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Tuesday, September 25, 2018

Taking Back the Ballparks - Dodgers voting thread

This one’s simple enough. The existing name, or it’s long-time alt handle.

A) Chavez Ravine
B) Dodger Stadium

Next up: The new name grates.

SoSH U at work Posted: September 25, 2018 at 11:35 AM | 29 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: September 25, 2018 at 11:42 AM (#5751335)
Chavez Ravine is mellifluous and evocative.

Dodger Stadium is acceptable, but unimaginative.

A.
   2. Ziggy is done with Dominican discotheques Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:29 PM (#5751387)
Chavez Ravine
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:32 PM (#5751393)
Dodger Stadium
   4. JJ1986 Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:35 PM (#5751397)
Chavez Ravine
   5. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: September 25, 2018 at 12:45 PM (#5751412)
less filling
   6. Greg Pope Posted: September 25, 2018 at 01:01 PM (#5751455)
This is a tough one. How long do we get?
   7. SoSH U at work Posted: September 25, 2018 at 01:04 PM (#5751462)

This is a tough one. How long do we get?


At least a week and whatever point A has one more vote than B.

   8. Rusty Priske Posted: September 25, 2018 at 03:22 PM (#5751695)
A - Chavez Ravine
   9. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: September 25, 2018 at 03:54 PM (#5751740)
Chavez Ravine
   10. puck Posted: September 25, 2018 at 05:01 PM (#5751799)
Dodger Stadium.
   11. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 25, 2018 at 06:19 PM (#5751857)
Dodger Stadium
   12. phredbird Posted: September 25, 2018 at 08:34 PM (#5751960)

Chavez Ravine is a bit hard to endorse based on the history of the land grab that the O'Malleys perpetrated on a hispanic community that once occupied that part of town. Lots of Latinos still remember what went down, but I can't say for sure what the feeling is these days.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Chavez_Ravine

not taking a stance, just pointing it out.
   13. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 25, 2018 at 08:44 PM (#5751969)
Dodger Stadium. Chavez Ravine is a non-starter, given the history that phredbird noted above. This wouldn't be like calling the Orioles park Camden Yards.
   14. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: September 25, 2018 at 11:27 PM (#5752083)
Chavez Ravine
   15. QLE Posted: September 26, 2018 at 12:10 AM (#5752096)
Chavez Ravine.

As for #12, I'd make the argument that calling it that serves as a reminder for what happened, while calling it "Dodger Stadium" would be the erasure- I freely admit, though, that this may not be the consensual argument.
   16. Rusty Priske Posted: September 26, 2018 at 08:25 AM (#5752140)
#15 is my thought exactly.
   17. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 26, 2018 at 08:31 AM (#5752144)

As for #12, I'd make the argument that calling it that serves as a reminder for what happened, while calling it "Dodger Stadium" would be the erasure- I freely admit, though, that this may not be the consensual argument.

In a perfect world, I'd agree, but this is 2018 and subtleties can be lost. Not to mention that naming it after the destroyed section of town would do nothing for the remaining displaced people but remind them of their displacement.

Besides which, it's been Dodger Stadium for 56 years and nobody's seriously taken issue with it. Leave well enough alone.
   18. RickA. Posted: September 26, 2018 at 05:04 PM (#5752704)
Dodger Stadium
   19. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 26, 2018 at 05:10 PM (#5752709)
Chavez Ravine.

I have not heard a convincing argument that either name inflames or mollifies the people involved in any long ago harm done, and it just plain sounds better.
   20. mx Posted: September 26, 2018 at 06:42 PM (#5752799)
Dodger Stadium
   21. Perry Posted: September 27, 2018 at 11:14 AM (#5753188)
While noting #17, I come down on the side of #15. Keep Chavez Ravine, and its history, in front of people. Although I'm neither Latino nor from LA, so I could be way off base.
   22. Nasty Nate Posted: September 27, 2018 at 02:09 PM (#5753475)
I hate changing a stadium name that has never been changed before, and is in relatively little danger of being otherwise changed in the near future.
   23. ajnrules Posted: September 27, 2018 at 05:22 PM (#5753819)
If Baltimore can have Oriole Park at Camden Yards, I can't see how Dodgers can't have Dodger Stadium at Chavez Ravine. I vote A+B.
   24. Chris Fluit Posted: September 27, 2018 at 07:11 PM (#5753931)
Chavez Ravine
   25. Greg Pope Posted: September 27, 2018 at 07:16 PM (#5753937)
Dodger Stadium
   26. SoSH U at work Posted: October 04, 2018 at 11:03 AM (#5760135)
We'll wrap this up tomorrow. We'll hold off on starting the next club until after the postseason.

   27. Rusty Priske Posted: October 15, 2018 at 11:01 AM (#5766694)
Wrapping this up?
   28. Nasty Nate Posted: October 19, 2018 at 11:13 AM (#5771061)
   29. SoSH U at work Posted: October 19, 2018 at 11:43 AM (#5771093)
Interesting Nate. I left a comment.

As mentioned in the other thread, Chavez Ravine edged out Dodger Stadium.

We'll resume the series with the White Sox after the World Series.

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