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Wednesday, August 08, 2018

Tampa’s minor-league team lost without giving up a walk or hit. Blame a new baseball rule.

The Philadelphia Phillies’ Class A affiliate had no hits and no walks against the Tampa Tarpons, yet it beat the New York Yankees’ Florida State League club 1-0.

Clearwater took advantage of a rule introduced this year that places a runner at second base at the start of each extra inning to cut down on marathon games. The rule has been criticized by baseball traditionalists. On Monday, it made it possible for Tampa to lose despite a nearly perfect game.

Bring Me the Head of Alfredo Griffin (Vlad) Posted: August 08, 2018 at 07:59 AM | 13 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
  Tags: general, ghost runners, minor leagues, no-hitters, rules, tampa

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   1. eric Posted: August 08, 2018 at 08:48 AM (#5722949)
Two things:

1) I read that team name as the Tampa Tampons.

2) It sounds like an error was part of the sequence that allowed the winning run to score. However, let's say it remained a "perfect" game in that the guy at second went to third on a groundout to second and then scored on a sac fly. Would that still be a perfect game? Or does the fact that they allowed a runner by going into extras nullify that automatically? (And who is that automatic runner...anyone they want? Who would have been the leadoff batter?)

Anyways, seven inning and a ghost runner to begin any extra innings...sounds just like my beer league softball games. Do Tampons players have to pay $3 every time they arrive at the park?
   2. bunyon Posted: August 08, 2018 at 08:54 AM (#5722952)
Given how ghastly this rule is, why not just call it a tie and go home. No, I don't like ties in baseball but...automatic runner on second isn't baseball.
   3. bunyon Posted: August 08, 2018 at 08:55 AM (#5722953)
I don't see how it could be called a perfect game. A runner was put on and advanced. It does sound like they tried a FC and bobbled the ball but, as you say, with a runner on second, the defense could do everything right and allow the run.
   4. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: August 08, 2018 at 08:57 AM (#5722955)
For the minor leagues (and frankly the All Star Game) this is fine. I suspect that minor league fans are not particularly interested in staying until midnight for an 18 inning game and it adds some artificial excitement that the little kids that make up a large part of minor league attendees probably enjoy.

If this ever gets even discussed for MLB I will tie everyone who is in favor of it to a stake and set it alight.
   5. SandyRiver Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:00 AM (#5722957)
Though I know that scheduled 7-inning games are commonplace in the minors, I might be a tiny bit more tolerant of the rule (minors only) if it only went into effect after the 9th. Hard to wrap my mind around an 8-inning "extra innings" game in professional hardball.
   6. Red Voodooin Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:42 AM (#5722986)
I didn't know 7 inning games were "commonplace" in the affiliated minors. Is that just a Florida State league thing or something?

Oh also, absolutely #### this rule.
   7. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:45 AM (#5722991)
Can we have a player start on a Spiderman-themed second base?
   8. Jose is Absurdly Unemployed Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:47 AM (#5722993)
I didn't know 7 inning games were "commonplace" in the affiliated minors. Is that just a Florida State league thing or something?


I think it's just for doubleheaders.
   9. BrianBrianson Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:49 AM (#5722996)
Of course, it's not the only way to lose without giving up a hit, walk, error, or hit-batter. If a riot develops that can't be controlled, the home team forfeits.

Just sayin'.
   10. You Know Nothing JT Snow (YR) Posted: August 08, 2018 at 09:54 AM (#5722999)
That happened recently at Dubstep Demolition Night. Or it should have.
   11. PreservedFish Posted: August 08, 2018 at 10:18 AM (#5723014)
I think it's just for doubleheaders.


.777 (repeating, of course) headers.
   12. eric Posted: August 08, 2018 at 04:19 PM (#5723422)
.777 (repeating, of course) headers.


1.555... headers?
   13. stevegamer Posted: August 08, 2018 at 05:29 PM (#5723481)
For the minor leagues (and frankly the All Star Game) this is fine. I suspect that minor league fans are not particularly interested in staying until midnight for an 18 inning game and it adds some artificial excitement that the little kids that make up a large part of minor league attendees probably enjoy.

If this ever gets even discussed for MLB I will tie everyone who is in favor of it to a stake and set it alight.


I hate, hate this rule in the minors, as well. I'd much rather play a fixed number of extra innings, and then have a tie. I've been to about a dozen minor league games this year, and I've seen more extra runners than games.

There's another thread on this same game, which I submitted which can probably merged here, this has more tags, although no tags for the MLB teams.

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