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Monday, January 29, 2018

Taking Back the Ballparks - New York Mets

As alluded to in the opening piece, the Mets have one of the least objectionable corporates name for a ballpark, at least of those names without an existing tie to the franchise. Citi Field sounds good, simple, and could easily be mistaken for a name without a corporate tie-in if not for the unfortunate spelling. On a related note, it took me several years before I realized the first wave of corporate-monikered NBA arenas in Salt Lake City, Phoenix and Chicago - the Delta Center, America West Arena and United Center -  were named after airlines. They sounded so generic, not much different than the Memorials and Municipals of old.

The Mets’ former home, Shea Stadium, is almost certainly the stadium I’ve spent the most time in, between Mets and Jets games attended as a young lad. I haven’t been to Citi (or its crosstown and, it seems, inferior cousin built at the same time), but I hear it’s nice. I wish they hadn’t caved into pressure and pulled the outfield fences in, as others have done, which has only contributed to the K or HR frenzy in today’s game.

There should be no shortage of options for potential names, though I’m asking Jim to give Fred Wilpon the old Base treatment so we’re not inundated with some variation on Ebbets Field.

Here’s the Mets thread. Let’s see if we can hold the self-immolation and drag Primer fave Sam M. out of self-imposed exile.

Ballpark History
Built: 2009
Capacity: 41,922
Name: Citi Field, 2009-present.
Other ballparks used by club in its current city: Polo Grounds 1962-63, Shea Stadium, 1964-2008. Also, Mets’ National League forebears New York Giants played games at various stadia named Polo Grounds 1880-1957, and while Brooklyn Dodgers played at Washington Park 1883-1891, Eastern Park in 1892-1897, Washington Park (the sequel) 1898-1913, Ebbets Field 1913-1957.
Distinctive Features: Shea Stadium favorite, the apple; Jackie Robinson Rotunda, one of the park’s many nods to Wilpon’s Brooklyn Dodgers fetish; Shea Bridge.

Ballpark Highlights:

In 2012, Johan Santana threw a Reverse Galarraga, benefiting from a blown call by third base ump Adrian Johnson to toss the first no-hitter in club history in the team’s 8,020th game.

Later that month, R.A. Dickey tossed a Vander Meer Light, blanking the Orioles 5-0 for his second-straight one-hitter. Four months later, he’d capture the Cy Young Award.

Still later that year, David Wright singled to center in the fourth inning against Pittsburgh, which mercifully allowed him to pass Ed Kranepool as the club’s all-time hits leader.

In 2013, the Mets hosted the All-Star game for the first time in 49 years. As this was during the It Counts era of the contest, the American League’s 3-0 victory gave the Junior Circuit HFA in the World Series, allowing the Red Sox to win the Fall Classic on home soil a few months later. Thanks.

In 2015, Eric Hosmer, the major leaguer who most closely resembles one of those evil snowmen Calvin used to build, dashed for home on a grounder to Wright, scoring when Lucas Duda’s throw from first sailed wide of the plate. The run tied Game 5 with two outs in the top of the ninth, and the Royals would later score five in the outward half of the 12th to win the first all-expansion World Series. 

 

 

Texas Rangers - The Ballpark in Arlington

San Diego Padres - Mission Field

Boston Red Sox - Fenway Park

Washington Nationals - Nationals Park

Tampa Bay Rays - Suncoast Dome

Philadelphia Phillies - Citizens Park

Seattle Mariners - Cascadia Field

Pittsburgh Pirates - Allegheny Park

Kansas City Royals - Kauffman Stadium

Edit: with Swoboda is Freedom’s Fix.

SoSH U at work Posted: January 29, 2018 at 10:00 AM | 49 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: January 29, 2018 at 10:31 AM (#5614879)
The Mets are up.
   2. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: January 29, 2018 at 10:37 AM (#5614881)
I find myself referring to it as Shea Stadium when I think about it but I feel like Citi Field is actually appropriate. New York is the financial capital of the country (the world?) and CitiBank has been there in some form for 200 years.
   3. formerly dp Posted: January 29, 2018 at 10:51 AM (#5614884)
Yankees may have the better team, but Citi is by far a more fan-friendly experience, especially if you enjoy watching players spontaneously succumb to diseases you thought were eridicated centuries ago.
   4. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 29, 2018 at 10:54 AM (#5614886)
#2 is a pretty good defense for the current name.

Normally I ask myself "what's the city known for?" in trying to generate a park's name. But..... it's NYC. I mean, what ISN'T known for?

Big Apple Ballpark
Metropolitan Stadium


   5. BDC Posted: January 29, 2018 at 11:02 AM (#5614892)
The Mets are an example of a site that should be referred to just with the name of the district. "Willets Point" is a profoundly ugly place (has anyone ever walked through it on foot? I did, about 12 years ago, and it was very Third World then). But it sounds like a ballpark should be there, and the name conveys something of the grittiness of "Camden Yards" or other such locales. And it sure beats "Flushing."

