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Monday, September 18, 2017

Taking Back the Ballparks - Nationals voting thread

We’re down to five selections for the Nationals’ park. The key question is whether one emerges from the pack to challenge the only name the place has ever known, Nationals Park. Nats fans, I’m sure, would be happy to call it anything if it meant getting out of the upcoming first round of the National League playoffs.

Choose One:

A) Anacostia Park
B) Capitol Street Grounds
C) Nationals Park
D) Navy Yards
E) Potomac Park

Edit: Winner (C) Nationals Park

SoSH U at work Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:15 AM | 50 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:36 AM (#5533643)
Voting is now open.
   2. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:40 AM (#5533646)
Capitol Street Grounds
   3. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:48 AM (#5533650)
Anacostia Park
   4. Lassus Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:14 AM (#5533664)
Write-in: OTP Park
   5. PreservedFish Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:17 AM (#5533666)
Nationals Park.
   6. BDC Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:17 AM (#5533667)
I guess I'll go for Anacostia. I hate not voting on things. There seems no great option, but Anacostia is at least resonant.
   7. Lassus Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:22 AM (#5533672)
Actual vote: Potomac Park
   8. Nasty Nate Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:27 AM (#5533675)
Nationals Park
   9. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:46 AM (#5533680)
Nationals Park.

"Anacostia Park" is the silliest, as it wouldn't even be in Anacostia. You might as well call it "Foggy Bottom Field" or "Shaw Stadium".
   10. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:49 AM (#5533683)
"Anacostia Park" is the silliest, as it wouldn't even be in Anacostia. You might as well call it "Foggy Bottom Field" or "Shaw Stadium".


It is right on the Anacostia River. It is not in the Anacostia neighborhood, but so what?
   11. Swoboda is freedom Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:08 PM (#5533690)
It is right on the Anacostia River. It is not in the Anacostia neighborhood, but so what?

Then I vote for Anaconda. The logo could either be the Nicki Manaj album cover or the bad movie with J. Lo and Ice Cube. Nickname- Big Booty Park.
   12. Greg Pope Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:08 PM (#5533691)
Since I don't actually like any of them, I'm going with Nationals Park. Reluctantly.
   13. Bourbon Samurai is disturbed by bagel developments Posted: September 18, 2017 at 12:09 PM (#5533692)
It is right on the Anacostia River. It is not in the Anacostia neighborhood, but so what?


Because no one in D.C. would ever associate the park with Anacostia because it's not in the Anacostia neighborhood.

I vote for Nationals Park.
   14. JJ1986 Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:33 PM (#5533795)
I like Capitol Street Grounds.
   15. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 18, 2017 at 02:48 PM (#5533807)
This thread isn't appearing in the Newsstand or under the "stadium names" tag; it is, however, on the front page, which I never otherwise go to, but checked out of curiosity.

B) Capitol Street Grounds
   16. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:05 PM (#5533820)
Capitol Street Grounds
   17. QLE Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:55 PM (#5533853)
B) Capitol Street Grounds
   18. Omineca Greg Posted: September 18, 2017 at 03:58 PM (#5533856)
C)
   19. NTP Nate Posted: September 18, 2017 at 04:07 PM (#5533859)
Nationals Park.
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:36 PM (#5533908)
"Anacostia Park" is the silliest, as it wouldn't even be in Anacostia. You might as well call it "Foggy Bottom Field" or "Shaw Stadium".

It is right on the Anacostia River. It is not in the Anacostia neighborhood, but so what?

Because no one in D.C. would ever associate the park with Anacostia because it's not in the Anacostia neighborhood.

Exactly. 99.99999999999% of Washingtonians who hear or see "Anacostia" think of the neighborhood that's east of the river, not the river itself.
   21. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:40 PM (#5533910)
B) Capitol Street Grounds

Given that there's a North Capitol Street, an East Capitol Street, and a South Capitol Street, that'd be just as mindless to Washingtonians as "Anacostia Park".
   22. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 18, 2017 at 05:45 PM (#5533915)
Oh, god. Go #### yourself.
   23. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 06:02 PM (#5533927)
Oh, g God. Go #### yourself.

FIFY. And obviously you seldom have contact with any actual Washingtonians.
   24. Bote Man Posted: September 18, 2017 at 09:49 PM (#5534080)
Nationals Park.

Aint broke, don't fix it.

I think he pinned the discussion thread, not this voting thread.
   25. Baldrick Posted: September 18, 2017 at 10:58 PM (#5534126)
They're all fine. But I'm most enthusiastic about Capitol Street Grounds.
   26. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:10 PM (#5534130)
This is a really solid ground. One issue: if locals really don't think a place outside the Anacostia neighborhood should be called Anacostia Park .... that's a really good reason to NOT name it that. Being out-of-town-stupid is something to avoid.

I'm torn between Capital Street Grounds an Nationals Park.

But, for now, I'll go CSG. Just like the ring of choice.

