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Friday, April 04, 2014

Tardy Yasiel Puig scratched from Dodgers’ home opener

He doesn’t feel tardy…

Yasiel Puig was scratched from the starting lineup after arriving late for the Los Angeles Dodgers’ home opener on Friday.

The rest of the team was already on the field stretching before batting practice while Puig was getting dressed in the clubhouse. He had been slated to start in right field for the afternoon game against the San Francisco Giants.

Instead, Matt Kemp replaced Puig after manager Don Mattingly had earlier said Kemp wouldn’t start. Kemp came off the disabled list on Friday, and according to Mattingly, Kemp was upset when initially told that he wasn’t in the lineup…

Mattingly didn’t speak with reporters after the lineup change was posted Friday.

The District Attorney Posted: April 04, 2014 at 05:52 PM | 50 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. thetailor Posted: April 04, 2014 at 05:57 PM (#4679587)
Ugh, this guy.
   2. Joey B. "disrespects the A" Posted: April 04, 2014 at 06:31 PM (#4679613)
Will Grand Wizard Don Mattingly's virulent anti-Cuban racism never end?
   3. Bruce Markusen Posted: April 04, 2014 at 06:42 PM (#4679617)
I know that there will be the inevitable Puig defenders here, but showing up late is almost always a bad sign, particularly when it happens more than once.
   4. Monty Predicts a Padres-Mariners WS in 2016 Posted: April 04, 2014 at 06:51 PM (#4679623)
I know that there will be the inevitable Puig defenders here, but showing up late is almost always a bad sign, particularly when it happens more than once.


Yeah, I want to be a Puig defender, but...you couldn't be there on time for the home opener? Really?
   5. Sleepy supports unauthorized rambling Posted: April 04, 2014 at 06:56 PM (#4679625)
In a rare show of solidarity, the rest of the dodger players took the first couple of innings of the game off in protest.
   6. depletion Posted: April 04, 2014 at 07:17 PM (#4679635)
Nothing says "I don't care about you", quite like showing up late.
   7. The Yankee Clapper Posted: April 04, 2014 at 07:24 PM (#4679639)
Must still be on Australian time.
   8. JRVJ Posted: April 04, 2014 at 07:33 PM (#4679643)
Calcaterra had something on this (plus some funny Tweets). To paraphrase: "Puig, hermanito, throw us a bone here and be on time, Ok?"
   9. Gold Star - just Gold Star Posted: April 04, 2014 at 08:28 PM (#4679667)
No defending this one.
   10. Pasta-diving Jeter (jmac66) Posted: April 04, 2014 at 08:55 PM (#4679677)
No defending this one.

he could pull a Pasqual Perez and claim he was lost, except there's no beltway around LA
   11. pthomas Posted: April 04, 2014 at 10:12 PM (#4679713)
Milton Bradley II
   12. Ron J2 Posted: April 04, 2014 at 10:27 PM (#4679718)
#9 And I honestly doubt you'll find anybody defending Puig now. I've been critical of the way Mattingly has handled Puig in the past but not this time.
   13. Infinite Joost (Voxter) Posted: April 04, 2014 at 10:48 PM (#4679724)
Milton Bradley wasn't lazy or irresponsible. He was just psychotic.
   14. BeanoCook Posted: April 04, 2014 at 11:03 PM (#4679736)
Bradley didn't believe in dinosaurs....did Puig weigh in on them too?
   15. Pops Freshenmeyer Posted: April 04, 2014 at 11:08 PM (#4679740)
Bradley didn't believe in dinosaurs....did Puig weigh in on them too?

You're thinking of that other psycho, Carl Everett.
   16. madvillain Posted: April 04, 2014 at 11:09 PM (#4679741)

Bradley didn't believe in dinosaurs....did Puig weigh in on them too?


That was actually "Jurassic" Carl Everett...
   17. boteman is not here 'til October Posted: April 04, 2014 at 11:51 PM (#4679762)
¡Buenos tardes!
   18. Gonfalon Bubble Posted: April 05, 2014 at 12:23 AM (#4679774)
That'll do, Puig. That'll do.
   19. Tulo's Fishy Mullet (mrams) Posted: April 05, 2014 at 01:37 AM (#4679784)
Didn't Jose Mercedes flat out miss the starting time of his scheduled start for Milwaukee? I'm pretty sure this happened.
   20. Rafael Bellylard: Built like a Panda. Posted: April 05, 2014 at 01:56 AM (#4679788)
If Kemp hits, will the Dodgers give Puig a "time out" and sit him in the corner?