So I'll just nominate "Willets Point," no Field, no Park, no nothing else.
   6. Lassus Posted: January 29, 2018 at 11:04 AM (#5614893)
LaGuardia Stadium
   7. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: January 29, 2018 at 11:37 AM (#5614909)
Gotham Grounds

It's not great, but it's the name the Mets deserve.
   8. villageidiom Posted: January 29, 2018 at 11:54 AM (#5614924)
I'll nominate Shiti Field, if only to get it out of the way.

My more serious nominations are:

Seaver Field
Amazin' Stadium
   9. PreservedFish Posted: January 29, 2018 at 11:59 AM (#5614931)
The Mets are an example of a site that should be referred to just with the name of the district.

Done
   10. Ziggy's screen name Posted: January 29, 2018 at 12:04 PM (#5614936)
I suggest going historical on this one. I know that they don't play in Hoboken, but then neither does anybody else, and given its significance to baseball history, I'd like to nominate 'Elysian Fields'. (They can build a little league field beyond CF or something to make the plural work.)
   11. Greg Pope Posted: January 29, 2018 at 12:16 PM (#5614951)
Similar to Philly, it could be a variation on Citi. Something as basic as City Park could work.
   12. Howie Menckel Posted: January 29, 2018 at 12:27 PM (#5614960)
They can build a little league field beyond CF

they actually have one already - but it's for toddlers
   13. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: January 29, 2018 at 12:33 PM (#5614964)
So I'll just nominate "Willets Point," no Field, no Park, no nothing else.

winner winner
   14. ajnrules Posted: January 29, 2018 at 12:43 PM (#5614968)
I'll second Seaver Field, or Tom Seaver Field.

And maybe harken back to the old AA New York Metropolitans with St. George Grounds or St. George Field.
   15. PreservedFish Posted: January 29, 2018 at 12:46 PM (#5614972)
Yes, I'd like to nominate City Field. With a 'y.'
   16. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: January 29, 2018 at 02:27 PM (#5615099)
I like Willets Point. That's a good idea.
   17. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: January 29, 2018 at 03:23 PM (#5615152)
Replacement Giants Stadium.
   18. Adam Starblind Posted: January 29, 2018 at 03:29 PM (#5615165)
Strawberry Field
   19. Stormy JE Posted: January 29, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5615175)
Ebbets Field. (You're welcome.)
   20. SoSH U at work Posted: January 29, 2018 at 03:35 PM (#5615178)
And it sure beats "Flushing."


Vlissingen Field.
   21. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 29, 2018 at 03:37 PM (#5615183)
So I'll just nominate "Willets Point," no Field, no Park, no nothing else.

winner winner

Concur. Like this one a lot.
   22. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: January 29, 2018 at 04:06 PM (#5615222)
The Mets are an example of a site that should be referred to just with the name of the district. "Willets Point" is a profoundly ugly place (has anyone ever walked through it on foot? I did, about 12 years ago, and it was very Third World then). But it sounds like a ballpark should be there, and the name conveys something of the grittiness of "Camden Yards" or other such locales. And it sure beats "Flushing."

Flushing Meadows.



I find myself referring to it as Shea Stadium when I think about it but I feel like Citi Field is actually appropriate. New York is the financial capital of the country (the world?) and CitiBank has been there in some form for 200 years.

As with PNC, that's fine until the contract lapses. Or the Wells Fargo acquisition.
   23. Baldrick Posted: January 29, 2018 at 04:20 PM (#5615239)
Willets Point sounds neat. City Field would be alright. Metropolitan Stadium does the job. I'd support any of those.

But TBH I'm mostly involved in this project now to try and ensure sure that we don't name parks after former players.
   24. QLE Posted: January 29, 2018 at 06:35 PM (#5615356)
There are several options open for us:

If we want to be sticklers for what worked before, Shea Stadium II.

If we point to what the Wilpons want it to be, New Ebbets Field (hat tip and Coke to JE).

If we wish to honor the two men without whom the Mets wouldn't exist, we could call it Walter O'Malley Field at Robert Moses Stadium.

If we care to indulge in some alternative history, Continental League Park is the obvious choice.

If we feel the need to honor the player that best represents the Mets, Greg Goossen Memorial Grounds is the only real choice.
   25. SoSH U at work Posted: January 29, 2018 at 06:45 PM (#5615364)
hat tip and Coke to JE


JE?
   26. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 29, 2018 at 06:58 PM (#5615368)
I have a problem calling it Ebbets. One thing I heard of the Mets: when they were new, their team colors were picked because they referred back to the old Brooklyn Dodgers and the old New York Giants. They were trying to win over both old NL fanbases. Naming their new stadium after only one of those teams seems a bit off the mark.
   27. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 29, 2018 at 07:04 PM (#5615375)
JE?

