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Taking Back the Ballparks - Seattle Mariners

Part 8: Seattle Mariners
As mentioned in the opening thread to the series, the Mariners’ pending name change was the final push for this entire project. Among the first of the wave of new parks in the ‘90s, the House that Edgar Built has been called Safeco since it’s opening. It’s a name that’s served the facility quite well, has a common baseball term jammed in there, and surely everyone in the Pacific Northwest has the name ingrained in his head as the home of the M’s.
Now it won’t be, (Officially. Fans of the club will undoubtedly be calling it Safeco for years to come). Still, the home team announcers and local papers, TV and radio folk will refer to it by the new moniker, flummoxing many casual fans. Above all, that’s the kind of nonsense this endeavor was designed to prevent. Names are meant to help identify, not confuse.
Based on previous competitions, my guess is that our voters will be overwhelmingly in favor of just keeping the current name on the joint. No argument there, but we can still get adventurous and come up with some decent possibilities if we were opening the place tomorrow before we vote to keep Safeco, can’t we?
Ahh, a boy can dream.

Ballpark History

Built: 1999
Capacity: 47,943
Name: Safeco Field (1999-2018), Something Crappy (2018-)
Other ballparks used by club in its current city: Kingdome 1977-1999.  Pilots played one season at Sicks’ Stadium in 1969.
Distinctive Features: Safeco’s retractable roof leaves open air, the only of its type in the big leagues; Baseball Museum of the Pacific Northwest and Mariners Hall of Fame located there; Extensive public art space.
Ballpark Highlights:
In the first game after the all-star break, Seattle dropped a 3-2 decision to traditional interleague geographical rival San Diego in the first game played at Safeco Field. The Mariners entered the ninth leading 2-1 before Jose Mesa yielded two in the top of the frame, allowing M’s fans to instantly reminisce about the Kingdome days.

On April 2, 2001, in the M’s first game since Alex Rodriguez left to sign a record FA deal with Texas, new Mariner Ichiro Suzuki went 2-5 with a run scored in a 5-4 win over Oakland. It was the first of a team-record 116 wins, and the first two of Suzuki’s 242 hits in his MVP season.

During the 72nd MLB All-Star Game, Dodgers pitcher Chan Ho Park took requests.

In 2009, Alexei Ramirez reached on a single to third on a play that sent Adrian Beltre to the disabled list with a “severely contused right testicle.” It was a play that still didn’t convince the future Hall of Famer to wear a protective cup, a very Beltrean decision.

In the span of less than five months in 2012, Chicago’s Philip Humber threw a perfect game against the home team, a sextet of M’s hurlers no-hit the Dodgers (exciting catcher Jesus Montero and no one else), and Felix Hernandez tossed a perfect game against the Rays.

TBtB Selections To Date:


San Francisco Giants - China Basin

Texas Rangers - The Ballpark in Arlington

San Diego Padres - Mission Field

Boston Red Sox - Fenway Park

Washington Nationals - Nationals Park

Tampa Bay Rays - Suncoast Dome

Philadelphia Phillies - Citizens Park

 

SoSH U at work Posted: December 05, 2017 at 10:30 AM | 58 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: December 05, 2017 at 10:45 AM (#5586320)
Sorry for the delay. The M's are now on the clock.

   2. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 05, 2017 at 10:53 AM (#5586327)
a sextet of M’s hurlers no-hit the Dodgers (exciting catcher Jesus Montero and no one else)

BEHOLD! The future of no-hitters!
   3. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: December 05, 2017 at 10:55 AM (#5586337)
Thinking about tying in the music history of the area...

Superfuzz Bigmuff Field
Stargazer Stadium
   4. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: December 05, 2017 at 10:56 AM (#5586338)
Ranier Field.
   5. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: December 05, 2017 at 11:30 AM (#5586370)
Thinking about tying in the music history of the area...

Kurt Cobain Stadium. It's exactly what he would have wanted.
   6. Nasty Nate Posted: December 05, 2017 at 11:33 AM (#5586375)
Kurt Cobain Stadium.
Buck Farmer Will Have His Revenge on Seattle?
   7. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: December 05, 2017 at 11:45 AM (#5586398)
Griffey World.