The corner being Albuquerque.
   21. steagles Posted: April 05, 2014 at 02:20 AM (#4679791)
what's the carrot? pulling him from the lineup is obviously the stick, but since that has consistently failed to have the desired effect on puig, are they doing anything else to get him in line?

and how far are they willing to go with the stick? it seems like mattingly is trying to position himself as a strongman, that he will not allow himself to be crossed, but every time there's a leaked quote about puig and every time he has to discipline him, it seems like his position gets weaker and weaker specifically because he isn't capable of controlling his clubhouse and keeping discipline in house.

granted that it's a different situation, but the reason desean jackson being cut by the eagles came completely out of left field is because chip kelly didn't let anything leak out of the locker room during the season. by keeping things in house, chip kelly got maximum production out of desean jackosn on the field turning what started out as a rebuilding year into a playoff berth and NFC east title.

since mattingly's choice of making everything puig does into a public issue is in stark contrast to the desean jackson situation, what i would ask is whether mattingly thinks he's more or less likely to coax on-field excellence from his player by constantly trashing and/or embarrassing him in the first week of the season.
   22. Sunday silence Posted: April 05, 2014 at 02:27 AM (#4679792)
Its hard to fault Mattingly for benching him for being late; what did you expect for a player being late to a game? That's pretty much expected in MLB.

Complaining that benching someone is making it a "public issue" is just an odd way to look at it. If your point is more about the other stuff, then maybe you're right, I cant remeber how much they made it into a public issue. And its also possible a lot more of it was private.

I just dont see what happened today as making it a public issue.
   23. Robert in Manhattan Beach Posted: April 05, 2014 at 03:25 AM (#4679801)
He showed up at 1:20 for a 4:10 game and was apologetic. I think it will pass. It seems the weird start time messed him up.

"He felt bad he wasn't here, and I believe that," Mattingly said. "He's a good kid. Does he have to grow up and get better? Yeah, but there's a lot of guys like that."

   24. McCoy Posted: April 05, 2014 at 07:53 AM (#4679818)
Yes. Clearly no one can defend Puig now that he had the gall to show up 3 hours before a game. Bastard.
   25. shoewizard Posted: April 05, 2014 at 08:21 AM (#4679822)
He must be quite the arsehole for his team to treat him this way....but if he is just young brash and stupid instead of mentally ill, then I say trade him to the D Backs for AJ Pollock and JJ Putz ;)

Seriously, how long is it before they trade him at a drastically reduce market value ?
   26. JE (Jason) Posted: April 05, 2014 at 08:56 AM (#4679828)
He showed up at 1:20 for a 4:10 game and was apologetic.

While working on Capitol Hill, I don't think I ever got punished for showing up to work nearly three hours early.

EDIT: Coke to McCoy.
   27. shoewizard Posted: April 05, 2014 at 09:03 AM (#4679830)
work doesn't start at game time.

Thats still late.
   28. The Clarence Thomas of BBTF (scott) Posted: April 05, 2014 at 09:03 AM (#4679831)
While working on Capitol Hill, I don't think I ever got punished for showing up to work nearly three hours early.


Eh, players are expected to be at the park well before games begin. Being late for the game prep is actually unacceptable, unlike several of the previous complaints about Puig. A single day lineup scratch is perfectly normal discipline for this.
   29. JE (Jason) Posted: April 05, 2014 at 09:46 AM (#4679842)
Eh, players are expected to be at the park well before games begin. Being late for the game prep is actually unacceptable, unlike several of the previous complaints about Puig. A single day lineup scratch is perfectly normal discipline for this.

I was joking. (Kind of.)

Anyway, the article doesn't say whether Puig was five minutes late to "game prep" or forty-five. I don't mind him getting benched for one game but some here are treating this as a borderline hanging offense based on limited info.
   30. GregD Posted: April 05, 2014 at 11:07 AM (#4679866)
Anyway, the article doesn't say whether Puig was five minutes late to "game prep" or forty-five. I don't mind him getting benched for one game but some here are treating this as a borderline hanging offense based on limited info.
Good point. Is there a single expected pregame arrival across MLB? Part of the contract? Or can teams vary?