My vote is for Choice B.
   27. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: September 18, 2017 at 11:40 PM (#5534138)
FIFY. And obviously you seldom have contact with any actual Washingtonians.

One, you didn't fix anything. Two, the purpose of a stadium's name is not to broadcast to provincial dimwits its exact geographic location within their sphere. Three, this is the voting thread, not the insipid-complaint-whose-proper-place-was-the-discussion-thread thread, so I reiterate my entreaty.
   28. stevegamer Posted: September 19, 2017 at 12:36 AM (#5534153)
Nationals Park.

Ain't broke, don't fix it.


I think that's my vote as well. It's not corporate, it is clear, and it's in use.

I like referencing the Anacostia River, but if locals don't think the entirety of the riverbanks area is a neighborhood named that, I can see why that's not good.

Given that there's a North Capitol Street, an East Capitol Street, and a South Capitol Street, that'd be just as mindless to Washingtonians as "Anacostia Park".


Capitol Street is unequivocally right there, so the takeaway from your comments) are that Washingtonians are mindless?

If I was naming it brand new today, I'd probably go with the Capitol Street Grounds of the options.
   29. Rusty Priske Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:12 AM (#5534219)
I'm torn between Capital Street Grounds an Nationals Park.

But, for now, I'll go CSG. Just like the ring of choice.


Be aware that it is CapitOl SG you vote fro, not CapitAl SG.

(I cannot stand the word Capitol.)


VOTE: Nationals Park
   30. DCA Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:29 AM (#5534224)
that'd be just as mindless to Washingtonians as "Anacostia Park"

Anacostia Park is already a thing. It's a miles-long greenway along the south side of the river with playing fields, picnic areas, recreation facilities, and more. Thousands of users every weekend. Probably more popular than the ballpark.
   31. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:43 AM (#5534235)
Given that there's a North Capitol Street, an East Capitol Street, and a South Capitol Street, that'd be just as mindless to Washingtonians as "Anacostia Park".

Capitol Street is unequivocally right there, so the takeaway from your comments) are that Washingtonians are mindless?


That's South Capitol Street, not Capitol Street, that runs alongside the ballpark. There's no "Capitol Street" anywhere in the District of Columbia.

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that'd be just as mindless to Washingtonians as "Anacostia Park"

Anacostia Park is already a thing. It's a miles-long greenway along the south side of the river with playing fields, picnic areas, recreation facilities, and more. Thousands of users every weekend. Probably more popular than the ballpark.


Yes, but what I meant was that it would be silly to name a ballpark after a neighborhood that it wasn't located in. Or after a street that doesn't even exist.
   32. RickA. Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:49 AM (#5534239)
Capitol Street Grounds
   33. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 09:56 AM (#5534243)
FIFY. And obviously you seldom have contact with any actual Washingtonians.

One, you didn't fix anything. Two, the purpose of a stadium's name is not to broadcast to provincial dimwits its exact geographic location within their sphere. Three, this is the voting thread, not the insipid-complaint-whose-proper-place-was-the-discussion-thread thread, so I reiterate my entreaty.


Well, I guess since Washingtonians don't have a vote in Congress, I guess there's nothing particularly strange about having people who've never lived there and know nothing about the area determine the name of its ballpark. So proceed with your geographical illiteracy.
   34. JJ1986 Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:01 AM (#5534247)
I guess there's nothing particularly strange about having people who've never lived there and know nothing about the area determine the name of its ballpark
The point of this exercise isn't for only locals to pick the names.
   35. SoSH U at work Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:38 AM (#5534276)
FWIW, I invited locals to participate in the first three, reaching out to some Giants, Rangers, Pads blogs and other places. I got no response, so I stopped.

I guess there's nothing particularly strange about having people who've never lived there and know nothing about the area determine the name of its ballpark.


You were welcome to contribute more during the nominating thread, but you didn't make any of these objections or offer much in the way of suggestions then.

   36. Mellow Mouse, Benevolent Space Tyrant Posted: September 19, 2017 at 10:45 AM (#5534285)
Yes, but what I meant was that it would be silly to name a ballpark after a neighborhood that it wasn't located in. Or after a street that doesn't even exist.


So I guess there is a rule that you can't name any park after a geographic feature (like, for example a river), but it MUST be about neighborhoods. For reasons. If only someone had posted this rule earlier.

Well, I guess since Washingtonians don't have a vote in Congress, I guess there's nothing particularly strange about having people who've never lived there and know nothing about the area determine the name of its ballpark. So proceed with your geographical illiteracy.


Nice whine dude. I think you are missing out on the spirit of the exercise. Fortunately in reality the real stadium name is chosen by the infinitely better method of "You pay your money and we name it whatever you want."
   37. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 11:19 AM (#5534327)
Nice whine dude. I think you are missing out on the spirit of the exercise. Fortunately in reality the real stadium name is chosen by the infinitely better method of "You pay your money and we name it whatever you want."

