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Taking Back the Ballparks - Texas Rangers

  The next stop* on our cavalcade of taxpayer palaces is Arlington, the hyphen in the Dallas-Fort Worth metro area. We’re going here now because the venue is in danger of soon meeting the wrecking ball, on account the old ballyard has already been hosting MLB for more than two whole decades.
  Among the very first of the retro parks, it was long known by the clunky The Ballpark in Arlington, a name that would fit nicely in front of a gated subdivision, the kind of place the McMansions Suck woman would delightfully ridicule. The Chalets on Kensington. The Cottages of Red Hill. The Ballpark in Arlington. It has sported two other forgettable names before landing its current moniker, the even clunkier Globe Life Park in Arlington.  All of the iterations have what must be a city-mandated “in Arlington” appendage. I doubt any makes the cut in our exercise.
  However, coming up with a suitable replacement might be a little tricky, given the location. Arlington doesn’t have the rich history of a San Francisco, or even that of Dallas or Fort Worth. It’s a city that seemingly only exists to support pro sports teams and to employ our own Bob Dernier. We may need to get a little more creative on this one, or at least extend our reach throughout the Metroplex. 
  Make your case for a new name below, and try to avoid any Cowboys references. Pat Rapper’s Delight doesn’t like that.

* As was pointed out a few times in the previous threads, this is actually our first stop, the Giants having committed the unpardonable sin of mostly funding their own place.

Ballpark History

Built: 1994
Capacity: 48,114
Name: Globe Life Park in Arlington (previously: The Ballpark in Arlington Ameriplex Field in Arlington, Rangers Ballpark in Arlington)
Other ballparks used by club in its current city: Arlington Stadium (1972-1993)
Distinctive Features: The grassy hill in center that serves as batter’s eye, where teenagers scramble to retrieve homers blasted to straightaway center.

Ballpark Highlights:
In just the 54th game ever played there, Kenny Rogers threw a perfect game for the Rangers.
On June 12, 1997, Texas lefthander Darren Oliver delivered a pitch to San Francisco’s Darryl Hamilton, officially kicking off interleague play in Major League Baseball.
On July 1, 2006, Gary Matthews Jr. made one of the most incredible, and lucrative, catches in recent baseball history, robbing Houston’s Mike Lamb of a homer.
In 2010, in the 39th season of Texas baseball, Ranger fans finally got to witness a home postseason victory with a 7-2 win over the Yankees in the American League Championship Series. Texas had lost its first seven home playoff games, including two in the team’s ALDS win over the Rays.
In 2017, baseball’s most lovable player, Adrian Beltre, collected his 3000th hit with a double to left (thanks to ajnrules for the reminder).

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   1. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:16 AM (#5507761)
Nominations are now being accepted.

   2. Jose is El Absurd Bronson Y Pollo Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:20 AM (#5507765)
Yellow Rose Park
   3. Nasty Nate Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:41 AM (#5507780)
1) The Ballpark In Arlington
2) Rangers Ballpark

They have the advantage of being one-time actual real-life names for the place.
   4. BDC Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:41 AM (#5507781)
Yeah, you've gotta get this one in fast, because you'll be repeating the exercise for the new BDC Dome in 2020 or so. In fact, we can probably skip that exercise and just call the new one the BDC Dome from the start.

Locally, granting the stupidity of the "in Arlington" tag phrase, nobody has ever called the current place anything but "The Ballpark." I'll go with that.
   5. Tom Nawrocki Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:43 AM (#5507784)
The first-ever game there was played by scabs, wasn't it? That's kind of sad.
   6. BDC Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:47 AM (#5507789)
The first-ever game there was played by scabs, wasn't it?

No. I seem to remember a "replacement-player" exhibition game there in the spring of '95, but the park opened in the spring of 1994.
   7. Don August(us) Cesar Geronimo Berroa Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:51 AM (#5507796)
The Ballpark
   8. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:02 AM (#5507810)
Make your case for a new name below, and try to avoid any Cowboys references. Pat Rapper’s Delight doesn’t like that.

Damn right! Got more than enough of that nonsense in Frisco, where civic leaders are busy giving Jerry Jones a ballwashing at every turn since he couldn't say "No" to $100,000,000 of free tax money for a new practice field and a sweetheart deal on the adjacent land development rights, where every other business "partner" must also co-promote Satan's Team.