It would never work, but it should. The Kid is The Man. 1990s Griffey was something else - I can only hope that one day my sons will be able to see a player that good, and that joyful.
   8. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: December 05, 2017 at 12:05 PM (#5586425)
Dead Singers Stadium?
.... Cornell, Cobain, Layne Staley, Andrew Wood.
   9. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: December 05, 2017 at 12:06 PM (#5586426)
Elliott Bay Park. Alki Point Park. Arthur Denny Park. Duwamish Park. Cascadia Field.
   10. SoSH U at work Posted: December 05, 2017 at 12:18 PM (#5586436)
That's the spirit Lance.

Cascadia Field really rolls off the tongue.
   11. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: December 05, 2017 at 12:24 PM (#5586442)
Seamen Stadium

   12. Greg Pope Posted: December 05, 2017 at 12:55 PM (#5586468)
I think #4 nails it. Except, that if it's named after the mountain, it's "Rainier". Which makes it more perfect since it plays off the weather in Seattle.
   13. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: December 05, 2017 at 12:57 PM (#5586471)
Not that straightlace Denny. You want the spirit of Seattle, go with Doc Maynard :)

Cascadia is nice, or maybe Evergreen Field.
   14. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: December 05, 2017 at 01:04 PM (#5586477)
Oooh, Cascadia Field is very good.
   15. Steve Parris, Je t'aime Posted: December 05, 2017 at 01:05 PM (#5586478)
Frasier Field, Vedderans Stadium.
   16. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: December 05, 2017 at 01:12 PM (#5586482)
The Nintendome (yes, yes, I know it's a retractable roof)
   17. Baldrick Posted: December 05, 2017 at 01:28 PM (#5586492)
Cascadia is nice. That and Rainier Field were the two that immediately occurred to me. Evergreen Field would be okay.

Another possibility is Pioneer Park.
   18. QLE Posted: December 05, 2017 at 01:53 PM (#5586517)
Sick's Stadium II
   19. Nasty Nate Posted: December 05, 2017 at 02:31 PM (#5586584)
The Kingpark

(not a joke suggestion, by the way)
   20. Rusty Priske Posted: December 05, 2017 at 02:32 PM (#5586585)
PNW Park

But Cascadia really works.

Growing up watching Washington state tv (in Victoria), Rainier to me means a beer brand. (Remember that commercial with the motorcycle? Raaaaaaaaaneeeeeeeeer Beeeeeeeeeer)
   21. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: December 05, 2017 at 02:34 PM (#5586592)
The Kingpark

(not a joke suggestion, by the way)


Are you sure?
   22. Nasty Nate Posted: December 05, 2017 at 02:36 PM (#5586594)

Are you sure?
It's better than the suggestion that I was going to give before I remembered that Nintendo sold the team...
   23. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 05, 2017 at 02:51 PM (#5586614)
Pilots played one season at Sick’s Stadium in 1969.


Yes, this is trivial, but it was named Sicks' Stadium when the Pilots played there. After owner Emil Sick passed away, and the Stadium was owned by multiple members of the family, they changed the name from the singular to the plural.

In the span of less than five months in 2012, Chicago’s Philip Humber threw a perfect game against the home team, a sextet of M’s hurlers no-hit the Dodgers (exciting catcher Jesus Montero and no one else), and Felix Hernandez tossed a perfect game against the Rays.


I have a friend, not a huge baseball fan, who attended four games in that span. Those were three of them.

I like the Cascadia Field suggestion.

   24. Graham & the 15-win "ARod Vortex of suck" Posted: December 05, 2017 at 03:00 PM (#5586619)
It's better than the suggestion that I was going to give before I remembered that Nintendo sold the team...


I thought Nintendo still owned a 10% stake in the team?
   25. SoSH U at work Posted: December 05, 2017 at 03:15 PM (#5586639)

Yes, this is trivial, but it was named Sicks' Stadium when the Pilots played there.