Post #19.
   28. JJ1986 Posted: January 29, 2018 at 07:13 PM (#5615382)
I like City Field and Willets Point. I'm trying to work in a reference to Shea, because I'll never call it anything else, but I can't make a good one.

Shea Grounds
Shea Stadium Memorial Park
The Field at Shea Grounds
   29. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 29, 2018 at 07:23 PM (#5615389)
The House That Ed Kranepool Built
   30. SoSH U at work Posted: January 29, 2018 at 07:30 PM (#5615393)
I beat JE to Wilpon’s Ebbets obsession by the entire length of the channel entry.
   31. QLE Posted: January 29, 2018 at 07:47 PM (#5615398)
In that case, have a Coke, too- I'm willing to share.
   32. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: January 29, 2018 at 09:13 PM (#5615434)
Metropolitan Park
   33. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: January 29, 2018 at 09:41 PM (#5615447)
I'm trying to work in a reference to Shea, because I'll never call it anything else, but I can't make a good one.


Shea Guevara Fields of equality
   34. Lassus Posted: January 30, 2018 at 08:46 AM (#5615593)
I doubt anyone will like it (EDIT: except JJ1986!), but I've sometimes used (just) New Shea.
   35. ajnrules Posted: January 30, 2018 at 09:07 AM (#5615615)
I have a problem calling it Ebbets. One thing I heard of the Mets: when they were new, their team colors were picked because they referred back to the old Brooklyn Dodgers and the old New York Giants. They were trying to win over both old NL fanbases. Naming their new stadium after only one of those teams seems a bit off the mark.

Ebbets Grounds?
   36. BDC Posted: January 30, 2018 at 09:43 AM (#5615654)
Thanks for all the nice remarks on Willets Point, everybody.

I looked up the name, and it has a complicated history. Apparently Willets Point itself is on Long Island Sound further east. There used to be a road out to it called Willets Point Boulevard, and the el stop near where the Mets play now was called "Willets Point" after the boulevard, not the point. The original easterly Willets Point itself belonged for about 30 years in the 19th century to some guy named Charles Willets, or at least perhaps to two guys of that name, senior and junior, who are apparently buried in Brooklyn but whose exploits are otherwise lost to Googlable history.

Kevin Walsh has more at Forgotten NY.
   37. Swoboda is freedom Posted: January 30, 2018 at 10:43 AM (#5615714)
I would like to make a correction on the intro. Under previous parks, the Mets played in the Polo Grounds as well for the first 2 seasons, 1962 and 1963, before Shea opened.

I kind of like CitiField as a name, though I constantly refer to it as Shea.
   38. SoSH U at work Posted: January 30, 2018 at 10:49 AM (#5615722)
Thank you. It has been updated.
   39. J in the Slope Posted: January 30, 2018 at 12:17 PM (#5615809)
A dozen years ago, I thought the natural corporate fit was MetLife Field, but maybe that would have been too subtle for the MetLife corporate overlords. And then they sponsored a football stadium in New Jersey where two New York teams play.
   40. Adam Starblind Posted: January 30, 2018 at 04:39 PM (#5616044)
I distinctly remember some chatter around here that it would be cool if the corporate sponsor were Donald Trump--Trump Stadium. That would not be cool.
   41. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: January 31, 2018 at 03:42 PM (#5616681)
Corona Park
   42. . . . . . . Posted: January 31, 2018 at 07:35 PM (#5616869)
Payson Field
   43. Tin Angel Posted: January 31, 2018 at 07:53 PM (#5616876)
Bonilla Ballpark.
   44. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: January 31, 2018 at 11:33 PM (#5617001)
Payson Field

Payson Place?

Bonilla Ballpark.

Heh.
   45. . . . . . . Posted: January 31, 2018 at 11:37 PM (#5617004)
Payson Place?


Payson something. Joan Payson was a damn cool bird, and ahead of her time.
   46. The usual palaver and twaddle (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: February 01, 2018 at 11:45 AM (#5617195)
When the corporate sponsorship sweepstakes was on, I was really hoping it would end up the Ralph Lauren Polo Grounds...
   47. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: February 01, 2018 at 12:01 PM (#5617224)
The House that Bernie Madoff With
   48. Swoboda is freedom Posted: February 02, 2018 at 10:01 AM (#5617841)
Flight path stadium
   49. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: February 02, 2018 at 02:38 PM (#5618167)
Bonilla Ballpark.


The nice thing about this is you could pay it off over 250 years.

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