As for the ballpark name, there can only be one: The Ballpark in Arlington.
   9. ajnrules Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:03 AM (#5507813)
Not going to mention Adrian Beltre's recent 3,000th hit as being a ballpark highlight moment? Rafael Palmeiro also got his 500th home run there.

Anyways, just going to throw this out there: Nolan Ryan Field
   10. Ziggy: The Platonic Form of Russell Branyan Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:03 AM (#5507814)
Rodriguez Downs
   11. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:09 AM (#5507825)
When it opened, I thought that The Ballpark at Arlington was a spectacular name. Simple and basic - but no one else had ever used it, so good for them.

What else could you go with? I like the Yellow Rose Park that Jose mentioned, but I'd still go with The Ballpark.

What else is Texas (or just Bush) known for that you could turn into a ballpark? Cattle? Cotton? Oil? Bush? Nolan Ryan? I-Rod?

I don't see anything beating The Ballpark.
   12. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:11 AM (#5507826)
Anyways, just going to throw this out there: Nolan Ryan Field

I also noted that as an idea, but ..... he currently works for the Houston Astros. So that's a bit awkward.
   13. RoyalsRetro (AG#1F) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:14 AM (#5507831)
Hot as Hell Stadium
   14. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:31 AM (#5507856)
In fitting with Texas culture, obviously the only real choices would be Open Carry Stadium or Concealed Carry Park.
   15. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:33 AM (#5507859)
Not going to mention Adrian Beltre's recent 3,000th hit as being a ballpark highlight moment? Rafael Palmeiro also got his 500th home run there.

Crap. I put the list together before AB's 3K, and I didn't think to update. I'll rectify that.
   16. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:34 AM (#5507862)
What else is Texas (or just Bush) known for that you could turn into a ballpark?


Lone Star Stadium.

   17. villageidiom Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:39 AM (#5507873)
Lone Star Stadium.

Apt because it's in the Lone Star State, and a single star figures prominently in design motifs throughout the park. (Also, they have Adrian Beltre and nobody else, hence "lone star".)

You can make the same case on the star motif for Houston, but I think there are better options for alternate names for their park.

EDIT: I go to retrieve links to pictures, and the thread author slips in with my suggestion before I could post it. Dammit.
   18. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:40 AM (#5507874)
Yeah, you've gotta get this one in fast, because you'll be repeating the exercise for the new BDC Dome in 2020 or so.


A good name will be able to move into the new park and replace whatever corporate monstrosity they eventually decide on.

The Ballpark in Arlington ... don't love it, but I guess it works. That's my vote.
   19. BDC Posted: August 07, 2017 at 11:55 AM (#5507887)
A good name will be able to move into the new park and replace whatever corporate monstrosity they eventually decide on

That's a good point. Yankee Stadium is like that – also Busch, which is corporate but venerable.

OK, I withdraw my bid for naming rights to the new dome. The Ballpark it will be.
   20. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 07, 2017 at 12:08 PM (#5507907)
The snark in #14 aside, I'd also favor The Ballpark, which everyone knows is in Arlington so you don't really need to add that. And anyway, some day they may move to Dallas, youneverknow.
   21. BDC Posted: August 07, 2017 at 01:23 PM (#5508027)
some day they may move to Dallas

I hope very literally over my dead body :-D
   22. Omineca Greg Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:05 PM (#5508073)
The Ornette

Unique and memorable, just like the man.
   23. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:10 PM (#5508077)
The Ornette

Blech. I can listen to Pat Metheny Group for hours but find Song X completely and totally unlistenable.
   24. Omineca Greg Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:18 PM (#5508092)
I can listen to Pat Metheny Group for hours but find Song X completely and totally unlistenable


You don't like other Ornette?

I remember when I was first getting into jazz in high school, I had a trumpet playing friend who I'd go to for advice.

"Who are the best trumpet players?" I asked.

"Dizzy, Wynton, Woody".

So I listened to all those. They were all great.

"Who is the worst trumpet player?" I asked.

"Ornette Coleman, without a doubt. But he's not a real trumpeter. But his sidekick, Don Cherry, he sucks almost as bad."

So, of course I rushed out and bought some albums (no really, that's what you had to do back then).

