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Wednesday, August 20, 2014

Tarp troubles lead to long delay, shortened game

Can’t say I blame the Giants and their fans for being frustrated by this…

Spahn Insane Posted: August 20, 2014 at 10:10 AM | 11 comment(s) Login to Bookmark
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   1. Spahn Insane Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:39 PM (#4775422)
Since the thread on the Giants' plan to protest the game is more up to date and encapsulates everything covered in this post, please move any discussion to that thread. Thanks.
   2. McCoy Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:43 PM (#4775433)
Or feel free to talk about General Hancock's Civil War strategies in this thread. Either one will do.
   3. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:49 PM (#4775446)
Or feel free to talk about General Hancock's Civil War strategies in this thread. Either one will do.

Wow, you've stumped me on a military history topic. Well done.

I know of Gen. Hancock by name (Corps commander at Gettysburgh, right?), but couldn't give even one detail of his activities.
   4. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:50 PM (#4775448)
Hancock (assuming he means Winfield Scott) is usually given kudos for his development of the Anaconda Plan, but the plan as he laid it out called for no land offensive on the Confederacy at all; rather, a blockade that would, over time, wear down the rebels and convince them to rejoin the Union.

With hindsight, that sounds like a terrible strategy. Taking down the Confederacy was always going to require overland offensives combined with landings on the coast to tighten the blockade. The blockade was a useful element of overall strategy, but would never be a war-winning one.
   5. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:52 PM (#4775450)
SdeB: I think you're confusing Winfield Scott Hancock with the man he was named after.
   6. snapper (history's 42nd greatest monster) Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:53 PM (#4775453)
SdeB: I think you're confusing Winfield Scott Hancock with the man he was named after.

Yeah, Winfield Scott is a different dude. I know about him. Also commanded the army that took Mexico City in the Mexican-American War.
   7. PASTE Thinks This Trout Kid Might Be OK (Zeth) Posted: August 20, 2014 at 12:57 PM (#4775461)
Totality of my knowledge of Winfield Scott Hancock:

1. Union general, one of the best respected officers in the Union Army.
2. (Probably related to 1) Along with his friend John Reynolds, didn't want anything to do with command of the army due to constant interference from Washington.
3. Friendship with Confederate general Lewis Armistead played up for maximum angst value in the novel Killer Angels and its movie adaptation.
4. Wounded at Gettysburg (but then, who wasn't?), where his corps was prominently involved in massacring Longstreet's patchwork corps. (I would say "defending against" but that would be true only to the extent a man would have to defend himself against an angry toddler.)
5. Nominated for president by the Democrats in 1880, lost to James Garfield.
   8. McCoy Posted: August 20, 2014 at 01:15 PM (#4775484)
Actually I was thinking of Halleck when I wrote the post but for some reason put the guy in charge during Gettysburg.

As for Winfield Scott it was a sound plan but of course as you say the Union would need to do more to win the war than just blockade.
   9. Slivers of Maranville descends into chaos (SdeB) Posted: August 20, 2014 at 01:31 PM (#4775503)
SdeB: I think you're confusing Winfield Scott Hancock with the man he was named after.


I'm not, but I thought McCoy might have been.
   10. Spahn Insane Posted: August 20, 2014 at 01:57 PM (#4775524)
This site never ceases to surprise.
   11. McCoy Posted: August 20, 2014 at 02:03 PM (#4775528)
I don't think I've read a Civil War book since The Grand Design, which was a great book. Tried to get into The Sleepwalkers which is about the cause of WWI but it appears the entire book is about the Balkans and I just do not have the interest in the region nor to read a long book about a bunch of people that basically come off as less intelligent Stalins. Currently trying to read Titan which is about John D Rockefeller and slogging through his childhood and teenage years has been a challenge. Let's just say I'm glad I wasn't a child of the early to mid 19th century.

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