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1. Tricky Dick Posted: July 05, 2009 at 03:49 PM (#3242518)Well, I imagine that some male employees may not be too excited about that.
Good god. The revolution is coming.
however, the promotion HAS been cancelled:
http://www.poughkeepsiejournal.com/article/20090704/SPORTS03/90704014
"The Hudson Valley Renegades announced on their web site on Saturday that no one — male or female — will be denied access to their purchased seat as part of their promotion that the team says is a tribute to their female fans."
the part about keeping them out is the part that was the problem to me, I have no problem with them asking their employees to go drag(although it should be a volunteer thing and not a mandatory thing) but keeping out customers for five innings was just silly.
best i know, females were not banned from sitting in the stands. and dressing males in drag is not exactly gonna help them understand what it is like to be female
The (aptly named) Renegades planned Tuesday’s promotion to honor women by keeping men outside the gates for the first five innings,
1) Are these men who paid for a ticket? Because I didn't really get this the first time around, I thought it was a doubleheader or something and men weren't allowed into game 1. The men that come in at the top of the 6th, do they have to pay full price? If a man bought a ticket two months ago, are they going to bar him at the gate?
2) It'd be an interesting thing to see if a bunch of people get pissed off and there's some sort of altercation. A fire starts, the trucks show up, but the angry mob is also very appreciative of irony and pickles, so it only lets female firefighters in while inquiring of those inside how they like quotas now.
Dear god in heaven
muumuu, ya dumb f'in haole.
Screw unions. Texas is a right to work state, and boy is it ever. That said, if an employer demanded that a male employee who was normally just your average office worker put on a dress and wig and makeup and work all day like that or else he's fired, that employee would have 50 attorneys at his desk by lunch.
And lose his job nonetheless, which he won't do because a job, any job, in baseball that doesn't involve selling concessions or cleaning the park is extremely coveted and they probably do numerous demeaning or unpleasant things in the hopes of working their way up the baseball hierarchy over the years. (i.e., interns)
Sorry, I was saying that you don't need union rules for the team to be unable to mandate this. Texas is about as anti-union as it gets, so I was using it as a "even here, this wouldn't fly".
And lose his job nonetheless,
If his employer is that dumb, yes. If they decide to pay him in civil court, they have every ability to go ahead and fire him for not going in drag.
These are probably the feminists that thought that women aren't actually naturally more caring/ladylike/nurturing/whatever, that all of those supposedly feminine virtues were just traits that the evil men had trained them, and that without the forces of oppression the personalities of men and women would converge. I think their thought pops up in Women's Studies curricula but otherwise they are forgotten in the mists of time. It was a radical and really out of touch argument.
There were many different waves of feminist thought, some of whom argued things like the above, others who argued exactly the opposite, that women are different from men and that their natural traits should be celebrated.
In the real world, you might win a court case/settlement that allows you to keep your job, but you will nevertheless find your way out the door in short order anyway, either on some other technicality the employer comes up with, or because the employer determines to make your job a living hell until you get the memo and quit. Probably especially in a Raccoon Lodge-type industry like baseball where unofficial/unprovable blacklisting is probably not difficult to accomplish and by pissing off your employer you risk being removed not just from that company, but from the entire industry.
ya gotta take your meds or something if *that* gets you so bent out of shape.
On Dollar Night, tickets were $1. So were hot dogs. So were 12-oz beers. And parking was free. For $8, you could go to the game, have enough hot dogs to fill your stomach, and enough beer to get a buzz going. Then, my girlfriend, who couldn't drink because she was doing the radio broadcast, would drive us home.
I'll take that over Ladies Night any day of the week...
Well, yes, I was talking about a monetary settlement for wrongful termination (or whatever the particular case is) and not reinstatement making it whole. Honestly, I can't fathom someone being terminated in that set of facts suing with the sole goal of reinstatement, for the reasons you note. Basically, if my company fires me for not wearing the dress and the wig, I have zero interest in working there again, I don't care how much I loved it before. It would suck, but if you're good, you'll get back to work somewhere else. In the case of baseball, if they compound the first screwup (the idea) and the second (firing you) with a third (blackballing you for standing up for your rights) and you can't prove it...yeah, it blows. That's one of those brutal "life isn't fair" moments.
And that's to say nothing of what the female intern types probably have to go through for the sake of their hopes of advancing a career in the not just male but very much macho male dominated world of baseball.
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