And my life hasn't been the same since.
   25. Pat Rapper's Delight (as quoted on MLB Network) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:28 PM (#5508111)
"Who are the best trumpet players?" I asked.

"Dizzy, Wynton, Woody".


Your friend should have simply said, "Maynard," especially in Canada, eh?

But at least he didn't say, "Miles."

You don't like other Ornette?

Haven't listened to any other Ornette.
   26. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:30 PM (#5508112)
My favorite jazz is from that moment in the early 60s when hard bop kind of split open and there was an explosive avant-garde moment. I didn't love every direction it took (I detest fusion and Albert Ayler is a bit too much for me) but Ornette Coleman's early recordings hit that sweet spot where the music still swings but it is terribly free and emotional, more so than anything that came before it. "Lonely Woman."
   27. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:33 PM (#5508121)
Distinctive Features: The grassy hill in center that serves as batter’s eye, where teenagers scramble to retrieve homers blasted to straightaway center.

Grassy Knoll Park. It's flawless.
   28. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:49 PM (#5508146)
Grassy Knoll Park

Book Depository Ballpark sounds better.
   29. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2017 at 02:50 PM (#5508148)
Book Depository Ballpark sounds better.

And if they had a book depository in center field, I'd agree with you 100%.
   30. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 03:09 PM (#5508168)
If I want to go for boring, how about Arlington Park? Sounds like a racetrack.

I do like Lone Star Stadium.
   31. SoSH U at work Posted: August 07, 2017 at 03:32 PM (#5508197)
Sounds like a racetrack.


It is. Home of the Arlington Million.
   32. Omineca Greg Posted: August 07, 2017 at 03:33 PM (#5508200)
Haven't listened to any other Ornette.


Yeah, I only have a passing familiarity with Song X, I know a lot of people hate it, and not just Pat Metheny fans either.

I think the Coleman/Cherry/Haden/Higgins quartet made timeless, classic music. As Mr. Fish alludes to, it's still boppish enough that most listeners should be able to get to it if they're bop fans already, but so very personal in its expression.
   33. There are no words... (Met Fan Charlie) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 03:50 PM (#5508223)
It is. Home of the Arlington Million.


I knew it sounded familiar...
   34. BDC Posted: August 07, 2017 at 04:12 PM (#5508239)
There was a racetrack called Arlington Downs in the mid-20th century, just east of the current Ballpark location.
   35. SBB, Live from the Alt-Center Posted: August 07, 2017 at 04:26 PM (#5508251)
And if they had a book depository in center field, I'd agree with you 100%.


Well, then even better for the Stanley Kubrick homage nominee -- The Texas Book Suppository Ballpark.
   36. stevegamer Posted: August 07, 2017 at 04:51 PM (#5508271)
The Ballpark in Arlington is absolutely fine.

Says what it is, and where it is. Do we really need more than that?
   37. Infinite Yost (Voxter) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 04:57 PM (#5508276)
Grassy Knoll Park

Book Depository Ballpark sounds better.


I like Kennedy's Gaping Head Wound Stadium, myself.
   38. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 07, 2017 at 05:10 PM (#5508281)
If it helps spark any thoughts for anyone....

Timeline for Dallas

History of Dallas

Notable people from Dallas

Bonnie & Clyde Ballpark

Pantera Pavillion
   39. TDF, FCL Posted: August 07, 2017 at 05:14 PM (#5508285)
I like Kennedy's Gaping Head Wound Stadium, myself.
Mystery Bullet Ballpark.
   40. What did Billy Ripken have against ElRoy Face? Posted: August 07, 2017 at 05:29 PM (#5508296)
I like Kennedy's Gaping Head Wound Stadium, myself.

Again: The grassy knoll is already a distinctive feature of the ballpark. If they had a giant replica of Kennedy's Gaping Head Wound in center field, that would be a different story. And also, I have to say, in fairly poor taste.
   41. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2017 at 06:37 PM (#5508327)
Dunno. Seems more of a hillock to me.
   42. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 07, 2017 at 06:42 PM (#5508331)
Could locals chime in on whether the Trinity River Project makes Trinity River Park a nonstarter?
   43. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: August 07, 2017 at 06:58 PM (#5508340)
My nomination: The Stockade.
   44. frannyzoo Posted: August 07, 2017 at 07:12 PM (#5508345)
Historical Reference Nomination: Vandergriff Park

Musical Historical Reference Nomination: While I love Ornette myself, I'll point out that the Ornette nominations touch on another point about the Rangers. Growing up in DFW, I've always thought the Rangers as more "Foat Wuth" and the Cowboys as Dallas. So the Ornette reference makes sense, but I'll go another direction: Caravan of Dreams. And yeah, because the stadium name would just be cool.