In the renaming threads, there are no misplaced apostrophes that can be called trivial. It has been corrected.
   26. Lassus Posted: December 05, 2017 at 03:19 PM (#5586645)
Not sure I can improve upon what's already up, other than a dull if at least sibilant Seattle Stadium.
   27. Nasty Nate Posted: December 05, 2017 at 03:23 PM (#5586649)
I thought Nintendo still owned a 10% stake in the team?
Is that percentage enough to call the park The Mushroom Kingdom?
   28. Ziggy's screen name Posted: December 05, 2017 at 03:31 PM (#5586656)
I assume you meant 'Mushroom Kingdome'?
   29. Rusty Priske Posted: December 06, 2017 at 09:16 AM (#5587077)
Where is the 'Like' button?
   30. Jose is an Absurd Force of Nature Posted: December 06, 2017 at 09:25 AM (#5587086)
Press B-A-Up-Down-AB at the same time-then Start three times fast
   31. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:02 PM (#5587251)
I think #4 nails it. Except, that if it's named after the mountain, it's "Rainier". Which makes it more perfect since it plays off the weather in Seattle.


Yeah, #4 is great.
   32. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:15 PM (#5587267)
siʔaɫ Stadium. That's the proper spelling of the name of the Native American leader now called Seattle. Should be fun to hear pronounced on the radio.
   33. Omineca Greg Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:20 PM (#5587274)
Mushroom Kingdome is excellent.

If we were going with musical references, my suggestion would be "The Castle Made Of Sand".

"Each year the Mariners pennant plan, slips into the sea, eventually..." That slogan would move tickets, you know it would. I'd love to hear the announcers say that every game.

"The Dead Albatross" also has a certain appeal to me.

Out of all the big American cities, Seattle is the one I've been to the most. 25 years ago, I really liked it. I don't enjoy it the way I used to, maybe it's just that my friends have all moved out to the suburbs, so I spend more time in less interesting places.

I like Rainier (although like Rusty, I associate it with the beer). I like Cascadia too.
   34. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:24 PM (#5587280)
When plans were afoot to replace the Kingdome with a privately funded stadium, the name People's Park was much bandied about. As was Pioneer Park, after the historic neighborhood adjacent to the stadium district.

Evergreen Field could work.

A T-shirt lately popular around here inspires me to suggest Rain & Coffee & Salmon & Weed Field.

Socialist Stadium? Blue-State Bastion?

J.P. Patches Park?

There was a minor league stadium in Aberdeen WA called Electric Park, which would be a fun, steampunky name to use now.

Tahoma is the (transliterated) native name for the mountain now called Rainier.

Puget Park?
   35. Omineca Greg Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:30 PM (#5587289)
J.P. Patches Park?

Man, I loved that show! I watched it everyday before I went to elementary school. Chris Wedes and Bob Newman were both very talented performers.
   36. Nasty Nate Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:34 PM (#5587298)
Tahoma is the (transliterated) native name for the mountain now called Rainier.
I like Tahoma Park.

Or would that be confusing with the nearby city using the alternate spelling?
   37. Jarrod HypnerotomachiaPoliphili (TeddyF.Ballgame) Posted: December 06, 2017 at 12:39 PM (#5587305)
Maybe, but no one cares what Tacoma thinks.
   38. villageidiom Posted: December 06, 2017 at 02:52 PM (#5587521)
The Nintendome (yes, yes, I know it's a retractable roof)


The Nintendome Switch, then.
   39. Baldrick Posted: December 06, 2017 at 03:22 PM (#5587544)
The Nintendome Switch, then.

Primey
   40. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: December 06, 2017 at 03:54 PM (#5587575)
+1 on the JP Patches love. Fond memories of George of the Jungle and Superchicken shorts, and also, weirdly, a video about the US Mint that taught me about Salmon P. Chase. Perhaps in his honor we could use The City Dump as a nickname.

To go with the native wildlife theme, Seagull Stadium - a flock of which used to descend on the stands for cleanup duty. Perhaps "I Ran" could be incorporated as a theme song during rallies.