Look, I love the spirit of the exercise, and I began whining about the corporate seizure of ball park names from practically the first minute that Candlestick was remained "3Com Park", and that was over 20 years ago. The only way I'd favor corporate names for ballparks would be if the corporation paid for the whole goddam park from start to finish, not just for the chump change involved in "naming rights". "Taxpayer Park" would actually be the most appropriate name for many of these stadiums.

And yes, I should've participated more in the discussion thread. But be that as it may, I don't see what the problem is in requiring a bit of geographical literacy in coming up with a new name. If that makes me a party pooper, so be it, but Nationals Park is clearly the best choice of all of the 5 named above.
   38. DCA Posted: September 19, 2017 at 01:53 PM (#5534487)
Actual vote: Nationals Park
   39. TDF, FCL Posted: September 19, 2017 at 02:01 PM (#5534495)
Nationals Park, but only because Otherwise OK Park didn't make the cut.
   40. Bourbon Samurai is disturbed by bagel developments Posted: September 19, 2017 at 02:14 PM (#5534509)

So I guess there is a rule that you can't name any park after a geographic feature (like, for example a river), but it MUST be about neighborhoods. For reasons. If only someone had posted this rule earlier.


Well, I think it might be a good rule to pick a name that doesn't sound like it was picked by a bunch of goons who've never been to the city in question. Suggesting it be called Anacostia Park would get you laughed out of the room at any gathering of DC folks.

While I agree with Andy that no one refers to South Capitol Street as Capitol Street, I don't think that one is as bad.
   41. NTP Nate Posted: September 19, 2017 at 02:53 PM (#5534535)
As has been noted, Anacostia Park is the name of a very large NPS-operated park that already exists on the opposite side of the river from the stadium. That alone ought to be a good reason to select another option. If you must have a geographic anchor, Navy Yards is the choice for you.
   42. villageidiom Posted: September 19, 2017 at 07:33 PM (#5534726)
I prefer park names that are (a) not functioning as corporate billboards, (b) not named for the team that plays there, and (c) make local reference, either of local geographical features, local neighborhood, nicknames of local people, local industries, or the like.

So while Nationals Park is a decent choice, it fails my criteria. I'll go with Capitol Street Grounds.
   43. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: September 19, 2017 at 08:12 PM (#5534738)
So I guess there is a rule that you can't name any park after a geographic feature (like, for example a river), but it MUST be about neighborhoods. For reasons. If only someone had posted this rule earlier.

I don't think there should be a rule that you have to name a park after a neighborhood, but if you do name it after the neighborhood, you should at least name it after the neighborhood it's located in. Same thing about streets; South Capitol Street Grounds would be a bit long, but at least Washingtonians wouldn't scratch their heads and wonder how in the hell they ever came up with the name.

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As has been noted, Anacostia Park is the name of a very large NPS-operated park that already exists on the opposite side of the river from the stadium. That alone ought to be a good reason to select another option. If you must have a geographic anchor, Navy Yards is the choice for you.

That would have the added advantage of being the name of the nearest Metro station.

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I prefer park names that are (a) not functioning as corporate billboards, (b) not named for the team that plays there, and (c) make local reference, either of local geographical features, local neighborhood, nicknames of local people, local industries, or the like.

Naming the park after Walter Johnson or Josh Gibson would've be perfectly fine. Probably not Marion Barry, though.
   44. SoSH U at work Posted: September 24, 2017 at 08:03 PM (#5537810)
Reminder: voting ends tomorrow.

B) Capitol Street Grounds.
   45. Where have you gone Brady Anderson? Posted: September 25, 2017 at 06:02 AM (#5537902)
Anything but boring, bland Nationals Park. I guess my actual vote is for

B: (South) Capital Street Grounds
   46. SoSH U at work Posted: September 25, 2017 at 10:33 AM (#5538035)
Voting has expired. In the tightest race yet, the electorate has voted against Hope and Change, opting to keep the status quo. It's Nationals Park in a 12-11 decision over Capitol Street Grounds.

Nominations for our next ballpark in the queue will begin shortly.
   47. Nasty Nate Posted: September 25, 2017 at 10:37 AM (#5538045)
As someone who finds frequent name changes more annoying than corporate names, I applaud the electorate!
   48. Greg Pope Posted: September 25, 2017 at 10:40 AM (#5538052)
What happens if it's a tie? Run off with just the tied names? Keep voting open longer and hope someone weighs in?
   49. SoSH U at work Posted: September 25, 2017 at 10:41 AM (#5538058)
What happens if it's a tie? Run off with just the tied names? Keep voting open longer and hope someone weighs in?


I hadn't planned for that. I suspect I'll simply keep it open for two extra days.

   50. Bote Man Posted: September 25, 2017 at 04:40 PM (#5538652)
As someone who finds frequent name changes more annoying than corporate names, I applaud the electorate!

The electorate takes a bow!

By the way, the DISCUSSION thread, not this voting thread, has been pinned to the top of the Newsstand since this voting thread started.

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