I agree that anyone who misses the time--even by a minute--should be punished appropriately, which seems like a benching.

There's a big difference beyond that between somebody rolling in five minutes late and someone missing the whole prep.
   31. Bruce Markusen Posted: April 05, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4679873)
Well, it took 24 posts before a defense of Puig showed up. Longer than I thought.

Players have an assigned time to be at the ballpark for each game. It's not nebulous, it's defined. The Dodgers were told to be at the park at 9:40 am. Puig showed up at 10:00 am. So he was 20 minutes late, not five. If I showed up 20 minutes late for my job without notifying my boss (or without having a legitimate excuse, such as a car accident), I would hear at least something about it.

Jason, it's not a borderline hanging offense, but when you have a track record like Puig (and it's a long track record for a guy with a short career), you don't tend to receive the benefit of the doubt anymore.
   32. ursus arctos Posted: April 05, 2014 at 11:23 AM (#4679874)
According to reports, the Dodgers send every player a text with time to report the night before the game. Puig was reportedly at the ballpark when the team began their on field stretching at 9:40, but didn't join them until about 45 minutes later. That strikes me as a long time for someone who is late to get dressed and on the field.

Puig reportedly told people that he thought the game started at 2, rather than 1, but that doesn't account for the text.

Puig clearly screwed up here, and being benched for a game is a perfectly reasonable response, but the whole "Puig will destroy the Dodgers' chemistry" being pushed by several in the LA media still strikes me as seriously overwrought.
   33. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: April 05, 2014 at 11:31 AM (#4679877)
Turns out Puig was just trying to burnish his image with the fans by hitching a ride with one of them to the ballpark.
   34. Joyful Calculus Instructor Posted: April 05, 2014 at 11:53 AM (#4679883)
[33] Considering his record, that would be better than him driving himself.
   35. base ball chick Posted: April 05, 2014 at 12:33 PM (#4679900)
I get benching a player for being late, unless he is your supahstah, like hanley Ramirez was with the marlins. I know of a couple of Astros players who used to show up late but it didn't never get into the media

the quantity of real hate streaming at puig, I don't get the - he needs to be severely humiliated - thing. it is going WAYYYYY beyond normal. destroying the TEAM? the reason that the dodgers will lose everything???

the last time the LA media (and everyone else) attacked someone with the dodgers Organization with this intensity of hate, it was paul depodesta, but he had acne. I guess this means he used roids or went to college or something.

sounds to me like the team actually needs to get puig evaluated for ADD. unless, of course, that will be used by the media to point out how EVVVVULLLL puig really is to have a brain disfunction to excuse going on a PED
   36. Morton's Fork Posted: April 05, 2014 at 12:40 PM (#4679901)
TARDY: Time And Relative Dimension for Yasiel
   37. Swedish Chef Posted: April 05, 2014 at 12:42 PM (#4679903)
the last time the LA media (and everyone else) attacked someone with the dodgers Organization with this intensity of hate

Kemp used to get a lot of #### from Plascke and ilk. And Larry Bowa sniped at him from inside the org.
   38. Bhaakon Posted: April 05, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4679905)
what's the carrot? pulling him from the lineup is obviously the stick, but since that has consistently failed to have the desired effect on puig, are they doing anything else to get him in line?


Well that's the problem, isn't it? He can't be promoted, because there's no level above MLB, he's already a starter, so additional playing time is off the table, and he's already received his first big contract. MLB and the Union have negotiated a system in which there is no carrot that a team can offer beyond those three, and it's worked fine because most players are strongly self-motivating. Puig, for whatever reason, doesn't seem to be (given what he's already accomplished, escaping Cuba and becoming a multi-millionaire, I can see how achieving MLB greatness might be something of an afterthought).
   39. Knock on any Iorg Posted: April 05, 2014 at 01:41 PM (#4679931)
but the whole "Puig will destroy the Dodgers' chemistry" being pushed by several in the LA media

Ahhh yes. The very font of reason and level headed opinion.
   40. base ball chick Posted: April 05, 2014 at 01:41 PM (#4679932)
Swedish
yeah, I remember that about kemp. he was a Bad Guy because he wanted to play. or showed enthusiasm or something.
Proven Veterans luis gonzqlez and that shtthead jeff kent did a lot of grousing to the eager media ears about how kemp wasn't umble enough or something

but he didn't get it near as bad as puig is

who is The Example of How Bad The World Is These Days. or something. bout the only thing the media hasn't thrown at him is roid accusations
   41. bfan Posted: April 05, 2014 at 02:35 PM (#4679952)
While working on Capitol Hill, I don't think I ever got punished for showing up to work nearly three hours early.