Tahoma isn't bad, and Puget Park is pretty good. I'm trying really, really hard not to mention Boeing Field and Starbucks Grounds, but it's difficult :)
   41. Crispix Attacksel Rios Posted: December 06, 2017 at 04:07 PM (#5587592)
Just realized that after almost 20 years of hearing its name constantly I have never learned what the heck "Safeco" is. Probably a local bank or something.
   42. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: December 06, 2017 at 04:31 PM (#5587617)
Close; it's insurance. Humorously (depending on how you're calibrated), "the Safe" sits next to "the Clink" (Century Link Field) and the basketball arena is "the Key" (for Key Bank) back when that sort of thing existed in Seattle.
   43. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: December 06, 2017 at 04:37 PM (#5587619)
Also, I haven't followed the predecessors for this thread, so this may be old news, but this site is likely of interest to anyone reading here:

Naming Wrongs
   44. Edmundo got dem ol' Kozma blues again mama Posted: December 06, 2017 at 04:52 PM (#5587629)
I got nuthin' -- Cascadia Park has a nice sound to it.
   45. Tom Nawrocki Posted: December 06, 2017 at 05:02 PM (#5587637)
After owner Emil Sick passed away,


I didn't even know he was Sick.
   46. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: December 06, 2017 at 07:25 PM (#5587731)
King County Stadium, which is bland but fitting
SoDo Field, after the neighborhood it's in

Safeco has been selling me insurance most of my life. I've never liked the name of the stadium as a result.
   47. Russ Posted: December 06, 2017 at 10:04 PM (#5587782)
Edgar Martinez Park

Affectionately known as “The Gar” which works due its proximity to the train station as well.
   48. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: December 06, 2017 at 11:28 PM (#5587817)
Boeing Ballpark

Grunge Center

Ichiro! Stadium

   49. JJ1986 Posted: December 07, 2017 at 08:06 AM (#5587852)
The King Diamond
Emerald City Greens
   50. Omineca Greg Posted: December 07, 2017 at 12:33 PM (#5587993)
The King Diamond
Emerald City Greens

I like both of those, if for some reason my nomination, "The Dead Albatross" doesn't get any traction, I could vote for either of them.
   51. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: December 07, 2017 at 12:35 PM (#5587994)
You might as well call it Amazon Park. Resistance is futile.
   52. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: December 07, 2017 at 12:39 PM (#5587997)
Also, I haven't followed the predecessors for this thread, so this may be old news, but this site is likely of interest to anyone reading here:

Naming Wrongs


Those are all great, but I was hoping to see one that read "I STILL CALL IT BRIGGS STADIUM".
   53. PepTech, the Legendary Posted: December 07, 2017 at 12:44 PM (#5587999)
Emerald City Greens is pretty good. How about "Emerald Grounds"?
   54. Baldrick Posted: December 07, 2017 at 01:32 PM (#5588063)
FYI, from someone who grew up in the area and who still returns regularly, 'the emerald city' is very much a thing that only people who aren't from Seattle say. It would feel pretty weird to me if the stadium were named that way.

It would be like calling the Yankees' stadium 'The Big Apple Park'
   55. vortex of dissipation Posted: December 07, 2017 at 02:59 PM (#5588165)
Props on the Boeing Field suggestion, too. I'm sure everyone who lives here knows this, but for others, Boeing Field was the original name of what is now officially called King County International Airport (although people here still call it Boeing Field.)
   56. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: December 11, 2017 at 11:49 AM (#5590098)
This could be a really interesting election as there's a lot of really good ideas in this thread, but not that One Single Obvious One.

Rainier Stadium / Tahoma Field (both sound good, but if we're gonna make that one of the choices, Tahoma sounds good and is the Native American name for the place).
Cascadia Field
Nintendome Switch
Pioneer Park
Evergreen Field
Puget Park
Boeing Ballpark

This could be one of the tricker elections for sure.
   57. SoSH U at work Posted: December 11, 2017 at 11:50 AM (#5590100)
Nominations close tomorrow. But hats off already. This has been one of the best collection of possibilities so far.


   58. Fernigal McGunnigle Posted: December 11, 2017 at 12:05 PM (#5590113)
Boeing moved their corporate HQ to Chicago (manufacturing remains in Everett, WA), so Boeing Field might be a bit troublesome. Rainier Field runs into the problem of the AAA team being named the Rainiers.

The stadium is right next to the Alaskan Way Viaduct, which dominates that part of the harborfront and which is being replaced by a tunnel. I like the sound of Alaskan Way Field, and in 50 years no one will remember the elevated highway and so the name will be mysterious and interesting.

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