   45. BDC Posted: August 07, 2017 at 07:20 PM (#5508349)
whether the Trinity River Project makes Trinity River Park a nonstarter?

The Ballpark is not really near the river, though – it's south of I-30 and the river is well north.
   46. Baldrick Posted: August 07, 2017 at 07:34 PM (#5508360)
Yeah, I know nothing about Arlington or really about any part of DFW at all, but "The Ballpark" is a perfectly nice name for a stadium, and they conveniently already have dibs.
   47. the Hugh Jorgan returns Posted: August 07, 2017 at 07:46 PM (#5508365)
"its not really that old and still looks ok on TV even though BDC says it is like a gazillion degrees in the summer and shouldn't need to be rebuilt yet stadium"

Though if the locals know it as just "the ballpark" then that is kind of cool. I like that.
   48. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 07, 2017 at 07:53 PM (#5508367)
The Ballpark is not really near the river, though – it's south of I-30 and the river is well north.

Yeah, but Johnson Creek Park sounds shitty.
   49. Omineca Greg Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:01 PM (#5508418)
Growing up in DFW, I've always thought the Rangers as more "Foat Wuth" and the Cowboys as Dallas


I've never thought that much about the distinction between the two cities. Does anybody have any insight into the differences between the two places, besides the obvious that they're occupying separate space on the globe?

   50. PreservedFish Posted: August 07, 2017 at 10:18 PM (#5508425)
Dallas-Ft. Worth is the most populous North American "urban agglomeration" that I have never set foot upon. It's #10.
   51. OsunaSakata Posted: August 08, 2017 at 07:34 AM (#5508543)
I support the name "The Ballpark in Arlington".
   52. BDC Posted: August 08, 2017 at 08:00 AM (#5508550)
Does anybody have any insight into the differences between the two places

Historically, Ft. Worth was a major center for cattle-trading and meat-packing – back when Rogers Hornsby was a kid and worked in the stockyards, over 100 years ago. Dallas had more of a financial and white-collar economic base, even early on. So there is this lingering sense that Ft. Worth is "Cowtown" and Dallas is … well, just some other big city.

But the Stockyards today are just a tourist attraction, and Dallas for its part has Fair Park, where they sell deep-fried butter and that sort of thing, so it balances out. And the cities are basically modeled on each other. They are both car-culture places banded by freeways. They both have a major university central to the city and its cultural life: TCU in Ft. Worth and SMU in Dallas, which are probably each other's most similar schools. They both have symphonies and opera companies and museums (great museums) and imposing downtowns and funky hipster districts which are like every other funky hipster district in every other big city. The industries are largely financial, health-care, insurance, and the like in both cities. They share the airport, which is a major employer.

Ft. Worth is a bit whiter and politically a bit redder. Its county (Tarrant) goes red in Presidential elections, and Dallas County goes blue, but that's a bit misleading: the city of Ft. Worth is getting steadily bluer, but is quite a bit smaller than Dallas, so its surrounding county is full of lots of red suburbs, whereas the reddest suburbs of Dallas spill north into other counties. George W and Laura Bush live in Dallas, or IIRC in one of the little enclaves called the Park Cities, around SMU. There are some conservatives in Dallas, for sure.

But you know what people are like, they will magnify differences in a sort of fractal way, so that two places that look identical from the outside are very crucially different from within. I know people who live in neighborhoods in Dallas that are exactly like parts of Ft. Worth, but they would never move to Ft. Worth, because it's just so … Ft. Worthy.
   53. Rennie's Tenet Posted: August 08, 2017 at 08:02 AM (#5508551)
Atz's Cats' Habitats
   54. ERROR---Jolly Old St. Nick Posted: August 08, 2017 at 08:05 AM (#5508552)
Dallas-Ft. Worth is the most populous North American "urban agglomeration" that I have never set foot upon. It's #10.

