favourite to sign Swisher, then some other team will sign him and there'll be stories that Toronto missed him by that much. Then there'll be quieter stories in non-Toronto markets that Toronto didn't offer him any contract, or they did but it was 2/10 or something like that.
(edit: beaten by Ryan, but there also really isn't that much of an obvious need for Swisher in Toronto.)
Could be worse. Could be Gil Meche.
I think Nick Swisher has future San Francisco Giant written all over him now that they probably won't re-sign Melky.
Wasn't this a fun offseason? It seemed like we just missed on every big free agent out there. Or at least that's what all the Rogers Communications outlets were saying.
This is a good call. I hadn't really thought of that but I wouldn't be surprised at all to see this happen.
Interestingly, he'd actually be a terrific fit for LF for the Red Sox if they weren't already committed to Crawford.
I'm not excpecting it but, y'know, the Werth deal was insane and the Crawford deal was insane and the Carlos Lee deal was insane and the Soriano deal was whatever comes after insanity and Tex is making gazillions while not out-hitting Swisher and that old Konerko deal was insane and the Wells deal was double nutso and the Bay deal was none too bright and the Helton deal leaves one or two things to be desired. We shouldnt' be shocked if some team talks themselves into 6/$100 for Swisher (the Lee deal).
By the way, is my memory off or have the revamped defensive stats at b-r been a huge boon to Teixeira? I seem to recall him "not deserving" gold gloves and such. He's at +88 career, +15 this year -- granted they have him as just +2 in his first NYY GG year so maybe things are the same.
After the Votto extension, who knows what the Reds are willing to pay. I agree that Swisher would make some sense, but they're much more likely to bring back Ryan Ludwick or decide to put Frazier there full-time.
You know it's a bad deal when you performed as well as they could've hoped and you were still massively overpaid.
Swisher have also been noted to being quite healthy though, he's never had any serious injury trouble... then again, Crawford WAS pretty healthy too
For sure ... I was arguing that we shouldn't be that surprised if it happens. If your neighbor howls at full moons, you shouldn't be surprised when he howls at the next full moon.
By the way, take Konerko out of the list. I thought that deal had been 5/75 but it was only 5/60 -- possibly a mild overpay based on his performance to that point but not insane (and it workd out amazingly well).
"How does 3/$45 sound?"
"We were thinking 7/$126."
"No, I don't think we can go past 3/$45 ... maybe another $15 M option with a $3 M buyout?"
"We can't go below 6/$105."
"Oh well, nice talking to you."
"Stop right there, I hereby invoke my rights under the Jayson Werth contract!"
"Damn, he's got us now."
Soriano is up to $121 mil (with $36 more guaranteed over the next 2 years), and is at 23.6. Take out his pre-arb years, and it's $119 mil for 14.7 WAR. Round it up to 15, assuming he gets another .3 this year.
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