I hope your understanding of government is better than your understanding of how professional athletes prepare for games and to achieve excellence, but seeing how government works, maybe not.
   42. valuearbitrageur Posted: April 05, 2014 at 02:44 PM (#4679957)
and how far are they willing to go with the stick?


Trade this POS to some crappy team/organization/town where they tolerate diva behavior and only care about accumulating superstars, I suggest shipping him to the LA Dodgers.
   43. bobm Posted: April 05, 2014 at 03:22 PM (#4679980)
Unless he misremembered, Roger Clemens was en route to Fenway Park to pitch against the Mariners on April 29, 1986, when his car got stuck in traffic on Storrow Drive. Clemens said he went to the trunk to get his sneakers, prepared to run the two miles to the park. A cop, thinking the car had broken down, stopped, recognized Clemens and blue-lighted him to Fenway. He made it in the nick of time, had to persuade Manager John McNamara to let him pitch, then struck out a major league-record 20 batters.

The Mets’ Ramon Castro showed up late to a series finale in San Diego [in 2008] because he said he overslept. He said he looked at the Mets’ pocket schedule and saw a 4:05 p.m. start time and figured he could sleep late. But it was 4:05 Eastern. The team had been on the West Coast for a week.


http://www.baseballthinkfactory.org/newsstand/discussion/nyt_players_who_couldnt_get_to_the_game_on_time
   44. The District Attorney Posted: April 05, 2014 at 03:25 PM (#4679982)
how far are [the Dodgers] willing to go with the stick?
The Dodgers do happen to be in the rare position of having four very good outfielders (not even mentioning Scott Van Slyke, whom I actually think could start for a lot of other teams). Now, Puig is at worst the second-best of them, so you would still hurt the team on the field if you benched him. But, due to the quality of the alternatives, you wouldn't kill the team's chances... and if it straightened out Puig (that's of course the doozy), the tradeoff might be worthwhile. So that is an option Mattingly does have, IMO.

Returning to this instance... although I have never seen anything to recommend Don Mattingly as a manager other than that he's a nice guy, he certainly didn't do anything wrong here. If you're late, you don't get to start that game. That would be true whether it was Yasiel Puig or Tim Fedorowicz, or whatever the hell that guy's name is. Then that's the end of it, and if you're on time to the next game, you can start.

Mattingly just has to be aware that, as mentioned, apparently the LA media has to always have a Dodger who is the villain of the team. The fact that Puig is legitimately ####### up pretty regularly will make it tempting for Mattingly to throw Puig to the vultures... but he can't do that. He has to do his part to keep them off him, and to address the underlying problems.
   45. shoewizard Posted: April 05, 2014 at 07:30 PM (#4680095)
Lead off today's game, 1 for 4, 3 LOB, and of course.....Pickoff/Caught stealing after his lone hit. LOL.
   46. Darkness and the howling fantods Posted: April 05, 2014 at 07:47 PM (#4680102)
And he just forgot how many outs there were. No harm done though.
   47. Knock on any Iorg Posted: April 06, 2014 at 03:36 AM (#4680187)
If you're late, you don't get to start that game. That would be true whether it was Yasiel Puig or Tim Fedorowicz, or whatever the hell that guy's name is. Then that's the end of it

Uh, not in modern America. Now after you serve your penance to society you get placed on a registry. Gotta keep that scarlet letter visible where all can see it.
   48. Bhaakon Posted: April 06, 2014 at 03:50 AM (#4680188)
Uh, not in modern America. Now after you serve your penance to society you get placed on a registry. Gotta keep that scarlet letter visible where all can see it.


That's only for people who fail to publicly apologize for their underlying alcohol/drug/emotional/exhaustion issues and spend a few weeks in an expensive rehab clinic/beach resort.
   49. 'Spos Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:29 AM (#4680207)
Can't wait to see him in Tampa...
   50. bunyon Posted: April 06, 2014 at 08:44 AM (#4680208)
That story about Clemens above - what a world it was before cell phones.

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