The only time I ever passed through Dallas, all I remember was that it was about 150 in the shade and there was a gas war and gas was 21 cents a gallon. Yay Dallas.
   55. BDC Posted: August 08, 2017 at 08:11 AM (#5508553)
he most populous North American "urban agglomeration" that I have never set foot upon

I guess for me that's Miami, unless you're counting Mexico City.

In that case I will recuse myself when it comes to renaming Jimmy Buffett Stadium or wherever the heck the Marlins play.
   56. PreservedFish Posted: August 08, 2017 at 08:55 AM (#5508574)
Oh, I'm definitely counting Mexico City. That agglomeration is tough to ignore.
   57. Rusty Priske Posted: August 09, 2017 at 02:08 PM (#5509882)
Joining the multitudes: The Ballpark in Arlington
   58. Ace Posted: August 10, 2017 at 01:08 PM (#5510538)
The Range
   59. Dag Nabbit at ExactlyAsOld.com Posted: August 10, 2017 at 04:38 PM (#5510776)
Lotta good ideas for the Rangers park - Lonestar Stadium, The Range, Yellow Rose Stadium --- but we all know what's gonna win: The Ballpark.
   60. nick swisher hygiene Posted: August 10, 2017 at 04:52 PM (#5510796)
Ft. Worth has all the best art, weirdly--both the Kimball and the Modern there are in a class above anything in Dallas (the Kimball is astonishing, one of the 3-4 great small eclectic collections in the country).

Dunno why. Its rich people were rich sooner, would be my guess...
   61. SoSHially Unacceptable Posted: August 12, 2017 at 10:32 AM (#5511825)
Reminder: Nominations close Monday.

We'll vote shortly after that.

And some emails should be checked.

   62. TR_Sullivan Posted: August 12, 2017 at 10:53 AM (#5511831)
The Ballpark in Arlington
   63. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: August 12, 2017 at 12:43 PM (#5511862)
Given that "The Ballpark in Arlington" is a terrible name, I propose that those who favor a different name come to an agreement on an alternative, to avoid splitting the vote and letting an atrocity happen. I don't particularly care which. Seems like "Lone Star Stadium" and "Yellow Rose Ballpark" are the current primary challengers?
   64. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 12, 2017 at 04:10 PM (#5511934)
I'm left cold by generic references to an entire gigantic state where another team also happens to reside. In the same way, I'd have taken "Golden Gate" and its specificity to San Francisco a thousand times over the vague coastalness of "Pacific." Being particular to the team and where it plays, I think Vandergriff Park's the best suggestion at this point, so if people are going to line up behind something, I'd hope it'd be that.
   65. BDC Posted: August 12, 2017 at 04:28 PM (#5511956)
Not that anyone gives a hoot in an exercise designed to give colorful monikers that are useful far away, but there already exist in the area a Lone Star Park (racetrack, Grand Prairie) and Vandergriff Park (public park, Arlington). So those names would probably not be formally proposed here for any new stadium.
   66. QLE Posted: August 12, 2017 at 05:33 PM (#5511996)
Serious answer: I agree with #44 involving Vandergriff Park, as, without him, much of this argument would be moot.

Less seriously: The National Cemetery, the Million, and the Halfway Point are all not likely to ever be approved of, but still all sound better to me than The Ballpark in Arlington.
   67. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: August 12, 2017 at 06:00 PM (#5512004)

Less seriously: The National Cemetery, the Million, and the Halfway Point are all not likely to ever be approved of, but still all sound better to me than The Ballpark in Arlington.


Agreed. Unless it is stipulated that "The Ballpark in Arlington" should only be represented in black sans-serif font on a plain white background. That I could support.
   68. Lance Reddick! Lance him! Posted: August 13, 2017 at 05:13 PM (#5512446)
Couldn't let the entire thread go by without: Stephen F. Austin Field

Because they're the Texas Rangers, after all.
   69. SoSH U at work Posted: August 14, 2017 at 10:15 AM (#5512652)
Voting is now open. Any discussion can continue here.

Here are your four options. Choose between any of the four selections. However, if you prefer Choice A), then please follow it up with 1) the naked version or 2) the full throw-back to the Ballpark in Arlington.


A) The Ballpark
1) The Ballpark (by itself)
2) The Ballpark in Arlington

B) Lone Star Stadium

C) The Stockade

D) Vandergriff Park

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